Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[SkinnyBenny]

Is anyone else like, horribly, horribly suspicious of anything on ESPN about this?  They've got a finger in every network pie.  Plus they are crazy behind on everything.

ESPN=

[yosh]

Worst part is that even if the conference stays together, KSU basically can't do crap to help it's cause in future reallignment talk.  Will forever be   anytime someone mentions a possible Big(?) implosion.  Are we going to magically put together an elite football program in the next few years?  Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping more than anything that this thing sticks together.  Just sucks getting reminded of our place in the grand scheme of things...  

This is true no matter what happens.  It will always be like this (unless a sizemic shift in the earths crust suddenly makes Kansas a desirable place to live)

Sys mentioned a Mo-Kan network to suppliment TV deals for the KC area schools.  I think something like this could help insure longterm viability.  Not becuase our own network would make a lot of money, but because we could further entagle ourselves with the bigger schools in our region.  We need to handcuff and chain ourselves to Mizzou and KU and throw away the key.  

[SleepFighter]

Why should Texas give a shazbot! about being the good guy/bad guy?  Why would they care?  

They will get in troubs with the Texas Legislature (no idea what this means but that's what everyone says)

There's something called the Texas Mineral Rights Endowment that's worth a brazillion dollars that the Texas legislature controls, and that Texas and aTm receive big time dollars from.  If either school pisses the legislature off enough, they could slow down the money faucet.

[sonofdaxjones]

Worst part is that even if the conference stays together, KSU basically can't do crap to help it's cause in future reallignment talk.  Will forever be   anytime someone mentions a possible Big(?) implosion.  Are we going to magically put together an elite football program in the next few years?  Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping more than anything that this thing sticks together.  Just sucks getting reminded of our place in the grand scheme of things...  

Who gives a shazbot!.  We will always have the loser NOT FINE Mountain West option.  May as well wear big boy pants for as long as we are allowed.

Exactly . . . so what if this only last a few more years.   Maybe then Breadsticks and the Beav will understand that this is serious $hit, and get K-State in a position to be less beholden . . . again that's LESS beholden.  

Plus . . . got dammit this is just killing productivity for me, get it done!!

[DQ12]

Worst part is that even if the conference stays together, KSU basically can't do crap to help it's cause in future reallignment talk.  Will forever be   anytime someone mentions a possible Big(?) implosion.  Are we going to magically put together an elite football program in the next few years?  Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping more than anything that this thing sticks together.  Just sucks getting reminded of our place in the grand scheme of things...  

This is true no matter what happens.  It will always be like this (unless a sizemic shift in the earths crust suddenly makes Kansas a desirable place to live)

Sys mentioned a Mo-Kan network to suppliment TV deals for the KC area schools.  I think something like this could help insure longterm viability.  Not becuase our own network would make a lot of money, but because we could further entagle ourselves with the bigger schools in our region.  We need to handcuff and chain ourselves to Mizzou and KU and throw away the key.  

We just need to hold on for a few more years until NBAF brings about 500,000 - a 1,000,000 more people to Manhattan.
 

[SkinnyBenny]

Hey.  What gives with single game tickets?  I was gonna log on to kstatesports.com to buy them right now to snatch up some tix because they were supposed to go on sale today at 10 CST.  Every time I click on a game it just says This Game Is Not Onsale.  

 

[WillieWatanabe]

From the Journal World 10:18 a.m. Update:

The Orange County Register has learned that Pac-10 officials will meet with KU tonight at an undisclosed location.

The meeting comes as no surprise in the wake of Sunday’s rumors that Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott was en route to Kansas City. His plane never landed at KCI, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t get to the area somehow, somewhere.

Sources told me late Sunday night that KU’s meeting with the Pac-10 was going down but that it was a back-up plan for KU, as it was looking more and more like the Big 12 may stay together.

[sonofdaxjones]

Worst part is that even if the conference stays together, KSU basically can't do crap to help it's cause in future reallignment talk.  Will forever be   anytime someone mentions a possible Big(?) implosion.  Are we going to magically put together an elite football program in the next few years?  Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping more than anything that this thing sticks together.  Just sucks getting reminded of our place in the grand scheme of things...  

This is true no matter what happens.  It will always be like this (unless a sizemic shift in the earths crust suddenly makes Kansas a desirable place to live)

Sys mentioned a Mo-Kan network to suppliment TV deals for the KC area schools.  I think something like this could help insure longterm viability.  Not becuase our own network would make a lot of money, but because we could further entagle ourselves with the bigger schools in our region.  We need to handcuff and chain ourselves to Mizzou and KU and throw away the key.  

We just need to hold on for a few more years until NBAF brings about 500,000 - a 1,000,000 more people to Manhattan.
 

I heard they projected 1.2 million.    

Seriously, it will bring about 500 to 1000 maybe, but having it up and running will certainly allow K-State to enhance the bull$hit "research and academic" play.  

[MeatSauce]

Why should Texas give a shazbot! about being the good guy/bad guy?  Why would they care?  

They will get in troubs with the Texas Legislature (no idea what this means but that's what everyone says)

There's something called the Texas Mineral Rights Endowment that's worth a brazillion dollars that the Texas legislature controls, and that Texas and aTm receive big time dollars from.  If either school pisses the legislature off enough, they could slow down the money faucet.

Very important variable to the situation.  It's obviously a huge bargaining tool for the legislature, and not exactly $$$ that a TV deal is going to replace.

[CHONGS]

I just want someone to ask Schultz just EXACTLY how have ku and k-state been working together?  KU is getting its house in order while we pretend they are our friend.  This whole "this meeting is just in case" b.s. is laughably transparent, yet our prez seems to be buying it.

[ew2x4]

Worst part is that even if the conference stays together, KSU basically can't do crap to help it's cause in future reallignment talk.  Will forever be   anytime someone mentions a possible Big(?) implosion.  Are we going to magically put together an elite football program in the next few years?  Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping more than anything that this thing sticks together.  Just sucks getting reminded of our place in the grand scheme of things...  

This is true no matter what happens.  It will always be like this (unless a sizemic shift in the earths crust suddenly makes Kansas a desirable place to live)

Sys mentioned a Mo-Kan network to suppliment TV deals for the KC area schools.  I think something like this could help insure longterm viability.  Not becuase our own network would make a lot of money, but because we could further entagle ourselves with the bigger schools in our region.  We need to handcuff and chain ourselves to Mizzou and KU and throw away the key.  

We just need to hold on for a few more years until NBAF brings about 500,000 - a 1,000,000 more people to Manhattan.
 

I heard they projected 1.2 million.    

Seriously, it will bring about 500 to 1000 maybe, but having it up and running will certainly allow K-State to enhance the bull$hit "research and academic" play.  

How can this bring in that many people? I heard those original numbers and just got confused. Maybe I'm missing something.

[DQ12]

Worst part is that even if the conference stays together, KSU basically can't do crap to help it's cause in future reallignment talk.  Will forever be   anytime someone mentions a possible Big(?) implosion.  Are we going to magically put together an elite football program in the next few years?  Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping more than anything that this thing sticks together.  Just sucks getting reminded of our place in the grand scheme of things...  

This is true no matter what happens.  It will always be like this (unless a sizemic shift in the earths crust suddenly makes Kansas a desirable place to live)

Sys mentioned a Mo-Kan network to suppliment TV deals for the KC area schools.  I think something like this could help insure longterm viability.  Not becuase our own network would make a lot of money, but because we could further entagle ourselves with the bigger schools in our region.  We need to handcuff and chain ourselves to Mizzou and KU and throw away the key.  

We just need to hold on for a few more years until NBAF brings about 500,000 - a 1,000,000 more people to Manhattan.
 

I heard they projected 1.2 million.    

Seriously, it will bring about 500 to 1000 maybe, but having it up and running will certainly allow K-State to enhance the bull$hit "research and academic" play.  

How can this bring in that many people? I heard those original numbers and just got confused. Maybe I'm missing something.

They'll probably just fly into MHK..
 

[Paul Moscow]

Worst part is that even if the conference stays together, KSU basically can't do crap to help it's cause in future reallignment talk.  Will forever be   anytime someone mentions a possible Big(?) implosion.  Are we going to magically put together an elite football program in the next few years?  Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping more than anything that this thing sticks together.  Just sucks getting reminded of our place in the grand scheme of things...  

This is true no matter what happens.  It will always be like this (unless a sizemic shift in the earths crust suddenly makes Kansas a desirable place to live)

Sys mentioned a Mo-Kan network to suppliment TV deals for the KC area schools.  I think something like this could help insure longterm viability.  Not becuase our own network would make a lot of money, but because we could further entagle ourselves with the bigger schools in our region.  We need to handcuff and chain ourselves to Mizzou and KU and throw away the key.  

We just need to hold on for a few more years until NBAF brings about 500,000 - a 1,000,000 more people to Manhattan.
 

I heard they projected 1.2 million.    

Seriously, it will bring about 500 to 1000 maybe, but having it up and running will certainly allow K-State to enhance the bull$hit "research and academic" play.  

How can this bring in that many people? I heard those original numbers and just got confused. Maybe I'm missing something.

Scientists roll a million deep

[ksu1982]

Hey.  What gives with single game tickets?  I was gonna log on to kstatesports.com to buy them right now to snatch up some tix because they were supposed to go on sale today at 10 CST.  Every time I click on a game it just says This Game Is Not Onsale.  

 

I got mine for the UCLA game. Should be working. Just checked missouri st. tickets and they were ready to go.

[WillieWatanabe]

Worst part is that even if the conference stays together, KSU basically can't do crap to help it's cause in future reallignment talk.  Will forever be   anytime someone mentions a possible Big(?) implosion.  Are we going to magically put together an elite football program in the next few years?  Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping more than anything that this thing sticks together.  Just sucks getting reminded of our place in the grand scheme of things...  

This is true no matter what happens.  It will always be like this (unless a sizemic shift in the earths crust suddenly makes Kansas a desirable place to live)

Sys mentioned a Mo-Kan network to suppliment TV deals for the KC area schools.  I think something like this could help insure longterm viability.  Not becuase our own network would make a lot of money, but because we could further entagle ourselves with the bigger schools in our region.  We need to handcuff and chain ourselves to Mizzou and KU and throw away the key.  

We just need to hold on for a few more years until NBAF brings about 500,000 - a 1,000,000 more people to Manhattan.
 

I heard they projected 1.2 million.    

Seriously, it will bring about 500 to 1000 maybe, but having it up and running will certainly allow K-State to enhance the bull$hit "research and academic" play.  

How can this bring in that many people? I heard those original numbers and just got confused. Maybe I'm missing something.

I thought that was over like a 20 year period. Counting on other facilities moving here as well.

[sonofdaxjones]

NBAF and support vendor jobs will probably be about 250 to 500.   It's nice to have, but it's not going to mean any kind of population explosion for Manhattan.   Maybe another 1000 or 2, that's about it . . . IMO.

[Paul Moscow]

610SportsKC

    ESPN Now confirming Chip Brown's report that Texas is STAYING IN BIG 12 8 minutes ago via web


 

[ew2x4]

Worst part is that even if the conference stays together, KSU basically can't do crap to help it's cause in future reallignment talk.  Will forever be   anytime someone mentions a possible Big(?) implosion.  Are we going to magically put together an elite football program in the next few years?  Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping more than anything that this thing sticks together.  Just sucks getting reminded of our place in the grand scheme of things...  

This is true no matter what happens.  It will always be like this (unless a sizemic shift in the earths crust suddenly makes Kansas a desirable place to live)

Sys mentioned a Mo-Kan network to suppliment TV deals for the KC area schools.  I think something like this could help insure longterm viability.  Not becuase our own network would make a lot of money, but because we could further entagle ourselves with the bigger schools in our region.  We need to handcuff and chain ourselves to Mizzou and KU and throw away the key.  

We just need to hold on for a few more years until NBAF brings about 500,000 - a 1,000,000 more people to Manhattan.
 

I heard they projected 1.2 million.    

Seriously, it will bring about 500 to 1000 maybe, but having it up and running will certainly allow K-State to enhance the bull$hit "research and academic" play.  

How can this bring in that many people? I heard those original numbers and just got confused. Maybe I'm missing something.

I thought that was over like a 20 year period.

Even then, how will one lab facility bring in 60,000 a year?

[ew2x4]

610SportsKC

    ESPN Now confirming Chip Brown's report that Texas is STAYING IN BIG 12 8 minutes ago via web

[EllToPay]

610SportsKC

    ESPN Now confirming Chip Brown's report that Texas is STAYING IN BIG 12 8 minutes ago via web


 

[sonofdaxjones]

Worst part is that even if the conference stays together, KSU basically can't do crap to help it's cause in future reallignment talk.  Will forever be   anytime someone mentions a possible Big(?) implosion.  Are we going to magically put together an elite football program in the next few years?  Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping more than anything that this thing sticks together.  Just sucks getting reminded of our place in the grand scheme of things...  

This is true no matter what happens.  It will always be like this (unless a sizemic shift in the earths crust suddenly makes Kansas a desirable place to live)

Sys mentioned a Mo-Kan network to suppliment TV deals for the KC area schools.  I think something like this could help insure longterm viability.  Not becuase our own network would make a lot of money, but because we could further entagle ourselves with the bigger schools in our region.  We need to handcuff and chain ourselves to Mizzou and KU and throw away the key.  

We just need to hold on for a few more years until NBAF brings about 500,000 - a 1,000,000 more people to Manhattan.
 

I heard they projected 1.2 million.    

Seriously, it will bring about 500 to 1000 maybe, but having it up and running will certainly allow K-State to enhance the bull$hit "research and academic" play.  

How can this bring in that many people? I heard those original numbers and just got confused. Maybe I'm missing something.

I thought that was over like a 20 year period.

Even then, how will one lab facility bring in 60,000 a year?

Dude . . . it's called sarcasm

[The42Yardstick]

610SportsKC

    ESPN Now confirming Chip Brown's report that Texas is STAYING IN BIG 12 8 minutes ago via web

[yosh]

I just want someone to ask Schultz just EXACTLY how have ku and k-state been working together?  KU is getting its house in order while we pretend they are our friend.  This whole "this meeting is just in case" b.s. is laughably transparent, yet our prez seems to be buying it.

Might have something to do with the "fine" CC referred to.  If A&M goes to the SEC, the Kansas schools replace A&M & Tech to the Pac 10?    Completely tardish I know, but I think the "we have to take the Texas scrubs to get UT" is out the window now that A&M is threatening to break up the connection.  Do the Kansas schools have more draw power than Utah & T-Tech?  

[sonofdaxjones]

Well . . . everybody gets all pissed off when you discuss this.   But if you're arkansas, can you really be all that thrilled if Texas A&M joins the SEC??   I view that situation kind of like the way I view how Arizona and Arizona State view the possibility of 5 Big 12 teams going to the Pac-10.   Behind closed doors they can't be all that thrilled about it.  

[1/64th]

610SportsKC

    ESPN Now confirming Chip Brown's report that Texas is STAYING IN BIG 12 8 minutes ago via web

Is this ESPN confirming that Chip Brown is reporting that Texas is staying or is this ESPN saying that Texas is staying, just like Chip Brown said?