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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2015, 10:10:33 AM »
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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2015, 10:13:41 AM »
How is this even an issue?  A non-state, non-federal, non-municipal flag doesn't belong on a state, municipal, or federal facility.  This isn't about making anything illegal.  No one's free speech is being violated.  No one's personal use of the flag is even at issue.  I am all for QW and SS going on with the flying of the flag at their house and not getting their confederate flag tats covered up. 

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #52 on: July 16, 2015, 10:17:01 AM »
What about a flag wire a Christian symbol.

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #53 on: July 16, 2015, 10:18:23 AM »
IMO, not unless that symbol was incorporated into the state, fed, or municipal flag design. 

I mean, this isn't hard.  If it isn't the state, fed, or municipal flag, it just should be there, imo.

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #54 on: July 16, 2015, 11:24:39 AM »
I just don't think it's fair to assume people with them are racist. I think that's hypocritical. They shouldn't be flying at government buildings though. Everyone just needs to light one up and stop getting offended so easily.
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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #55 on: July 16, 2015, 11:27:03 AM »
Racist or just incredibly ignorant.  Pick your poison.
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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #56 on: July 16, 2015, 11:32:05 AM »
I just don't think it's fair to assume people with them are racist. I think that's hypocritical. They shouldn't be flying at government buildings though. Everyone just needs to light one up and stop getting offended so easily.

Do you assume people with swastika tattoos are racist?

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #57 on: July 16, 2015, 11:34:34 AM »
I just don't think it's fair to assume people with them are racist. I think that's hypocritical. They shouldn't be flying at government buildings though. Everyone just needs to light one up and stop getting offended so easily.

Everyone I knew in Kansas who openly flew a confederate flag were/are pretty racist.  Each one of them came from small towns/farms in Kansas with their families settling in Kansas generations ago.  They have no connection to the south.  I'm not saying everyone who has them are racist, but since the majority of the owners I have met are racist my perception of the flag is negative.
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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #58 on: July 16, 2015, 11:35:10 AM »
I just don't think it's fair to assume people with them are racist. I think that's hypocritical. They shouldn't be flying at government buildings though. Everyone just needs to light one up and stop getting offended so easily.

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #59 on: July 16, 2015, 11:39:49 AM »
I really just think it represents what the south wanted, which was/is smaller government.

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2015, 11:40:25 AM »
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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2015, 11:59:36 AM »

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2015, 12:07:45 PM »
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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2015, 12:13:32 PM »
My mom is from the west coast, my dad is from Tennessee so I think that I'm just not as judgemental as the average kansan
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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2015, 12:15:06 PM »
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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2015, 12:22:51 PM »

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2015, 01:27:01 PM »
I just don't think it's fair to assume people with them are racist. I think that's hypocritical. They shouldn't be flying at government buildings though. Everyone just needs to light one up and stop getting offended so easily.

I think it's very fair to assume they are all racist
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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2015, 01:29:56 PM »
yes i agree that it is fair. regardless of what they think it stands for, they arent dumb enough to not know what everyone else thinks it stands for.

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2015, 01:33:37 PM »
"I just like the way the N word rolls off my tongue."   <----not racist though.

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2015, 01:38:46 PM »
I just don't think it's fair to assume people with them are racist. I think that's hypocritical. They shouldn't be flying at government buildings though. Everyone just needs to light one up and stop getting offended so easily.

It is a lesson in empathy. The origin and initial meaning of the flag don't really matter in this context. What matters is that to a significant portion of people the flag does indeed represent not just "racism" the word, but — and to some actual memories — of oppression, violence and murder. When the Little Rock Nine started going to school with the white kids the flag was there in the crowd as protestors hurled insults and curses. When George Wallace said "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever," the flag was there in the hands of those cheering him on. To this day when klansmen walk down city streets, there you'll see the flag.

So when you tell me that it's really just about Southern Pride or small-government values, or whatever else it doesn't really carry water, because to a significant number of people, for a very real and legitimate reason, it means a hell of a lot more than that.

Putting yourself in someone else's shoes when you make a choice is important, especially when those shoes have been a lot less comfortable than your own. Once you do that it makes it difficult to see whatever it is you're debating over so trivially.
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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2015, 02:08:13 PM »
Seriously though....I fear that winters is making a terrible choice

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2015, 02:37:00 PM »
Seriously though....I fear that winters is making a terrible choice

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #72 on: July 16, 2015, 02:48:12 PM »
Seriously though....I fear that winters is making a terrible choice

She isn't serious.  She said her dad was from Tennessee as some example of open mindedness

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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #73 on: July 16, 2015, 02:51:08 PM »
Seriously though....I fear that winters is making a terrible choice

She isn't serious.  She said her dad was from Tennessee as some example of open mindedness

If true, that makes more sense.  I thought it was pretty strange to volunteer that information.
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Re: The Confederate flag
« Reply #74 on: July 16, 2015, 02:51:51 PM »
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