Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[Rage Against the McKee]

This may belong in another thread, but whatever:

What would it take to make the Big 12 "stable"? Just eliminating the LHN? Equal revenue for Tier 1 and Tier 2 media rights? Something else?

I thought Tier 1 and 2 rights were now pretty evenly split under last year's deal, and the Tier 3 networks were where revenue was going to be differentiated (along with gate revenues). I'm pretty sure that the schools that are now whining (aTm and OU) are making plenty of money under the new system, and the LHN is the only bone of contention.

No, Tier 1 and 2 payouts are still affected by how often you get selected for Tier 1 and Tier 2 appearances. It is more balanced than it was, but still not equal.

About 3/4 of the tv revenue is split evenly. The current system seems more fair than any other revenue sharing plan, to me.

[catzacker]

re: Chip's latest.....MacArthur arbitrarily dividing things up worked well for the world over the last 60 years.

[steve dave]

come on stuff, happen already

[kitten_mittons]

come on stuff, happen already

Pac12 HQ is still sleeping.  They won't invite us until at least 10am CDT.

[mcmwcat]

This may belong in another thread, but whatever:

What would it take to make the Big 12 "stable"? Just eliminating the LHN? Equal revenue for Tier 1 and Tier 2 media rights? Something else?

I thought Tier 1 and 2 rights were now pretty evenly split under last year's deal, and the Tier 3 networks were where revenue was going to be differentiated (along with gate revenues). I'm pretty sure that the schools that are now whining (aTm and OU) are making plenty of money under the new system, and the LHN is the only bone of contention.

No, Tier 1 and 2 payouts are still affected by how often you get selected for Tier 1 and Tier 2 appearances. It is more balanced than it was, but still not equal.

on Petro's show, Kerkhoff said the next time these rights are negotiated they will be equal.

[pissclams]

Mipp12 now reporting that OU press conference to be held at 4pm today to announce, K-State tomorrow.  KS BOR already has approved KSU leaving B12.

 

This may belong in another thread, but whatever:

What would it take to make the Big 12 "stable"? Just eliminating the LHN? Equal revenue for Tier 1 and Tier 2 media rights? Something else?

I thought Tier 1 and 2 rights were now pretty evenly split under last year's deal, and the Tier 3 networks were where revenue was going to be differentiated (along with gate revenues). I'm pretty sure that the schools that are now whining (aTm and OU) are making plenty of money under the new system, and the LHN is the only bone of contention.

No, Tier 1 and 2 payouts are still affected by how often you get selected for Tier 1 and Tier 2 appearances. It is more balanced than it was, but still not equal.

on Petro's show, Kerkhoff said the next time these rights are negotiated they will be equal.

no crap, didn't we have this same discussion while i was eating tacos for lunch last week? JFC. 

[WillieWatanabe]

lol @ ksu doing something proactive. more breadsticks please!

[michigancat]

Mipp12 now reporting that OU press conference to be held at 4pm today to announce, K-State tomorrow.  KS BOR already has approved KSU leaving B12.

 

where is this coming from

[Cire]

omg

lol

[Rage Against the McKee]

It's a quiet September afternoon, and Baylor is sitting on the couch quietly, thinking about the changes over the last several years. Baylor has always lived in a humble home, but the neighboring houses have morphed from large houses to mansions. Texas' and Oklahoma's homes, especially. That doesn't really bother Baylor, though. After all, the land value has improved quite considerably. The doorbell rings.

Baylor: Oh, hello, Texas A&M.

A&M: Hi, Gaylor. I need you to sign this.

Baylor: Oh, what is that?

A&M: I've made new friends in the SEC, and they are way cooler than you mommies. This will let me go hang out with them.

Baylor: Why do I have to sign anything for you to make new friends?

A&M: (spits tobacco) Well, see, it's like this Gaylor. You guys suck, and don't even deserve what you have already, so eff you and sign it.

Baylor: (reads document) This says that I will waive my right to sue you for anything you do with your new SEC friends. Well, I'm not sure why I would want to sue you, but this seems pretty strange. (peers over A&M's shoulder) What is that in the driveway?

A&M: Well, see, my new SEC friends gave me this monster truck and bet me that I couldn't jump it over your house. They are so cool! (swallows tobacco in excitement)

Baylor: Do you even know how to drive a monster truck?

A&M: (stares blankly)

Baylor: I'm not signing that document, and if you destroy my house, I will have my friend, Ken Starr, sue you for every dime your worthless ass possesses.

A&M: You can't do that! What an bad person!

[WildcatNkilt]

Silicone Valley of Ag Research.  Thank You NBAF!  

Feels good to be part of the PAC-12 smartkids.  

[chum1]

we're posturing

[Stevesie60]

Bob and Brent didn't leave for OU on their own accord. Snyder planted them there.

[yat]

Bob and Brent didn't leave for OU on their own accord. Snyder planted them there.

so blessed

[KITNfury]

Bob and Brent didn't leave for OU on their own accord. Snyder planted them there.

Seriously, who over there is super EMAW that could possibly make this happen. Don't even think Stoops is big enough for that. Will take over CUSA in any event.

Oh, and the meltdown on phog would redefine internet's "epic" definition.

["storm"nut]

I think we just pulled the BV has a deep dark secret card to get us joined at the hip with OU. Way to go Admin.

[mcmwcat]

Mipp12 now reporting that OU press conference to be held at 4pm today to announce, K-State tomorrow.  KS BOR already has approved KSU leaving B12.

 

This may belong in another thread, but whatever:

What would it take to make the Big 12 "stable"? Just eliminating the LHN? Equal revenue for Tier 1 and Tier 2 media rights? Something else?

I thought Tier 1 and 2 rights were now pretty evenly split under last year's deal, and the Tier 3 networks were where revenue was going to be differentiated (along with gate revenues). I'm pretty sure that the schools that are now whining (aTm and OU) are making plenty of money under the new system, and the LHN is the only bone of contention.

No, Tier 1 and 2 payouts are still affected by how often you get selected for Tier 1 and Tier 2 appearances. It is more balanced than it was, but still not equal.

on Petro's show, Kerkhoff said the next time these rights are negotiated they will be equal.

no crap, didn't we have this same discussion while i was eating tacos for lunch last week? JFC. 

yes we did.  just a reminder UT has already conceded this point.  

[Dr Rick Daris]

clams and his mythical mipp12 character are getting me very excited for our impending pac move.

[michigancat]

clams and his mythical mipp12 character are getting me very excited for our impending pac move.

they are a great pair.

[slimz]

Bob and Brent didn't leave for OU on their own accord. Snyder planted them there.

Seriously, who over there is super EMAW that could possibly make this happen. Don't even think Stoops is big enough for that. Will take over CUSA in any event.

Oh, and the meltdown on phog would redefine internet's "epic" definition.

I haven't seen anything saying that OU and K-State are allegedly going to the same conference. Why wouldn't we announce today if we were going the same place as OU?

OU's announcing Pac 12. We're announcing MoVall.

[Pete]

Bob and Brent didn't leave for OU on their own accord. Snyder planted them there.

Seriously, who over there is super EMAW that could possibly make this happen. Don't even think Stoops is big enough for that. Will take over CUSA in any event.

Oh, and the meltdown on phog would redefine internet's "epic" definition.

I haven't seen anything saying that OU and K-State are allegedly going to the same conference. Why wouldn't we announce today if we were going the same place as OU?

OU's announcing Pac 12. We're announcing MoVall.

My guess is that the source meant "Kansas."

[slimz]

Bob and Brent didn't leave for OU on their own accord. Snyder planted them there.

Seriously, who over there is super EMAW that could possibly make this happen. Don't even think Stoops is big enough for that. Will take over CUSA in any event.

Oh, and the meltdown on phog would redefine internet's "epic" definition.

I haven't seen anything saying that OU and K-State are allegedly going to the same conference. Why wouldn't we announce today if we were going the same place as OU?

OU's announcing Pac 12. We're announcing MoVall.

My guess is that the source meant "Kansas."

Also a good guess. They've probably finally made a decision among their options and sent 2 of the 3 planes home.

[catzacker]

any report of OU announcing w/out OSU should be disregarded.  As should any report that mentions KSU going to the Pac-large.

[username]

Realignment has made fools of us all.

[Pete]

Way ahead of you catzacker.  I just disregarded the crap out of that report.  the crap out of it.