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CNS · « **Reply #5275 on:** October 25, 2016, 06:29:34 PM »

Council on Foreign Relations site says 600k jobs lost due to NAFTA over that period, with 200k jobs directly tied to exports created annually since. Also, says the jobs created pay 15-20% more than the jobs lost

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CNS · « **Reply #5276 on:** October 25, 2016, 06:30:48 PM »

Fact check . Org says 20million new net jobs during Clinton's presidency, after NAFTA.

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CNS · « **Reply #5277 on:** October 25, 2016, 06:37:21 PM »

Same guy I initially mentioned said that NAFTA adds about $15B annually to our economy. Said the TPP will add in the neighborhood of over 3x that, iirc.

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Kat Kid · « **Reply #5278 on:** October 25, 2016, 06:39:24 PM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 25, 2016, 05:52:59 PM

Quote from: sys on October 25, 2016, 05:48:18 PM
i adore our fed.

The devalueing the currency part, too?

RUN AWAY INFLATION!

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Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #5279 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:28:29 PM »

Quote from: CNS on October 25, 2016, 06:37:21 PM

Same guy I initially mentioned said that NAFTA adds about $15B annually to our economy. Said the TPP will add in the neighborhood of over 3x that, iirc.

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$15B to a $16,000B economy isn't even a rounding error, but I'm glad some guy you listened to thinks its great.

Globally there's no question free trade is great global economic policy. What trump, obama, sanders and other Democrats advocate for are anti-free trade measures to protect jobs and industry, while claiming free trade only helps the rich (obama v. Romney major debate point).

I was just pointing out an asinine talking point.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #5280 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:30:28 PM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on October 25, 2016, 06:39:24 PM

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 25, 2016, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: sys on October 25, 2016, 05:48:18 PM
i adore our fed.

The devalueing the currency part, too?

RUN AWAY stagINFLATION! and dismal economic growth and employment

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Fify

steve dave · « **Reply #5281 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:30:32 PM »

FSD turning to defending brexit as a surrogate to defending trump and is a very great turn of events ITT.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #5282 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:32:03 PM »

'Teve 'Ave is obsessed with fsd. The rage is a bad look.

steve dave · « **Reply #5283 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:34:19 PM »

My "he's enraged" posts have hit home confirmation data point!

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #5284 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:38:43 PM »

He won't stop posting about me. Such enragement (sp?)

CNS · « **Reply #5285 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:39:44 PM »

Obama is the one setting up the TPP.

My point ITT is that trump is saying NAFTA is basically aids. I don't give a crap about the rounding error, but it obviously isn't negative on the jobs side or money side.

Now, back to deflecting how enraged you are at SD.

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steve dave · « **Reply #5286 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:43:20 PM »

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #5287 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:44:03 PM »

Obama mumped up the TPP and clinton abandoned it. Trump probably doesnt know what it is. The only people that support those types of deals don't have a candidate in the election.

CNS · « **Reply #5288 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:49:10 PM »

Glad to see that after your deflection, and through your rage at SD, you are able to agree with my point that started this in that trump doesn't know what he is talking about with trade.

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Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #5289 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:49:28 PM »

To circle back to the point, anyone that thinks countries who trade tens of billions of dollars of goods among one another are going to immediately stop because brexit or trump is a huge rough ridin' idiot, and I'll ridicule you for such an absurd position all day long.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #5290 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:51:39 PM »

Quote from: CNS on October 25, 2016, 07:49:10 PM

Glad to see that after your deflection, and through your rage at SD, you are able to agree with my point that started this in that trump doesn't know what he is talking about with trade.

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I can't agree with you, because everything you is either misguided or incoherent.

CNS · « **Reply #5291 on:** October 25, 2016, 07:52:41 PM »

You're the best, FSD.

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Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #5292 on:** October 25, 2016, 08:20:21 PM »

In a series of posts you said nafta was responsible for 200k new high paying jobs per year and $15B in additional annual economic activity (presumably transactional). Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? 200k pan handlers create more economic activity than that. Not to mention that would be in the neighborhood of 10% of all new jobs since. That's a ridiculous assertion.

You don't have the mental capacity to think, only regurgitate internet nonsense.

CNS · « **Reply #5293 on:** October 25, 2016, 08:35:08 PM »

I didn't say, high paying jobs. I said that source said those jobs earned 15-20% more than those lost. That doesn't equate to high paying, since most jobs lost were low paying jobs.

No crap the division doesn't equate to lights out numbers, however they are still not red.
As for job numbers, go find a source.

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chum1 · « **Reply #5294 on:** October 25, 2016, 08:44:28 PM »

sys · « **Reply #5295 on:** October 25, 2016, 09:16:46 PM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 25, 2016, 05:52:59 PM

Quote from: sys on October 25, 2016, 05:48:18 PM
i adore our fed.

The devalueing the currency part, too?

the dollar is super strong and consensus is that it will continue to strengthen near/medium term.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #5296 on:** October 25, 2016, 09:23:17 PM »

Just not as strong as the pound.

sys · « **Reply #5297 on:** October 25, 2016, 09:35:24 PM »

that's probably true. congratulations on finally getting a post right.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #5298 on:** October 26, 2016, 01:16:16 AM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on October 25, 2016, 11:45:52 AM

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Quote from: Cartierfor3 on October 25, 2016, 11:38:38 AM
lying about being a trump supporter was his whole premise re:polls so there you go.

his premise is that lots of people are embarrassed to be Trump supporters (like he is) but will vote for trump?

yeah. like in polls where you don't say your name I guess he's winning by like a million.

I live in a purple state that has a weird imbalance of national political influence. I say this because I have been polled a lot, never asked to give my name.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #5299 on:** October 26, 2016, 01:21:42 AM »

Quote from: stunted on October 25, 2016, 01:18:20 PM

Remember Brexit

When/Where do I remember the UK having the electoral college?