Author Topic: American Exceptionalism (Read 33501 times)

michigancat · « **Reply #150 on:** June 24, 2015, 05:10:09 PM »

I don't think "American Exceptionalism" is even something you agree with or don't. It's vaguely defined, and even when you try to narrow it down to a somewhat specific definition there are some ways I would agree with it and others I wouldn't. Like, our rise in stature, wealth, and power in the first half of the century was absolutely unprecedented and "exceptional", but that doesn't mean that American people or the American nation is inherently better than others.

puniraptor · « **Reply #151 on:** June 24, 2015, 05:14:35 PM »

american exceptionalism means definitely not bowing to the saudi king or ever apologizing for blowing people up by accident.

sys · « **Reply #152 on:** June 24, 2015, 05:16:43 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on June 24, 2015, 05:10:09 PM

our rise in stature, wealth, and power in the first half of the century was absolutely unprecedented

alexander's macedonia, rome, mongolian horde, ottoman turks, hapsburg empires (including new world), napoleonic france, england's british empire.

that's in like 5 seconds. there's prolly 10x more.

michigancat · « **Reply #153 on:** June 24, 2015, 05:17:36 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 24, 2015, 05:16:43 PM

Quote from: michigancat on June 24, 2015, 05:10:09 PM
our rise in stature, wealth, and power in the first half of the century was absolutely unprecedented

alexander's macedonia, rome, mongolian horde, ottoman turks, hapsburg empires (including new world), napoleonic france, england's british empire.

that's in like 5 seconds. there's prolly 10x more.

well crap

sys · « **Reply #154 on:** June 24, 2015, 05:20:15 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on June 24, 2015, 05:17:36 PM

well crap

american exceptionalism is dead!

chum1 · « **Reply #155 on:** June 24, 2015, 06:02:37 PM »

Too bad all of those places were forces for evil.

0.42 · « **Reply #156 on:** June 24, 2015, 06:39:57 PM »

the beach boys were pretty good

slobber · « **Reply #157 on:** June 24, 2015, 07:12:00 PM »

I had a company dinner this evening. Sat next to a Kiwi and a Chinamen. We discussed American Exceptionalism. They said it is real and we are awesome.
#CASE CLOSED

Gonna win 'em all!

star seed 7 · « **Reply #158 on:** June 24, 2015, 07:19:49 PM »

chinamen isn't the prefered nomenclature

slobber · « **Reply #159 on:** June 24, 2015, 07:38:40 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on June 24, 2015, 07:19:49 PM

chinamen isn't the prefered nomenclature

so that's why he was giving me the stink eye

Gonna win 'em all!

michigancat · « **Reply #160 on:** June 24, 2015, 07:39:24 PM »

Kiwis were also pretty good to their indigenous people.

SleepFighter · « **Reply #161 on:** June 24, 2015, 07:50:58 PM »

Tanzanians think we are the crap. Except for Republicans. Those guys hate Republicans.

Seems like quite the pickle for the resident exceptionalists.

Asteriskhead · « **Reply #162 on:** June 24, 2015, 08:23:44 PM »

Quote from: slobber on June 24, 2015, 07:38:40 PM

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on June 24, 2015, 07:19:49 PM
chinamen isn't the prefered nomenclature
so that's why he was giving me the stink eye

Gonna win 'em all!

i refuse to believe that you didn't set that up.

wetwillie · « **Reply #163 on:** June 24, 2015, 08:30:37 PM »

Top reasons immigrants come to a country:

1. Track record of treating indiginous people well
2. Length of Average lifespan
3. Humanitarian aid per capita

Treatment of indiginous peoples

Spracne · « **Reply #164 on:** June 24, 2015, 09:03:35 PM »

Other than liberals (foreign and domestic) and extremists from outside the country, America pretty much has the whole world by the balls or vag. Seriously, almost everyone is like

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #165 on:** June 24, 2015, 09:25:50 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on June 24, 2015, 05:10:09 PM

I don't think "American Exceptionalism" is even something you agree with or don't. It's vaguely defined, and even when you try to narrow it down to a somewhat specific definition there are some ways I would agree with it and others I wouldn't. Like, our rise in stature, wealth, and power in the first half of the century was absolutely unprecedented and "exceptional", but that doesn't mean that American people or the American nation is inherently better than others.

Ok. I'll put you in the "no" column. That's ok.

Institutional Control · « **Reply #166 on:** June 24, 2015, 09:44:28 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on June 24, 2015, 07:19:49 PM

chinamen isn't the prefered nomenclature

Exactly, my dad would refer to them as Orientals..

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Cire · « **Reply #167 on:** June 24, 2015, 10:41:11 PM »

Jfc how old is your dad?

Cire · « **Reply #168 on:** June 24, 2015, 10:42:29 PM »

Let's list nation States throughout history that believed they were exceptional.

Cire · « **Reply #169 on:** June 24, 2015, 10:42:46 PM »

America

Cire · « **Reply #170 on:** June 24, 2015, 10:43:21 PM »

18th 19th century Britain

Spracne · « **Reply #171 on:** June 24, 2015, 10:44:30 PM »

How lucky do I feel to be a white man born in America? Exceptionally lucky.

Cire · « **Reply #172 on:** June 24, 2015, 10:44:42 PM »

Judea

Spracne · « **Reply #173 on:** June 24, 2015, 10:45:19 PM »

I mean, what are the chances of doubling up like that? John in a million?

Cire · « **Reply #174 on:** June 24, 2015, 10:46:08 PM »

Modern Israel