I guess Israel is just not part of Zbig's "Grand Chess Board"

[sonofdaxjones]

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/191966#.VPNmIfnF-So

[Kat Kid]

Israel bombing Iran would have been a huge mistake for Israel.  Whether or not this actually happened, Netanyahu doesn't really think that provoking the ire of the entire world with a unilateral bombing in the middle of a negotiation is wise.

[Kat Kid]

Yeah, it's not like Iran wants the bomb or anything.   Not that I can blame them.   What's funny is the belief that these negotiations are actually going to end in a settlement that stops Iran's quest.

Israel could hardly make a more textbook case for why Iran would seek nuclear weapons than by unilaterally bombing Iranian nuclear facilities.

Israel being the regional hegemon with nuclear weapons is fine and beneficial to everyone, but to act as though they are perpetually on the brink of being wiped out of existence as they continue to act in this role is a bit much.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Yeah, it's not like Iran wants the bomb or anything.   Not that I can blame them.   What's funny is the belief that these negotiations are actually going to end in a settlement that stops Iran's quest.

Israel could hardly make a more textbook case for why Iran would seek nuclear weapons than by unilaterally bombing Iranian nuclear facilities.

So Iran needs nuclear weapons because Israel is threatening to destroy Iran's capacity to make nuclear weapons... What a profoundly libtarded viewpoint.

[Kat Kid]

Yeah, it's not like Iran wants the bomb or anything.   Not that I can blame them.   What's funny is the belief that these negotiations are actually going to end in a settlement that stops Iran's quest.

Israel could hardly make a more textbook case for why Iran would seek nuclear weapons than by unilaterally bombing Iranian nuclear facilities.

So Iran needs nuclear weapons because Israel is threatening to destroy Iran's capacity to make nuclear weapons... What a profoundly libtarded viewpoint.

Why don't you sit this one out junior, adults are talking.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Have libtards always hated Israel (jews), or is this a support Obama no matter how irrational or stupid he acts thing?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Yeah, it's not like Iran wants the bomb or anything.   Not that I can blame them.   What's funny is the belief that these negotiations are actually going to end in a settlement that stops Iran's quest.

Israel could hardly make a more textbook case for why Iran would seek nuclear weapons than by unilaterally bombing Iranian nuclear facilities.

So Iran needs nuclear weapons because Israel is threatening to destroy Iran's capacity to make nuclear weapons... What a profoundly libtarded viewpoint.

Why don't you sit this one out junior, adults are talking.

Ok. But your statement was terrifically libtarded. If you want to formulate a different, better argument, maybe try again.

[bubbles4ksu]

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/10/03/more-white-evangelicals-than-american-jews-say-god-gave-israel-to-the-jewish-people/?utm_content=bufferff131&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer#utm_content=buffer7f356

[Kat Kid]

Yeah, it's not like Iran wants the bomb or anything.   Not that I can blame them.   What's funny is the belief that these negotiations are actually going to end in a settlement that stops Iran's quest.

Israel could hardly make a more textbook case for why Iran would seek nuclear weapons than by unilaterally bombing Iranian nuclear facilities.

So Iran needs nuclear weapons because Israel is threatening to destroy Iran's capacity to make nuclear weapons... What a profoundly libtarded viewpoint.

Why don't you sit this one out junior, adults are talking.

Ok. But your statement was terrifically libtarded. If you want to formulate a different, better argument, maybe try again.

You may well consider IR 101 "libtarded."  I don't.

Setting that aside, if your angle here is suggesting I am advocating Iran should have nuclear weapons, I am absolutely not.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Jew of no religion

[Kat Kid]

For Israel the razor edge becomes thinner, and to call Israel a hegemon . . . come on now.

Useful context for tomorrow

n 1992, then-parliamentarian Netanyahu advised the Israeli Knesset that Iran was “three to five years” away from reaching nuclear weapons capability, and that this threat had to be “uprooted by an international front headed by the U.S.”

In his 1995 book, “Fighting Terrorism,” Netanyahu once again asserted that Iran would have a nuclear weapon in “three to five years,” apparently forgetting about the expiration of his old deadline.

in 1996, Netanyahu addressed a joint session of Congress where he darkly warned, “If Iran were to acquire nuclear weapons, this could presage catastrophic consequences, not only for my country, and not only for the Middle East, but for all mankind,” adding that, “the deadline for attaining this goal is getting extremely close.”

A 2009 U.S. State Department diplomatic cable released by Wikileaks described then-prime ministerial candidate Netanyahu informing a visiting Congressional delegation that Iran was “probably one or two years away” from developing weapons capability. Another cable later the same year showed Netanyahu, now back in office as prime minister, telling a separate delegation of American politicians in Jerusalem that “Iran has the capability now to make one bomb,” adding that alternatively, “they could wait and make several bombs in a year or two.”

In 2012 Netanyahu said in closed talks reported by Israeli media that Iran is just “a few months away” from attaining nuclear capabilities. Later that same year, he gave a widely-mocked address at the United Nations in which he alleged that Iran would have the ability to construct a weapon within roughly one year, while using a printout of a cartoon bomb to illustrate his point.

[renocat]

I am amazed how much of a burr Bibi is in Barak's butt.  I do not thinl Isreal fears a rocket or jet from Iran delivering a bomb, but are worried about a suicide attack.  Also we forget that Russia is Iran's buddy.  Attack Iran, and it is no telling what pickle brain Putin will do.  Also Russia is selling state of the art anti aircraft missiles to Iran - Isreal may not be able to bomb Iran soon.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

How antisemitic do you have to be to choose Iran over Israel. Jesus  christ.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Is it deep seated antisemitism? Something you can't quantify, but must consider to be a substantial factor.

I just can't understand why a few dems and b.o. are avoiding bb. Grow up

[sonofdaxjones]

I don't think anyone really knows how close or how far the Iranians are from getting the bomb KK.   

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I don't think anyone really knows how close or how far the Iranians are from getting the bomb KK.

Does it really matter? We all agree they're trying to develop one, right? And Obama is obviosuly concerned enough to be engaging in the negotiations in the first place - or is that just another bullshit show of "diplomacy"?

[bubbles4ksu]

How antisemitic do you have to be to choose Iran over Israel. Jesus  christ.

maybe obummer is mad that the jews killed jesus?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

How antisemitic do you have to be to choose Iran over Israel. Jesus  christ.

maybe obummer is mad that the jews killed jesus?

Seems like something he would hold a petulant grudge over.

I don't know how anyone can say they're open-minded or into diplomacy, when they cry like a baby and go home every time someone disagrees with them.

[DQ12]

Let Israel fight their own damn battles, I say.

[wetwillie]

Let Israel fight their own damn battles, I say.

can we still sell them crap loads of weapons and stuff?

[8manpick]

Netanyahu is really mad today

[renocat]

Netanyahu is really mad today

I read this anger is directed at Obama's naive stance about Iran.  It about Israeli survival, not some Harvard intellectual theory class.  Obamarockbrains is sickening.

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Obamarockbrains

[Dugout DickStone]

His job is to act nuts, claim they will bomb everyone until we give Israel a bunch of money to be quiet.  He has been very good at it for decades.  He is a pitch man.