Is Planned Hamburger more important than the entire good of America?

[8manpick]

Does anyone actually oppose selling non-living body parts (fetuses, stillborn babies, old people, whatever) for medical research?  If so, why?

According to my boss, they harvested a bunch of stem cells or whatever about 35 years ago and they have been growing (multiplying) these cells in labs since then, so there should be no need to harvest more fetal tissue.

What if lab grown isn't as good?

[8manpick]

Like why do people prefer tossing this ex-fetus meat in an incinerator? It just seems strange to me

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

the "for profit" part seems to be what ksuw disapproves of the most. has there been any evidence of this? oh and covering the S&H doesn't count as profit

MoCat, have you ever sold something on ebay, or listened to an infomercial? Call in the next 5 minutes and we'll double you order of baby heads for FREE* Just pay separate shipping and handling. It's all a matter of semantics. Fees for shipping, handling, processing, etc. are a great way to make money, or as one Planned Parenthood exec said, "do a little better than break even."

Another comment was even more telling:

So Heather, a Novogenix person would come to the site, and our staff would sign the patients up, and get consent. Heather would look at the tissue and take what she required, so logistically it was very easy for us, we didn’t have to do anything. There was compensation for this, and there was discussion if that was legal, they have been paying by the case, and there was some discussion about do we, in a different way, or I don’t know what you’re used to doing, how you’re used to doing compensation.

Planned Parenthood didn't have to do anything. You know, except for palm the cash.

In fact, this is routinely what Planned Parenthood does - performing abortions in one room while the third-party tissue harvesters are in the very next room sifting through the remains. And yet, Planned Parenthood still gets their cut - I guess $500 million a year just isn't enough.

so it is just the S&H then? i mean you made it sound like they were charging an arm and a leg for arms and legs

Tell me mocat, what's the shipping and handling involved in transporting a dead baby from one room to another? Planned Parenthood would tell you that'll be $50-$100. It's not about the money, after all. I mean, we like to a little better break even, but it's totally not about the money.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Does anyone actually oppose selling non-living body parts (fetuses, stillborn babies, old people, whatever) for medical research?  If so, why?

According to my boss, they harvested a bunch of stem cells or whatever about 35 years ago and they have been growing (multiplying) these cells in labs since then, so there should be no need to harvest more fetal tissue.

If that were true, nobody would be buying the organs.

[sys]

Tell me mocat, what's the shipping and handling involved in transporting a dead baby from one room to another?

overhead.

[michigancat]

$50-100 seems like entirely reasonable S&H charges for fetal tissue.

Is this whole thing really about PP getting $50-100 each time they ship fetal tissue? gee whiz

[Dugout DickStone]

why would the republicans make such huge deal when they cant win it?

[star seed 7]

why would the republicans make such huge deal when they cant win it?

They love the crap out of losing, goes with the whole persecution complex thing

[mocat]

$50-100 seems like entirely reasonable S&H charges for fetal tissue.

Is this whole thing really about PP getting $50-100 each time they ship fetal tissue? gee whiz

yes, and yes.

[puniraptor]

is it correct to say there would be no controversy here if the fetal parts where thrown in the trash or flushed down the toilet instead of being [sold] for medical research?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

is it correct to say there would be no controversy here if the fetal parts where thrown in the trash or flushed down the toilet instead of being [sold] for medical research?

There's still the little problem of giving $500mil on tax dollars per year to an abortion provider...

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

$50-100 seems like entirely reasonable S&H charges for fetal tissue.

Is this whole thing really about PP getting $50-100 each time they ship fetal tissue? gee whiz

You mean "shipping" from one room to the next?

[mocat]

is it correct to say there would be no controversy here if the fetal parts where thrown in the trash or flushed down the toilet instead of being [sold] for medical research?

There's still the little problem of giving $500mil on tax dollars per year to an abortion provider...

we can debate or not whether that money is used on abortions forever, but my question is PP receiving federal $ a new thing, or already a thing?

[mocat]

$50-100 seems like entirely reasonable S&H charges for fetal tissue.

Is this whole thing really about PP getting $50-100 each time they ship fetal tissue? gee whiz

You mean "shipping" from one room to the next?

what the eff does H stand for?

[puniraptor]

is it correct to say there would be no controversy here if the fetal parts where thrown in the trash or flushed down the toilet instead of being [sold] for medical research?

There's still the little problem of giving $500mil on tax dollars per year to an abortion provider...

but that was true before {THE TAPES}.

[mocat]

$50-100 seems like entirely reasonable S&H charges for fetal tissue.

Is this whole thing really about PP getting $50-100 each time they ship fetal tissue? gee whiz

You mean "shipping" from one room to the next?

what the eff does H stand for?

^ the ultimate question for all fans of Tool

[0.42]

I just wanna go back to this real quick

Rick Santorum sums it up perfectly

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

$50-100 seems like entirely reasonable S&H charges for fetal tissue.

Is this whole thing really about PP getting $50-100 each time they ship fetal tissue? gee whiz

You mean "shipping" from one room to the next?

what the eff does H stand for?

[mocat]

$50-100 seems like entirely reasonable S&H charges for fetal tissue.

Is this whole thing really about PP getting $50-100 each time they ship fetal tissue? gee whiz

You mean "shipping" from one room to the next?

what the eff does H stand for?

that was a just for fun (JFF) question.

is it correct to say there would be no controversy here if the fetal parts where thrown in the trash or flushed down the toilet instead of being [sold] for medical research?

There's still the little problem of giving $500mil on tax dollars per year to an abortion provider...

we can debate or not whether that money is used on abortions forever, but my question is PP receiving federal $ a new thing, or already a thing?

this was a for real question

[Tobias]

what the eff does H stand for?

^ the ultimate question for all fans of Tool

[puniraptor]

Would you be willing to doom your own eternal soul to hell in exchange for defending the lives of the unborn?

[mocat]

is it correct to say there would be no controversy here if the fetal parts where thrown in the trash or flushed down the toilet instead of being [sold] for medical research?

There's still the little problem of giving $500mil on tax dollars per year to an abortion provider...

is PP receiving federal $ a new thing, or already a thing?

ksuw refuses to answer this one

[Asteriskhead]

is it correct to say there would be no controversy here if the fetal parts where thrown in the trash or flushed down the toilet instead of being [sold] for medical research?

There's still the little problem of giving $500mil on tax dollars per year to an abortion provider...

is PP receiving federal $ a new thing, or already a thing?

ksuw refuses to answer this one

Are you surprised?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

is it correct to say there would be no controversy here if the fetal parts where thrown in the trash or flushed down the toilet instead of being [sold] for medical research?

There's still the little problem of giving $500mil on tax dollars per year to an abortion provider...

is PP receiving federal $ a new thing, or already a thing?

ksuw refuses to answer this one

Are you surprised?

I thought that was a rhetorical question. Already a thing.

[mocat]

so if things stay the same as they already are, pubs want a shutdown, got it. thanks.