Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[goldenticket]

VCU, George Mason and Butler have had discussions with the Atlantic 10 and indicated to the league they have potential interest in joining for the 2013-14 school year, sources told CBSSports.com.

VCU and George Mason are currently in the Colonial Athletic Association and Butler is in the Horizon League. All three schools would need approval from their respective school boards to make the move.

Sources told CBSSports.com that VCU's Board of Visitors already has had at least two meetings about making the move, while Butler has negotiated with representatives of the Atlantic 10 for the league to assist financially for the Bulldogs to change leagues.

The three schools would help replace schools that are leaving the A-10. Temple is headed to the Big East and sources told CBSSports.com that Charlotte has received an “informal invitation” to the Sun Belt. The 49ers are starting up a football program in 2013 at the FCS level, but couldn't make a move to the FBS until 2015.

Creighton, of the Missouri Valley Conference, also has been mentioned as a possibility for the Atlantic 10. Father Timothy Lannon, Creighton's president since 2011, was previously president for eight years at St. Joseph's, so there's a political connection between the league and the school. However, Creighton – the only Catholic university in the MVC – is a poor geographical fit, so the Blue Jays might be a long shot.

[nicname]

Wow lisgtening to slive on petro.  I'm cumming in my pants if I'm a mu fan. 

[MakeItRain]

Wow lisgtening to slive on petro.  I'm cumming in my pants if I'm a mu fan.

I think he sounds like an overly arrogant, bourbon swilling, douche but not a douche.  What do you call a 75 year old who acts like a douche.  Douche is reserved for people under 50.

Anyway, this is bullshit and hearing these Mizzou fans herp derping it up makes me want to fight all of them.

[MakeItRain]

Dickhead, that's the term I'm looking for, Slive is a dickhead.  Listening to this one on one interview with Soren reveals Slive to be highly unlikable and I don't even like Soren.

SP-"Do you think its possible for Missouri to ever move from the east to the west?"
MS-"I don't deal with hypotheticals..."
SP-"Did you, have you discussed travel"
MS-"We discussed everything"
SP- "So do you think that college athletics has become an arms race?"
MS- "It's easy to make a generalization that you have"

[deputy dawg]

I don't hold age distinctions for dickheads or douches, so using either reference for Slive would be appropriate.  BITB slobbed his knob pretty big time on the afternoon 810 show.

[Katpappy]

BCS Playoff Options; which one will we end up with?

Status, April 4, 2012 Making College Football Better and Even More Popular: The deliberative process began last summer. Since then, the commissioners have reviewed many options. Generally the options fall into two categories: (1) Deciding the national champion and (2) enhancing the bowl experience by including other games. While no options have been officially "taken off the table," the group is focusing on these options, in no particular order: Deciding the National Champion. 1. BCS With Adjustments. Basically continue the current arrangement whereby no teams play more than one post-season game, with the following enhancements: (a) change or eliminate annual automatic qualification except for contracts negotiated between conferences and bowls, (b) eliminate the limit on the number of participants from each conference, (c) play the games nearer to January 1, (d) create a format that would accommodate different conference champions participating in different bowl games. 2. Original "Plus One." championship game. After the bowl games are played, select two teams for the

3. Four-team event, with seeded semi-finals and a championship game. Options: A. All three games in bowls; B. All three games at neutral sites which would be selected through a bid process if the negotiation period with the current bowl organizations that is provided for under our current contract does not conclude successfully. No neutral site games would be branded as bowl games even if bowl organizations host the games; or, C. Semifinal games in bowls, championship-game site selected through a bid process if the negotiation period with the current bowl organizations that is provided for under our current contract does not conclude successfully. The championship game would not be branded as a bowl game even if a bowl organization serves as host. D. Semifinal games at campus sites, championship-game site selected through a bid process if the negotiation period with the current bowl organizations that is provided for under our current contract does not conclude successfully. The championship game would not be branded as a bowl game even if a bowl organization serves as host. 4. Four Teams Plus. The four highest-ranked teams meet in two games except that the Big Ten and Pac-12 champions will always play in the Rose Bowl. If the Big Ten champion, the Pac12 champion, or both are in the top four, that team (or those two teams) would play in the Rose Bowl and the other two games would be filled by the other four highest-ranked teams. Select two teams for the championship game after those three games have been played. ### Enhancing the Bowl Experience With Additional Adjustments to the Post-Season . Separate and apart from deciding the national champion, the commissioners are considering ways to enhance the bowl experience for student athletes and fans and to improve the post-season generally. Included in those discussions are the following options:
1. 10- or 12-Team Event. If No. 2, 3 or 4 above is adopted, create bowl opportunities for six or eight other teams in addition to the four in the semifinals. Matchups would be determined by committee with the aim of providing the most evenly matched and attractive games that make geographic sense for the participants. All participating bowls would also be required to adhere to the standards of responsible governance applied to the current BCS bowls. 2. 20-Team Event. If No. 2, 3 or 4 above is adopted, create bowl opportunities for 16 other teams in addition to the four in the semifinals. Again, matchups would be determined by committee with the aim of providing the most evenly matched and attractive contests that make geographic sense for the participants. All participating bowls would also be required to adhere to the standards for responsible governance applied to the current BCS bowls. ### Dates of Games - The commissioners are working within the bowl-game calendar outlined by the NCAA task force. If a four-team event is created, an exemption may be necessary in one or two years over the next decade, because of vagaries in the calendar and the NFL schedule. ### Management - Generally the commissioners lean toward continuing the current management arrangement. ### Revenue Distribution - The commissioners have appointed a small sub-group to consider the appropriate distribution of revenue and report back to the full group. ###

4-3-2012

[Cartierfor3]

The rose bowl is annoying.

[Katpappy]

The rose bowl is annoying.

Why don't they play the playoff games at the Bowls; but not allow the Bowls to pick the teams.  That way there could be 4, 2, 1 playoff bowl games.  Of course, bad person good ole boys representing Rose Bowl probably won't want this. 

[Katpappy]

Here's a gem from the Texass site.
Walking Boss
25+ posts
01/26/12 09:33 AM
 Re: Fla State & Clemson to Big 12? [re: Trusted Insider]     

We need to get to twelve teams as soon as possible so we don't have to play k-state every year. Otherwise the horns may never play for another national championship.

 

[Houstoncat93]

Here is another post from the guy that was quoted several pages ago on the boneyard. He claims to be an insider from a firm that consults on the value of TV contracts.

http://the-boneyard.com/threads/big-12-exploring-whether-to-have-a-13-year-grant-of-tv-rights.17114/#post-222628

No one's going to 18. The reason being, every team has to bring at least the same value as the average paid out by the conference's TV contracts. And on top of that, the larger the conference, the more difficult it is to add incremental value to a contract........b/c the incremental value is divided over more members. It's the law of diminishing returns.

And, you can go ahead and count out Tulane. No quality conference will ever add them during either of our lifetimes. No TVs, no money, poor athletics, minimal institutional interest in building their athletic programs. At this point, the only teams that any of the big 5 conferences would add are those that add $$$ via on-field performance or $$$ via TVs......and neither of this is Tulane......now or ever.

And, the ACC doesn't have to die if the Big XII decides to stay at 10. Beyond that, there's still a long way to go before ESPN finalizes the reworked ACC contract. The Big XII contract will come out shortly. Until all the numbers are on the table, it's too early to say that any of them have to die. But, the odds are that b/c of the way the ACC's contract is structured, they'll be unlikely to close the gap in TV revenue that exists between them, the SEC, Big Ten, Pac-12, and Big XII.

FWIW, the Big XII contract will end up higher than what was leaked previously.

[A-Lishious]

Wow... you guys ive said this before and its bloody obvious but this thread is a genius-scientist-wizard of awesomness.

Best history of realignment. It needs to be a book - or at least cited by whomever does write one.

Ill help write it fwiw

[DQ12]

So I guess a Louisville commit said he and Charlie Strong talked about how Louisville is going to be in the Big 12.

[steve dave]

So I guess a Louisville commit said he and Charlie Strong talked about how Louisville is going to be in the Big 12.

that would be fine I guess

[Skipper44]

So I guess a Louisville commit said he and Charlie Strong talked about how Louisville is going to be in the Big 12.

that would be fine I guess

not unless they are bringing UND or a FSU type with them.  10 team league is  > 12 with UL and BYU-ish type.  Only upside is OB would own a North division and championship games are such fun.

Didn't we hear this rumor around the time WVU committed?

[bws]

From Shaggy today...

I just received this email. Very interesting, but most things seem to have been known.


There are many scenarios the Big 12 is preparing for, but this is what has been going on.

Clemson and Florida State have been approached by the Big 12 to join the conference. Clemson insists on bringing Miami with them; however, there is some resistance to that by some Big 12 schools. Now will those schools join? I have no clue, but there is no doubt that they have been approached. Neither school is leaving the ACC unless they both agree to leave together. I would say Clemson is more interested in joining the Big 12 than Florida State is. Both schools are waiting on the new commissioner before making a decision. Georgia Tech was on the radar, but it seems that they are happy in the ACC.

The Big 12 will push for two or three schools that would appeal Notre Dame only if Clemson and Florida State join. Those schools will not be invited unless Notre Dame joins first. The Big 12 has not approached these schools and will not unless Notre Dame shows high interest.

The Big 12 has Louisville on the radar, but their choices are Florida State and Clemson. If those two schools do not join then you can expect Louisville to be number 11 to join the conference. Oklahoma and Kansas are driving the Louisville to the Big 12 train. Texas, Iowa State, and Kansas State prefer other candidates, but will not block the school if school number 12 is appealing to them.

Louisville’s acceptance to the Big 12 will depend on whether Notre Dame joins and approval from the three schools that are currently not interested. Even if Notre Dame decides not to join and Florida State and Clemson do, Louisville still has a good chance on being member #13. I personally think that Louisville will end up in the conference.

BYU has very little chance of joining the Big 12. I think most schools in the Big 12 will block the move if they are considered for membership. I know Texas and Texas Tech will. We are going to expand east so we can get more schools closer to West Virginia. This is a high priority for the Big 12. They don’t want West Virginia to be left alone. The appeal of the school does play a big factor, and BYU isn’t appealing enough to go west.

[CyberToothCat]

BYU has very little chance of joining the Big 12. I think most schools in the Big 12 will block the move if they are considered for membership. I know Texas and Texas Tech will. We are going to expand east so we can get more schools closer to West Virginia. This is a high priority for the Big 12. They don’t want West Virginia to be left alone. The appeal of the school does play a big factor, and BYU isn’t appealing enough to go west.

Preach on!! I was never in favor of adding BYU, but now that we've got an east coast team in the conference, BYU makes ZERO sense.  The only way I would even slightly be okay with adding BYU is if Notre Dame demands it as a condition for joining.  And since I think there's no chance Notre Dame joins the Big 12, I don't think there's any reason to ever look in BYU's direction.

[ChiComCat]

BYU has very little chance of joining the Big 12. I think most schools in the Big 12 will block the move if they are considered for membership. I know Texas and Texas Tech will. We are going to expand east so we can get more schools closer to West Virginia. This is a high priority for the Big 12. They don’t want West Virginia to be left alone. The appeal of the school does play a big factor, and BYU isn’t appealing enough to go west.

Preach on!! I was never in favor of adding BYU, but now that we've got an east coast team in the conference, BYU makes ZERO sense.  The only way I would even slightly be okay with adding BYU is if Notre Dame demands it as a condition for joining.  And since I think there's no chance Notre Dame joins the Big 12, I don't think there's any reason to ever look in BYU's direction.

BYU would make our conference infinitely more interesting.

[OregonSmock]

Add Louisville and Cincinnati yesterday.  #34 and #50 TV markets, plus two solid athletic departments.  Bridges the gap between West Virginia and the rest of the Big 12, plus you open up secondary markets in Indianapolis and Cleveland/Columbus.

[star seed 7]

Add Louisville and Cincinnati yesterday.  #34 and #50 TV markets, plus two solid athletic departments.  Bridges the gap between West Virginia and the rest of the Big 12, plus you open up secondary markets in Indianapolis and Cleveland/Columbus.

stay out of this gross basketball school.

[CNS]

Add Louisville and Cincinnati yesterday.  #34 and #50 TV markets, plus two solid athletic departments.  Bridges the gap between West Virginia and the rest of the Big 12, plus you open up secondary markets in Indianapolis and Cleveland/Columbus.

Ohio recruiting would be nice.

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[steve dave]

we're never recruiting Ohio you dumbasses

[star seed 7]

maybe i'm dumb, but it seems pretty stupid to think the big12 would make inroads to indy, columbus, cleveland, etc.  a lot of games are still regional coverage.  this means the tv stations choose what game they show.  lol at anyone thinking they would be showing big12 over big 10 in columbus, indy, cleveland.  hell, probably wouldn't even show big12 in cincy.  worthless.

[sonofdaxjones]

Louisville would be fine.

[steve dave]

Louisville would be fine.

depends if this FSU/Clemson stuff is BS or not (I can't imagine any way it's not).  If it somehow was legit Louisville would not be fine until we saw how legitimate it was. 

[BostonPancake]

From Shaggy today...

I just received this email. Very interesting, but most things seem to have been known.


There are many scenarios the Big 12 is preparing for, but this is what has been going on.

Clemson and Florida State have been approached by the Big 12 to join the conference. Clemson insists on bringing Miami with them; however, there is some resistance to that by some Big 12 schools. Now will those schools join? I have no clue, but there is no doubt that they have been approached. Neither school is leaving the ACC unless they both agree to leave together. I would say Clemson is more interested in joining the Big 12 than Florida State is. Both schools are waiting on the new commissioner before making a decision. Georgia Tech was on the radar, but it seems that they are happy in the ACC.

The Big 12 will push for two or three schools that would appeal Notre Dame only if Clemson and Florida State join. Those schools will not be invited unless Notre Dame joins first. The Big 12 has not approached these schools and will not unless Notre Dame shows high interest.

The Big 12 has Louisville on the radar, but their choices are Florida State and Clemson. If those two schools do not join then you can expect Louisville to be number 11 to join the conference. Oklahoma and Kansas are driving the Louisville to the Big 12 train. Texas, Iowa State, and Kansas State prefer other candidates, but will not block the school if school number 12 is appealing to them.

Louisville’s acceptance to the Big 12 will depend on whether Notre Dame joins and approval from the three schools that are currently not interested. Even if Notre Dame decides not to join and Florida State and Clemson do, Louisville still has a good chance on being member #13. I personally think that Louisville will end up in the conference.

BYU has very little chance of joining the Big 12. I think most schools in the Big 12 will block the move if they are considered for membership. I know Texas and Texas Tech will. We are going to expand east so we can get more schools closer to West Virginia. This is a high priority for the Big 12. They don’t want West Virginia to be left alone. The appeal of the school does play a big factor, and BYU isn’t appealing enough to go west.

Thoughts:

1.  Why does Clemson want to bring Miami along if Florida St comes with them?
2.  Does this mean if we get Clemson and FSU, AND Notre Dame decides to join as well, that the Big12 will look to go to 16?  What schools would appease ND that would think about leaving whatever conference the are currently in?  I can't imagine that Louisville does.
3.  Good job by KSU to side with texas on Louisville.