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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2015, 02:30:33 PM »
i'm gonna marry both of my cats (bosco and george)

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2015, 02:38:59 PM »
Lawyers would try for 4 person marriages.  The complicated divorces would be great billable hours

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2015, 02:40:16 PM »
i'm gonna marry both of my cats (bosco and george)

Marry them to each other or marry them to you?

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2015, 02:43:12 PM »
i'm gonna marry both of my cats (bosco and george)

Marry them to each other or marry them to you?

to me, obvs.  one happy polygamous homosexual bestial family unit

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2015, 02:56:04 PM »
Then allow unions with 4 or 6 or 8. I don't really care.

Ok. I do care.
Why?

Because the Bible says Adam and Eve, not Adam and Eve and Jane and Margaret and Michael.

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2015, 03:04:36 PM »
The answer given was perfectly fine.

Furthermore its just a tactic by the conservatives to obscure the issue at hand, the denial of civil rights to many people in our country.  Its a pure red herring designed to expand the issue beyond the topic at hand.  Remedy the first issue before bringing in another.

Supreme Court decisions have implications far beyond whatever topic is at hand.  They absolutely should and do ask those types of questions.

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2015, 03:24:10 PM »
The answer given was perfectly fine.

Furthermore its just a tactic by the conservatives to obscure the issue at hand, the denial of civil rights to many people in our country.  Its a pure red herring designed to expand the issue beyond the topic at hand.  Remedy the first issue before bringing in another.

Ok, so I take it then that you don't have an answer either, other than "who cares?"
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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2015, 03:27:34 PM »
i love reading supreme court transcripts. its as far as i can tell the only place left in our government where critical thought exists.

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2015, 03:28:19 PM »
Yes, they are fantastic 'raptor
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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2015, 06:58:08 PM »
The answer given was perfectly fine.

Furthermore its just a tactic by the conservatives to obscure the issue at hand, the denial of civil rights to many people in our country.  Its a pure red herring designed to expand the issue beyond the topic at hand.  Remedy the first issue before bringing in another.

Ok, so I take it then that you don't have an answer either, other than "who cares?"

"well if a man can marry a woman, why can't a man marry two women?! Oh what, people have multiple wives and it's referenced in here?? let's fix this with a little change here.  We can still beat women, right? OK. good, we can change that later, I hate my wife!"(sound of old guys laughing together) - The guys rewriting the bible, probably.

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2015, 08:59:01 PM »
KSUW did a great job explaining why we need to separate the religious teaching called marriage that came from Jewish law from a legal contract.  Gays should be torqued that they are excluded from entering a business contract.  By separating the two, the church can claim the term marriage as a religious right.  All persons should. be able to enter into a contract for life partnership.  Then we can get away from calling each other names.  The right to fully live in society should be available to all, but no one should be forced to compromise their beliefs.

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2015, 09:19:44 PM »
you dudes were fine with gov. being in the marriage business until maybe 2 dudes can get married to and now it's all "GET YOUR GOVERNMENT HANDS OFF MY MARRIAGE" lol
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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2015, 10:06:57 PM »
Lol

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2015, 10:46:27 PM »
you dudes were fine with gov. being in the marriage business until maybe 2 dudes can get married to and now it's all "GET YOUR GOVERNMENT HANDS OFF MY MARRIAGE" lol
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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2015, 07:01:17 AM »
Most Christian get married in a Church because of the religious aspect.  I really didn't give a jet engine fart about the marriage certificate from KS.  The Church is what is important to most people of faith.  Legal rules to benefit 2 people who want to have a family partnership under the law, including gays, should be the standard.  Is equal rights with everyone or taking over the term marriage the most important to LBGT?  Everyone on both sides are angry,very angry - let's find a solution that all can live with.  Liberals want government to stay out of bedrooms. I want the government to stay out of my Church.
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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2015, 08:44:13 AM »
You guys do know that there are churches out there that marry gay people, right? So changing what the government calls marriage won't stop them from getting married.

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2015, 08:49:50 AM »
You guys do know that there are churches out there that marry gay people, right? So changing what the government calls marriage won't stop them from getting married.
I was typing this as you posted.  Dammit.  I was looking back to see where the US was forcing churches that didn't marry gays, to marry them. I thought I completely missed that new clipping  and was an idiot.  Nope, what a silly thread.

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2015, 09:11:07 AM »
mods, please change thread title to Official Darksider Master Thread tia

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2015, 09:13:38 AM »
You guys do know that there are churches out there that marry gay people, right? So changing what the government calls marriage won't stop them from getting married.
I was typing this as you posted.  Dammit.  I was looking back to see where the US was forcing churches that didn't marry gays, to marry them. I thought I completely missed that new clipping  and was an idiot.  Nope, what a silly thread.

Yup - some churches already do. Most don't. All the more reason to leave it up to the churches and draw a clean line between church and state.
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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2015, 09:40:32 AM »
You guys do know that there are churches out there that marry gay people, right? So changing what the government calls marriage won't stop them from getting married.
I was typing this as you posted.  Dammit.  I was looking back to see where the US was forcing churches that didn't marry gays, to marry them. I thought I completely missed that new clipping  and was an idiot.  Nope, what a silly thread.

Yup - some churches already do. Most don't. All the more reason to leave it up to the churches and draw a clean line between church and state.

Most gay rights people were making this argument 10-15 years ago but conservatives wanted nothing to do with it.

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2015, 10:07:16 AM »
You guys do know that there are churches out there that marry gay people, right? So changing what the government calls marriage won't stop them from getting married.
I was typing this as you posted.  Dammit.  I was looking back to see where the US was forcing churches that didn't marry gays, to marry them. I thought I completely missed that new clipping  and was an idiot.  Nope, what a silly thread.

Yup - some churches already do. Most don't. All the more reason to leave it up to the churches and draw a clean line between church and state.

Most gay rights people were making this argument 10-15 years ago but conservatives wanted nothing to do with it.

I don't know that that's true, nor does it really matter.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2015, 10:40:32 AM »
you dudes were fine with gov. being in the marriage business until maybe 2 dudes can get married to and now it's all "GET YOUR GOVERNMENT HANDS OFF MY MARRIAGE" lol

JFC.....this feels dirty

Great point.  Its great that the radical neo cons are no co-opting this idea from reasonable people.
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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2015, 02:48:46 PM »
"Life partner" sounds so... lifelong though. Gays should still be able to divorce like the rest of us.
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Re: Replace the term marriage with life partner contracts
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2015, 05:58:03 PM »
That would undermine the foundation of life partnership though
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