The Trump Candidacy

[sonofdaxjones]

Bernie the political animal betrays his rhetoric time and time and time again.

[nicname]

You gotta tell yourself what you gotta tell yourself.

Angry white men v. Angry neerdowells

Potato potato

The half dozen major issues Trump and Bern share the same rhetoric on plz.

[ednksu]

Bernie the political animal betrays his rhetoric time and time and time again.

List the half dozen rhetoric

Lets try this experiment.

[sonofdaxjones]

Portrays himself as a party rebel, yet votes party line the majority of the time.   Portrays himself as anti war yet has voted for war at every turn which has caused resignations from his staff.

[MakeItRain]

Bernie the political animal betrays his rhetoric time and time and time again.

List the half dozen rhetoric

Lets try this experiment.

Why do that? Dax and fsd weren't saying anything close to the same thing.

[catastrophe]

Portrays himself as a party rebel, yet votes party line the majority of the time.   Portrays himself as anti war yet has voted for war at every turn which has caused resignations from his staff.

I can think of one military engagement Bernie did not support. Your ignorance of it kind of undermines your entire point here.

[ednksu]

Bernie the political animal betrays his rhetoric time and time and time again.

List the half dozen rhetoric

Lets try this experiment.

Why do that? Dax and fsd weren't saying anything close to the same thing.

At the heart of the matter the test isn't exactly the same but instead tests how the radical right perceives a candidate, how they build their strawmen, and what the candidate is actually saying.  So at the base they are the same.  I believe candidate X says/does Y.  Okay show where examples of the incongruent positions, rhetoric to action etc. 

[ednksu]

Portrays himself as a party rebel, yet votes party line the majority of the time.   Portrays himself as anti war yet has voted for war at every turn which has caused resignations from his staff.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-iraq/

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-afghanistan/

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-privacy-and-digital-rights/

Wrong on Iraq, kinda wrong about Afghanistan, and wrong about the Patriot Act. 

Do you have any issues in particular or just talking points Dax?

[sonofdaxjones]

Kosovo-Yes

Afghanistan-Yes, voted for unilateral powers to the president to conduct war in Afghanistan.

Iraq- no, then voted to fund it.

Israel- yes to military occupation of Palestine.

Has given no indication he's against drone wars and has supported the ongoing military relationship with the theological regime of Saudi Arabia.

Supports a coalition military action in Syria. 

[michigancat]

Bernie's basically said he would continue drone strikes.

[catastrophe]

I don't think Bernie ever called himself a pacifist. He's just in favor of not wasting unnecessary resources and people in pointless conflicts. Moreso than any other major candidate. So many people talk about how what Bernie wants to do would cost too much but they don't give a crap about how much just about every other candidate would add to the deficit by increasing military presence worldwide.

[ednksu]

Kosovo-Yes

Afghanistan-Yes, voted for unilateral powers to the president to conduct war in Afghanistan.

Iraq- no, then voted to fund it.

Israel- yes to military occupation of Palestine.

Has given no indication he's against drone wars and has supported the ongoing military relationship with the theological regime of Saudi Arabia.

Supports a coalition military action in Syria.

As in the past, you've shown your willingness to distort the truth for your agenda.  Kosovo is yet another pint where you've shown a tenuous grasp of the facts and order of events.  Just because you support a resolution with broad support doesn't mean you're a war monger.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-nato/
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-israel-and-the-palestinians/

[chum1]

What's going on here? Conservatives don't like it when some conservatives are called dumb, so they respond by saying that some liberals are dumb, too?

[Dugout DickStone]

What's going on here? Conservatives don't like it when some conservatives are called dumb, so they respond by saying that some liberals are dumb, too?

Politics!

[sonofdaxjones]

The last place to look for the truth is on a candidates own website. 

[sonofdaxjones]

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-sanders-troubling-history-supporting-us-military-violence-abroad

http://theantimedia.org/bernie-sanders-elephant-in-the-room/

[sonofdaxjones]

Not "some" liberals, a lot of liberals including the pandering Bernie Sanders. 

[sonofdaxjones]

 http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/27/bernie-sanders-savior-or-seducer-of-the-anti-war-left/

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

What's going on here? Conservatives don't like it when some conservatives are called dumb, so they respond by saying that some liberals are dumb, too?

The Berners just found out they are as dumb or dumber than the trumpers, and they are not happy about it.

They are confused how this is possible, because they went to college!!!

[catastrophe]

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-sanders-troubling-history-supporting-us-military-violence-abroad

http://theantimedia.org/bernie-sanders-elephant-in-the-room/

These positions only seem controversial if you (incorrectly) believe Sanders portrays himself as a pacifist. The reason his votes on those engagements aren't talked about in the media is because they were all pretty damn popular choices; both at the time and in many circumstances even today.

[sonofdaxjones]

I don't believe he's a pacifist, it's just there's so many Bernie supporters who think he's a huge anti-war guy and he isn't.   In fact, he likes war, destabilization, occupation and regime change, likes it a lot. 

[michigancat]

I don't believe he's a pacifist, it's just there's so many Bernie supporters who think he's a huge anti-war guy and he isn't.   In fact, he likes war, destabilization, occupation and regime change, likes it a lot. 

Relative to most in the federal government, he's a huge anti-war guy. Who are some current senators that are more anti-war than him?

[sonofdaxjones]

I don't believe he's a pacifist, it's just there's so many Bernie supporters who think he's a huge anti-war guy and he isn't.   In fact, he likes war, destabilization, occupation and regime change, likes it a lot. 

Relative to most in the federal government, he's a huge anti-war guy. Who are some current senators that are more anti-war than him?

Don't know and are they running for President?   

[michigancat]

I don't believe he's a pacifist, it's just there's so many Bernie supporters who think he's a huge anti-war guy and he isn't.   In fact, he likes war, destabilization, occupation and regime change, likes it a lot. 

Relative to most in the federal government, he's a huge anti-war guy. Who are some current senators that are more anti-war than him?

Don't know and are they running for President?   

I don't believe he's a pacifist, it's just there's so many Bernie supporters who think he's a huge anti-war guy and he isn't.   In fact, he likes war, destabilization, occupation and regime change, likes it a lot. 

Relative to most in the federal government, he's a huge anti-war guy. Who are some current senators that are more anti-war than him?

Don't know and are they running for President?   

OK, relative to people running for president over the last, say, 20 years, who is more anti-war than him?

I mean it seems like it should be easy to rattle off a few names giving your tone.

[sonofdaxjones]

What has that got to do with anything cRusty?