Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[Rage Against the McKee]

So, the storied Big 8/12 is replaced in the BCS by the freaking MWC?  I just can't imagine that happening.

As long as we're a part of the MWC when it happens, this would be much better for K-State than the status quo.

[Pete]

Most of you guys are thinking about this all wrong. We are not going to see less BCS games, and I doubt the BCS will drop the number of conferences with automatic bids. So the best case scenario is Missouri and Nebraska to the Big 10, Texas, A&M, OU, and OSU to the SEC, CU to the PAC 10, and KSU, KU, and Tech to the Mountain West. The Mountain West would become a BCS conference to replace the automatic bid vacated by the former Big 12. This would allow us to take conference road trips to San Diego, Fort Collins, and Salt Lake City, as well as play in BCS bowl games more often than not.

...and Iowa Sate and Baylor, plus pull two others (Boise State and Fresno State????) to make the Mountain West a 16 team super conference that is (cough, cough) worthy of inclusion in the BCS.

Ya, I'd take that versus just being in a regular mid-major.  

I still think that there is a small chance we stay in the Big 12, and it actually expands to 16 in a similar fashion....buy adding a couple former Big East teams and a few mid-majors.






Who do you think I have speak with to get _Fan's Doom shirts put on here?



http://mwcstore.teamfanshop.com/Default.aspx/source/MWC-032610Spring-300

Would we even need those other schools? If anything, Iowa State and Baylor might make the conference less BCS-worthy from a competitive standpoint, and the mountain west is already very close to becoming a BCS conference as is. Plus, I hate Baylor and would love to ditch those losers. Iowa State would have insane travel costs and might not want to join just because of that.

I'd rather have anyone than Air Force.  DO NOT WANT!

[jtksu]

It just seems more likely that we poach some of t he bigger MWC type teams and remain the Big 8/12/16.  Generally the big fish eat the small fish, not vice versa.  Adding a TCU, CSU, Utah, Louisville, etc would make more sense than the MWC becoming a BCS.

[chum1]

I don't want to go to the Mountain West if it's a BCS conference.

[Rage Against the McKee]

It just seems more likely that we poach some of t he bigger MWC type teams and remain the Big 8/12/16.  Generally the big fish eat the small fish, not vice versa.  Adding a TCU, CSU, Utah, Louisville, etc would make more sense than the MWC becoming a BCS.

The New Big 12:

K-State
KU
ISU
Baylor
Tech
BYU
Utah
CSU
Louisville
Memphis
TCU
Some other crappy team? Maybe Houston or LA Tech?

This conference would just suck. I would much rather just implode the Big 12 and move on to the Mtn. West. The only other good alternative would be to form a brand new Big 8 with no affiliation to the Big 12 that includes
K-State
KU
Tech
BYU
Utah
Louisville
Memphis
TCU

This would mean less tv sets, but less teams to split them between as well. We would also have a solid shot at BCS standing as nobody is really terrible except for Memphis football.

[ew2x4]

I can't really see UT leaving for the SEC. Or CU leaving for Pac 10. I could be wrong, hope I'm not.

What I see as a most likely scenario-

Utah
BYU
KSU
KSU
ISU
CU

UT
OU
OSU
TTech
Baylor
A&M

If this doesn't happen, I see KSU, KU, Tech, and OSU joining the BCS MWC. Either of which I'd take. Would be amazing to get to see KSU at Air Force.

[steve dave]

Raise your hand if you would rather move to the Mt. West than continue in the exact same Big 12 we have now

[Pete]

Raise your hand if you would rather move to the Mt. West than continue in the exact same Big 12 we have now

Is this based on the assumption that it would be a "BCS" (albeit, bottom of barrel BCS) conference?

[ew2x4]

As long as it would be BCS, hell yes I would.

[steve dave]

Raise your hand if you would rather move to the Mt. West than continue in the exact same Big 12 we have now

Is this based on the assumption that it would be a "BCS" (albeit, bottom of barrel BCS) conference?

Yeah, adding us and another garbage program or two makes it one (according to me, the decider)

[ew2x4]

My guess is they'd try to get up to 16. Grabbing old Big XII teams and running. KSU, KU, OSU, Tech, Baylor, etc.

[jtksu]

OSU will go wherever OU goes.

[Trim]

I'm good with whatever puts us in conference with UNLV.

[OK_Cat]

OSU will go wherever OU goes.

This.

And OU will go wherever UT goes.  

So if UT goes anywhere, then A&M, OU, and OSU will follow.

 

[jtksu]

Maybe just combine the MWC and whatever is left of the Big 12.  2 divisions:  East= Big 12 leftovers + CSU and AFA.  West = Other MWC teams.   CCG in Denver?  :notsoundingsobadafterall:

[nicname]

I don't want Nebraska or KU following us to the Mountain West.

I think we can make our escape without NU on our coattails but KU is prolly not so easy to shake. 

Especially with people like Pete clamoring to bring lil bro to the MW along with us. 

Question:  Will you feel more elite as part of the mountain west because we are in the same conference as beautiful mountain campus settings like BYU, UTAH, Colorado State, Air Force and the entertainment mecca of Las Vegas?  Or will the presence of these resort universities make us feel inadequate?  I mean, the flint hills are nice and all, but 

[Pete]

I don't want Nebraska or KU following us to the Mountain West.

I think we can make our escape without NU on our coattails but KU is prolly not so easy to shake. 

Especially with people like Pete clamoring to bring lil bro to the MW along with us. 

Question:  Will you feel more elite as part of the mountain west because we are in the same conference as beautiful mountain campus settings like BYU, UTAH, Colorado State, Air Force and the entertainment mecca of Las Vegas?  Or will the presence of these resort universities make us feel inadequate?  I mean, the flint hills are nice and all, but 

NO AIR FORCE!  We've had enough run-ins with baby killers.  Joke...don't rough ridin' flip out internet PC police.

[kstatefreak42]

reading this         Me-

[ew2x4]

I don't want Nebraska or KU following us to the Mountain West.

I think we can make our escape without NU on our coattails but KU is prolly not so easy to shake. 

Especially with people like Pete clamoring to bring lil bro to the MW along with us. 

Question:  Will you feel more elite as part of the mountain west because we are in the same conference as beautiful mountain campus settings like BYU, UTAH, Colorado State, Air Force and the entertainment mecca of Las Vegas?  Or will the presence of these resort universities make us feel inadequate?  I mean, the flint hills are nice and all, but 

NO AIR FORCE!  We've had enough run-ins with baby killers.  Joke...don't rough ridin' flip out internet PC police.

AF is the main reason I'm for this.

[steve dave]

San Diego, Las Vegas, FoCo, CO Springs....it has it all

[Pete]

I don't want Nebraska or KU following us to the Mountain West.

I think we can make our escape without NU on our coattails but KU is prolly not so easy to shake. 

Especially with people like Pete clamoring to bring lil bro to the MW along with us. 

Question:  Will you feel more elite as part of the mountain west because we are in the same conference as beautiful mountain campus settings like BYU, UTAH, Colorado State, Air Force and the entertainment mecca of Las Vegas?  Or will the presence of these resort universities make us feel inadequate?  I mean, the flint hills are nice and all, but 

NO AIR FORCE!  We've had enough run-ins with baby killers.  Joke...don't fracking flip out internet PC police.

AF is the main reason I'm for this.

Service Academies are terrible for college sports.  

[ew2x4]

I don't want Nebraska or KU following us to the Mountain West.

I think we can make our escape without NU on our coattails but KU is prolly not so easy to shake. 

Especially with people like Pete clamoring to bring lil bro to the MW along with us. 

Question:  Will you feel more elite as part of the mountain west because we are in the same conference as beautiful mountain campus settings like BYU, UTAH, Colorado State, Air Force and the entertainment mecca of Las Vegas?  Or will the presence of these resort universities make us feel inadequate?  I mean, the flint hills are nice and all, but 

NO AIR FORCE!  We've had enough run-ins with baby killers.  Joke...don't fracking flip out internet PC police.

AF is the main reason I'm for this.

Service Academies are terrible for college sports. 

If it means I'll get to see the cats where I live, they could be Hitler lovers for all I care.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Raise your hand if you would rather move to the Mt. West than continue in the exact same Big 12 we have now

[Rage Against the McKee]

I can't really see UT leaving for the SEC. Or CU leaving for Pac 10. I could be wrong, hope I'm not.

What I see as a most likely scenario-

Utah
BYU
KSU
KSU
ISU
CU

UT
OU
OSU
TTech
Baylor
A&M

If this doesn't happen, I see KSU, KU, Tech, and OSU joining the BCS MWC. Either of which I'd take. Would be amazing to get to see KSU at Air Force.

I think that the south will stay intact at least for a while if NU does not leave. If NU were to leave, then we would not be able to find anyone to vote against revenue sharing, and Texas would immediately start whoring itself out, and most of the south would leave with them. This is why it is important that we try to convince NU that leaving is in their best interest, just like we convinced KU fans that Mangino was a sh!tty coach. Our mountain road trips and BCS bowl game hopes depend on it.

[jtksu]

I dont see us adding Utah and BYU before TCU or CSU.  Those 2 make much geograpic sense.  Plus, I imagine the Pac 10 would go after them and BSU pretty hard.  Maybe the Pac  10 can also take UNM and NMSU, those are shitty football venues and I don't want anything to do with them.