Author Topic: Who is the worst in-game coach in the Big 12? (Read 12522 times)

TownieCat · « **Reply #100 on:** March 17, 2015, 12:28:05 PM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 17, 2015, 12:06:09 PM

There's just no way you can put Barnes in the top 15. Off the top of my head:

Coach K, Cal, Donovan, Pitino, Self, Marshall, Belein, Izzo, Roy, Bennet, Miller, Ryan, Boeheim, Brown, Few, Wright, Hoiberg.

There are a couple more that you could argue as well, and you could even argue a couple of those. I think Barnes is a borderline top 25 coach.

I'm sure it wasn't on purpose, but Thad Matta belongs in every Who Are The Best College Basketball Coaches? conversation. He's better than half of the you listed.

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #101 on:** March 17, 2015, 12:42:21 PM »

Like I said,it was just off the top of my head. A brain storm, if you will.

wetwillie · « **Reply #102 on:** March 17, 2015, 12:53:28 PM »

making the tournament consistently is really rough ridin' hard. 16 of 17 really is pretty crazy. His highs haven't been as high as some of the other greats i guess.

michigancat · « **Reply #103 on:** March 17, 2015, 12:59:54 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 17, 2015, 12:53:28 PM

making the tournament consistently is really rough ridin' hard. 16 of 17 really is pretty crazy. His highs haven't been as high as some of the other greats i guess.

Of the guys on the list, he has the same number of Final Fours as Ryan, Wright, Beilein, Marshall, and more than Bennett, Miller, Few, and Hoiberg.

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #104 on:** March 17, 2015, 01:03:25 PM »

Are you arguing he's accomplished more than those guys at this point? Yeah, he's coached over a decade longer than half of those guys. I feel pretty confident that Miller, Bennett, Hoiberg, Marshall, etc. will have accomplished more by the time they've been coaching as long as he has.

michigancat · « **Reply #105 on:** March 17, 2015, 01:11:30 PM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 17, 2015, 01:03:25 PM

Are you arguing he's accomplished more than those guys at this point? Yeah, he's coached over a decade longer than half of those guys. I feel pretty confident that Miller, Bennett, Hoiberg, Marshall, etc. will have accomplished more by the time they've been coaching as long as he has.

Easier said than done.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #106 on:** March 18, 2015, 01:01:49 PM »

http://texas.scout.com/story/1528079-could-rick-barnes-be-a-victim-of-timing?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=CPC&utm_term=Texas%20-%20Could%20Rick%20barnes%20be%20a%20victim%20of%20timing&utm_campaign=March%20Madness%20Marketing

0.42 · « **Reply #107 on:** March 19, 2015, 03:05:09 PM »

answer to OP: all of them

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #108 on:** March 19, 2015, 03:07:11 PM »

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Quote from: 42 on March 19, 2015, 03:05:09 PM

answer to OP: all of them

Trent Johnson is pretty good

Clevey 2 Times · « **Reply #109 on:** March 19, 2015, 03:30:20 PM »

Quote from: Mr Bread on March 17, 2015, 11:50:09 AM

Mike Brey would not do better at Texas than Rick Barnes you dumbfuck. He has one particularly good season this year and shitbrains come out of the woodwork saying what a great coach he is. He's a rough ridin' less accomplished oscar that didn't get fired is what he is.

His name wouldn't have been dribbling out of your fat rough ridin' mouth after 15-17 last season and that says it all about old Brey and your dumbfuckery.

I've thought this about Brey for at least the last five seasons. He gameplans well, he's good in game reacting as play requires. You could make the argument that he wouldn't recruit as well as Barnes in Austin, but I think he'd win more games there. Notre Dame is not an easy place to win games. Brey would've had ND in the tournament last year had he not dealt with J. Grant's suspension. oscar would never have won an ACC tournament in South Bend. Now go back to convincing yourself that John Groce was a good hire.

TownieCat · « **Reply #110 on:** March 19, 2015, 03:36:59 PM »

Quote from: 42 on March 19, 2015, 03:05:09 PM

answer to OP: all of them

This is the correct answer.

Clevey 2 Times · « **Reply #111 on:** March 19, 2015, 03:47:57 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 17, 2015, 11:54:44 AM

I don't know why people think Texas has some sort of huge advantage in basketball over schools like Notre Dame, Ohio State, Florida, Michigan, Louisville, UConn, etc.

I don't think the argument is that they are in a category all to themselves, but they are probably one of a dozen schools with a huge advantage.

CNS · « **Reply #112 on:** March 19, 2015, 03:54:36 PM »

Barnes is about to mush you guys.

CNS · « **Reply #113 on:** March 19, 2015, 04:01:01 PM »

Damn it

0.42 · « **Reply #114 on:** March 19, 2015, 04:52:02 PM »

TownieCat · « **Reply #115 on:** March 20, 2015, 07:13:28 PM »

https://twitter.com/davidubben/status/579068910097465344

kso_FAN · « **Reply #116 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:10:54 PM »

I remember when Brey beat Frank and Beasley. :(

bones129 · « **Reply #117 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:13:04 PM »

Quote from: TownieCat on March 20, 2015, 07:13:28 PM

https://twitter.com/davidubben/status/579068910097465344

lol

nicname · « **Reply #118 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:23:52 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on March 16, 2015, 12:43:06 PM

Quote from: mocat on March 16, 2015, 08:56:03 AM
yeah the "anybody can win at texas" thing is pretty LOL

it gets me really excited to argue the case of stud coaches Mack and Rick because I know it's coming. it's so easy to crush walk off homers off of this low/medium talking point. like, people should know better but here they come! and I'm like the slugger on rookie of the year wagging my tongue at the floater but instead of whiffing on it I crush one into the street over dead center.

I agree that "Barnes sux!" is stupid. The only-good-at-UT argument holds some water with him. He was never more than a mediocre coach anywhere but UT, and has went from great success to just pretty good at UT. It's been underwhelming lately. I wish he could turn it around.

Mack was studding and bossing at UNC for years before landing in Austin.

nicname · « **Reply #119 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:30:56 PM »

Quote from: TownieCat on March 17, 2015, 12:28:05 PM

Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 17, 2015, 12:06:09 PM
There's just no way you can put Barnes in the top 15. Off the top of my head:

Coach K, Cal, Donovan, Pitino, Self, Marshall, Belein, Izzo, Roy, Bennet, Miller, Ryan, Boeheim, Brown, Few, Wright, Hoiberg.

There are a couple more that you could argue as well, and you could even argue a couple of those. I think Barnes is a borderline top 25 coach.

I'm sure it wasn't on purpose, but Thad Matta belongs in every Who Are The Best College Basketball Coaches? conversation. He's better than half of the you listed.

True.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #120 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:32:19 PM »

Thad Matta is really good.