serious thread for asking actual sane republicans questions

[star seed 7]

wow, very sane.  thank you cf3 friend 

[Cartierfor3]

wow, very sane.  thank you cf3 friend 

[star seed 7]

wow, very sane.  thank you cf3 friend 

i just made a donation in your name to the human fund

[CNS]

I guess lib7 in the simplest terms, I value government preserving liberty more than government creating equality. I think preserving liberty is a more attainable goal, and creating equality is pretty tough in the real world. That would be a reason why I'm more likely to vote republican

I can agree w this, but also think:
1. A whole lot of liberty has been taken from us by conservatives after 9/11.
2. I think there has been a long history of insuring inequality and that something should be done to help level a playing field that has been out of level for so long and I think education is the answer/resolution.

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[Cartierfor3]

I guess lib7 in the simplest terms, I value government preserving liberty more than government creating equality. I think preserving liberty is a more attainable goal, and creating equality is pretty tough in the real world. That would be a reason why I'm more likely to vote republican

I can agree w this, but also think:
1. A whole lot of liberty has been taken from us by conservatives after 9/11.
2. I think there has been a long history of insuring inequality and that something should be done to help level a playing field that has been out of level for so long and I think education is the answer/resolution.

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1. No arguement
2. IMO education would be better with LESS governmental involvement, especially at the federal level. Like, has anything been worse than "no child left behind"?

[CNS]

Well, right now large cities have neighborhoods where minority populations were basically funneled to.  Most of these neighborhoods have high crime, high unemployment,  and bad schools.   A good example of a good start would be early ed for everyone in that area.

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[michigancat]

I guess lib7 in the simplest terms, I value government preserving liberty more than government creating equality. I think preserving liberty is a more attainable goal, and creating equality is pretty tough in the real world. That would be a reason why I'm more likely to vote republican

Good posts.

What about when the government creates the inequality because of restrictions on liberty they imposed on certain segments of the population? Does the government have a responsibility to right those wrongs?

Also, why can't you both preserve liberty and strive to create equality at the same time?

[Cartierfor3]

I guess lib7 in the simplest terms, I value government preserving liberty more than government creating equality. I think preserving liberty is a more attainable goal, and creating equality is pretty tough in the real world. That would be a reason why I'm more likely to vote republican

Good posts.

What about when the government creates the inequality because of restrictions on liberty they imposed on certain segments of the population? Does the government have a responsibility to right those wrongs?

Also, why can't you both preserve liberty and strive to create equality at the same time?

Yes, they should try and right the wrongs, but they do such as shitty job of it.

I think you inevitibly have to sacrifice some equality for liberty, or liberty for equality. You can value both, but IMO you can't value both equally.

[Dr Rick Daris]

I guess lib7 in the simplest terms, I value government preserving liberty more than government creating equality. I think preserving liberty is a more attainable goal, and creating equality is pretty tough in the real world. That would be a reason why I'm more likely to vote republican

Good posts.

What about when the government creates the inequality because of restrictions on liberty they imposed on certain segments of the population? Does the government have a responsibility to right those wrongs?

Also, why can't you both preserve liberty and strive to create equality at the same time?

Yes, they should try and right the wrongs, but they do such as shitty job of it.

I think you inevitibly have to sacrifice some equality for liberty, or liberty for equality. You can value both, but IMO you can't value both equally.

i guess i don't know what liberty and equality are because i think we should prob just shoot for booth. it's seriously one or the other? 

[Cartierfor3]

I dunno man. Its 12:11 AM. I promise I'll think more about all this and blog some tomorrow.

[chum1]

I think it's kind of a bullshit answer because there are liberties that Democrats care about more than Republicans and eauality issues that Rupublicans care about more than Democrats..

[Dr Rick Daris]

I think it's kind of a bullshit answer because there are liberties that Democrats care about more than Republicans and eauality issues that Rupublicans care about more than Democrats..

can you list the main ones? i dead seriously have no idea.

[star seed 7]

smoking weed, gay stuff - democrats
tax equality - pubs

[star seed 7]

i guess an unrestricted market could be viewed as equality?

[chum1]

I think it's kind of a bullshit answer because there are liberties that Democrats care about more than Republicans and eauality issues that Rupublicans care about more than Democrats..

can you list the main ones? i dead seriously have no idea?

I mean, you can just come up with a bunch of stuff like Republicans think that fetuses should be treated equally and Democrats think that on blacks aren't as free to become wealthy as whites on average. It's all just about how you characterize things.

[chum1]

Seven's examples are better than mine.

[michigancat]

smoking weed, gay stuff - democrats
tax equality - pubs

Guns for the right

[steve dave]

i've registered as a republican in most states where i've voted.  the libertarian wing of the party appeals to me, at least when aren't being idiots about monetary policy or pandering to tea partiers that think they're libertarians.

Same. I've been a registered republican since I was 18. I'm left socially and right fiscally though pretty moderate in each direction.

[slobber]

Hey guys, I love this thread. I have a busy week, but I'm gonna try to post something about me personally.
Appreciate the mainly civil discussion.
Just because you feel strongly about something doesn't mean you have to be mean to those that don't agree with you.


Gonna win 'em all!

[Asteriskhead]

A government's role is to ensure equity, not equality.

[steve dave]

sd = best mod

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Liberty is the removal of government impediments so that a person is free to prosper how they see fit, so long as they don't infringe upon others.

Equality is a misnomer and involves taking from one person and giving to another under the guise of righting a previous wrong.

[star seed 7]

Great modding sd

[CNS]

Liberty is the removal of government impediments so that a person is free to prosper how they see fit, so long as they don't infringe upon others.

Equality is a misnomer and involves taking from one person and giving to another under the guise of righting a previous wrong.

Thoughts on the barriers put in place by govt, in the past, to insure inequality in the not too distant past?  I mean, it seems the govt is already in the biz of effecting the equality of it's constituents, and has been for some time.   

[Asteriskhead]

I'm a registered republican who mostly votes against incumbents, which only serves to contribute to government's ineffectiveness, but you know, I'm really tired of my neighbors electing morons.