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« Reply #13475 on: September 20, 2011, 08:04:05 PM »
I'm sure every school has some form of informal agreement should this thing fall apart.

Weren't several schools talking merger with the Big East yesterday?

With OU and UT in the middle of the Red River Missile Crisis, I don't blame them for having some sort of life raft ready to go.

yeah, it just looks really, really bad.  the school of the chancellor who's working tirelessly to save the conference is also, apparently, working to get to the SEC.  hopefully it just gets swept under the rug quickly and OU and UT can slap each other's dicks together and call it a day.  Because the Pac-12 presidents are supposed to "vote" by the end of the week.  You'd think that UT would understand their golden bridge is looking like the nice guy/savior.  And BITB's arrangement didn't sound bad (i.e. UT keeps/gets reimbursed "start up costs" and gets to keep 1-2 years of "revenue", then the LHN gets rolled into a B12 Network when we go shopping for Tier 1 contract).

MU just has to keep its dick in its pants long enough, because the Big 10 is just putting on makeup and a hot little outfit that will be sure to draw MU's attention.

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« Reply #13476 on: September 20, 2011, 08:06:03 PM »
Mizzou probably ranks their options from best to worst as

1. Big 10
2. Keep the band together
3. The sec
4. Everything else

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Agreed, which makes me wonder if this will get the Big 10 moving.

Probably not.  If it looks like the Big 12 will actually stick together, or has a chance to stick together, Delany will probably hold back.  He won't go past twelve unless ND is on the table or the rules completely change, which probably won't happen if the SEC does stick to 14.

Mizzou is a good add, but they're not worth going to thirteen for.  Fourteen?  They're as good as it gets.

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« Reply #13477 on: September 20, 2011, 08:11:01 PM »
I'm sure every school has some form of informal agreement should this thing fall apart.

Weren't several schools talking merger with the Big East yesterday?

With OU and UT in the middle of the Red River Missile Crisis, I don't blame them for having some sort of life raft ready to go.

yeah, it just looks really, really bad.  the school of the chancellor who's working tirelessly to save the conference is also, apparently, working to get to the SEC.  hopefully it just gets swept under the rug quickly and OU and UT can slap each other's dicks together and call it a day.  Because the Pac-12 presidents are supposed to "vote" by the end of the week.  You'd think that UT would understand their golden bridge is looking like the nice guy/savior.  And BITB's arrangement didn't sound bad (i.e. UT keeps/gets reimbursed "start up costs" and gets to keep 1-2 years of "revenue", then the LHN gets rolled into a B12 Network when we go shopping for Tier 1 contract).

MU just has to keep its dick in its pants long enough, because the Big 10 is just putting on makeup and a hot little outfit that will be sure to draw MU's attention.

They've never been good at controlling leaks over there.  But, agreed, it looks bad.  No worse than OU and Texas actually having regents meetings enabling them to leave whenever though.

I guess I'm not worried that this really holds things up.

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« Reply #13478 on: September 20, 2011, 08:14:31 PM »
General thought: Why not add BYU as football only member, but add Notre Dame in all non-revenue sports since the Big East is most likely gone?

Seems like something most schools would be cool with.  Prevents logistical issues with non-revenues and BYU's travel policies, allows BYU to save face with the WCC, and it gives ND a safe place to land with a couple of schools it's recently started to ally with (Texas, BYU).

Anyway, seems doable.

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« Reply #13479 on: September 20, 2011, 08:15:04 PM »
They've never been good at controlling leaks over there.  But, agreed, it looks bad.  No worse than OU and Texas actually having regents meetings enabling them to leave whenever though.I guess I'm not worried that this really holds things up.

ho's don't talk back to their pimp.  it's rude.

deep down, this thing turning on a dime (or at least the appearance that it is turning on a dime) is too good to be true.  I mean, the hopeful result is common, logical sense (i.e. stability is gained with an nfl model, not mlb model) however if everything to this point was "spin", what's to say that it still isn't?  Beebe is a wonderful fall guy for OU and/or UT when they leave.  OU practically sounds like NU did (after they left).  I'm not sold (but happier than I was when I woke up).

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« Reply #13480 on: September 20, 2011, 08:22:05 PM »
They've never been good at controlling leaks over there.  But, agreed, it looks bad.  No worse than OU and Texas actually having regents meetings enabling them to leave whenever though.I guess I'm not worried that this really holds things up.

ho's don't talk back to their pimp.  it's rude.

deep down, this thing turning on a dime (or at least the appearance that it is turning on a dime) is too good to be true.  I mean, the hopeful result is common, logical sense (i.e. stability is gained with an nfl model, not mlb model) however if everything to this point was "spin", what's to say that it still isn't?  Beebe is a wonderful fall guy for OU and/or UT when they leave.  OU practically sounds like NU did (after they left).  I'm not sold (but happier than I was when I woke up).

Oh, I'm sure it's not "over".

These schools have had a couple of weeks to really look at other options and see what's truly out there.  I'm sure they've gotten feedback from big donors, politicians, power players, etc.  I'm sure they know what plays are out there, and in the end, they probably realized what everyone already knew, and that's that the money here will be just as good, it's what the fans want, it's what the schools want, it's what the states want, and it's probably their best option.

If things have turned around on a dime this fast, and UT ultimately will concede a lot of things we didn't think they would, it probably means someone political sat them down and told them to play nicey nice and get a deal done.

And, because you screwed up, you get TCU now.  Have a nice day.

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« Reply #13481 on: September 20, 2011, 08:24:30 PM »
IF the Big 12 survives (sans the bonfires), it would seem kinda weird/odd to go kill the big east.  I hope we're nice. 

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« Reply #13482 on: September 20, 2011, 08:26:37 PM »
IF the Big 12 survives (sans the bonfires), it would seem kinda weird/odd to go kill the big east.  I hope we're nice. 

It won't be just us.  Everyone will take a bite.

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« Reply #13483 on: September 20, 2011, 08:27:40 PM »
IF the Big 12 survives (sans the bonfires), it would seem kinda weird/odd to go kill the big east.  I hope we're nice. 

I hope we stick a thumb in their ass as we rail them from behind in hopes of survival.   :emawkid:
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« Reply #13484 on: September 20, 2011, 08:28:13 PM »
yeah, put me in the we're f*cked corner again.  


 
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Source: OU officials not confident Texas will meet demands to bring equality to Big 12 by making changes to the Longhorn Network.
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Source: OU regents pushing for Pac-12, Boren undecided, hopes to get answers from Deaton,& CEOs about changes needed to stay in Big 12.
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» DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: Boren & Deaton to meet this week. OU expects to have a decision by end of the week.
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« Reply #13485 on: September 20, 2011, 08:29:47 PM »
This is their number one request?  JFC.  why not request a chicken sandwich from chick fil a?  It would probably be more difficult to get done.

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Source: Beebe's ouster remains OU's No. 1 request. Deal breaker if denied.
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« Reply #13486 on: September 20, 2011, 08:31:13 PM »
yeah, put me in the we're f*cked corner again.  


 
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DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: OU officials not confident Texas will meet demands to bring equality to Big 12 by making changes to the Longhorn Network.
13 minutes ago »

 DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: OU regents pushing for Pac-12, Boren undecided, hopes to get answers from Deaton,& CEOs about changes needed to stay in Big 12.
21 minutes ago

» DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: Boren & Deaton to meet this week. OU expects to have a decision by end of the week.
24 minutes ago


If Texas doesn't concede to whatever it is OU is asking, they're going to lose the whole thing.

My guess is that they will.  They just have to whine about it for a little while.

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« Reply #13487 on: September 20, 2011, 08:31:41 PM »
yeah, put me in the we're f*cked corner again.  


 
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DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: OU officials not confident Texas will meet demands to bring equality to Big 12 by making changes to the Longhorn Network.
13 minutes ago »

 DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: OU regents pushing for Pac-12, Boren undecided, hopes to get answers from Deaton,& CEOs about changes needed to stay in Big 12.
21 minutes ago

» DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: Boren & Deaton to meet this week. OU expects to have a decision by end of the week.
24 minutes ago


THAT makes you think we're mumped? man.

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« Reply #13488 on: September 20, 2011, 08:32:13 PM »
Texans in general are effing shitheads and they'd rather see it all burn than to live with the feeling that you got one over on them.

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« Reply #13489 on: September 20, 2011, 08:34:32 PM »
I don't like this tearing apart of conferences any more than the next guy but if its us or them I am not going to shed a tear.
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« Reply #13490 on: September 20, 2011, 08:34:43 PM »
what Moscow said.
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« Reply #13491 on: September 20, 2011, 08:35:01 PM »
Any news out of the Big East meeting tonight?  Guess it's probably not over yet...

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« Reply #13492 on: September 20, 2011, 08:37:34 PM »
Texans in general are effing shitheads and they'd rather see it all burn than to live with the feeling that you got one over on them.

This. And I'm one of those effing shitheads. There's no way UT will agree to OU's demands unless someone political or all the conference commissioners essentially point a (indy) gun in their face and tell them that they're gonna play nice. Read shaggybevo or any other UT bbs. That is how their fans and their administration thinks. They will not stop until they replace the NCAA and run all of college athletics, and then they'll try and take over the NFL.

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« Reply #13493 on: September 20, 2011, 08:37:41 PM »
I mean he's had to have known for a while now but man having a public bounty on your head can't do much for the old self esteem. Plus he is basically neutered even beyond what he already was to the remaining schools.
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« Reply #13494 on: September 20, 2011, 08:37:48 PM »
yeah, put me in the we're f*cked corner again.  


 
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DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: OU officials not confident Texas will meet demands to bring equality to Big 12 by making changes to the Longhorn Network.
13 minutes ago »

 DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: OU regents pushing for Pac-12, Boren undecided, hopes to get answers from Deaton,& CEOs about changes needed to stay in Big 12.
21 minutes ago

» DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: Boren & Deaton to meet this week. OU expects to have a decision by end of the week.
24 minutes ago


THAT makes you think we're mumped? man.

it doesn't take much. you should have seen me when BYU went up 12-2 to start the game.

Also, what 42 said.  They will cut off their entire head to spite their face.  And it's not enough that Bob/OU bends them over on the field?  Now off the field OU just f'd them out of $300million?  I, personally, have never been publicly ass raped AND had to give up $300 million dollars.  I can't imagine it feels good.
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« Reply #13495 on: September 20, 2011, 08:40:47 PM »
yeah, put me in the we're f*cked corner again.  


 
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DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: OU officials not confident Texas will meet demands to bring equality to Big 12 by making changes to the Longhorn Network.
13 minutes ago »

 DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: OU regents pushing for Pac-12, Boren undecided, hopes to get answers from Deaton,& CEOs about changes needed to stay in Big 12.
21 minutes ago

» DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: Boren & Deaton to meet this week. OU expects to have a decision by end of the week.
24 minutes ago


THAT makes you think we're mumped? man.

it doesn't take much. you should have seen me when BYU went up 12-2 to start the game.

Didn't OK_Cat say Sittler was full of crap?

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« Reply #13496 on: September 20, 2011, 08:40:59 PM »
To continue my earlier post, the only weakness UT has is that they badly, badly want to be perceived as the good guy while they step on everyone's faces. This is why you see this huge media blitz coming out of Austin and from Chip Brown. But don't mistake that need to be liked as something that will temper their actions, they'll gladly nuke EMAW from orbit and get vilified by everyone but ESPN if they can't win the PR war.

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« Reply #13497 on: September 20, 2011, 08:41:26 PM »
yeah, put me in the we're f*cked corner again.  


 
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DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: OU officials not confident Texas will meet demands to bring equality to Big 12 by making changes to the Longhorn Network.
13 minutes ago »

 DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: OU regents pushing for Pac-12, Boren undecided, hopes to get answers from Deaton,& CEOs about changes needed to stay in Big 12.
21 minutes ago

» DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: Boren & Deaton to meet this week. OU expects to have a decision by end of the week.
24 minutes ago


THAT makes you think we're mumped? man.

it doesn't take much. you should have seen me when BYU went up 12-2 to start the game.

I was a combination of  :runaway: and  :curse:

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« Reply #13498 on: September 20, 2011, 08:42:53 PM »
IF the Big 12 survives (sans the bonfires), it would seem kinda weird/odd to go kill the big east.  I hope we're nice. 

Pitt and 'Cuse already killed it. we might as well be the first to 16 and two BCS births

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« Reply #13499 on: September 20, 2011, 08:46:07 PM »
this didn't exactly turn on a dime out of nowhere.  it happened right after ou showed it was as serious about leaving as it could possisbly be with the regents meeting but still before the pac presidents have the chance to vote no.  they're right where they want to be to negotiate.