Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[steve dave]

Is it possible Baylor has a place to land and thus the SEC is not worried about a lawsuit coming from them? or the other schools that could be Left Behind? All this does is delay this crap till after the Final 4 IMO

no

So A&M is going to be forced to stay because of the Kids (Baylor), Sweet.

No, please shut up.

So, A&M leaves, Baylor does not Sue, signs wavier and dies on the Mid-Major vine?

Baylor may or may not sue but they aren't holding up crap by doing so.  June 30, 2012 will be aTm's last day in the conference.

["storm"nut]

Is it possible Baylor has a place to land and thus the SEC is not worried about a lawsuit coming from them? or the other schools that could be Left Behind? All this does is delay this crap till after the Final 4 IMO

no

So A&M is going to be forced to stay because of the Kids (Baylor), Sweet.

No, please shut up.

So, A&M leaves, Baylor does not Sue, signs wavier and dies on the Mid-Major vine?

Baylor may or may not sue but they aren't holding up crap by doing so.  June 30, 2012 will be aTm's last day in the conference.

So how do they get by the SEC stipulation? No seriously how.

[WildcatNkilt]

Is it possible Baylor has a place to land and thus the SEC is not worried about a lawsuit coming from them? or the other schools that could be Left Behind? All this does is delay this crap till after the Final 4 IMO

no

So A&M is going to be forced to stay because of the Kids (Baylor), Sweet.

No, please shut up.

So, A&M leaves, Baylor does not Sue, signs wavier and dies on the Mid-Major vine?

Baylor may or may not sue but they aren't holding up crap by doing so.  June 30, 2012 will be aTm's last day in the conference.

However A&M would have to go Indy for 2012 season in order for SEC to avoid litigation from Big 12 conference/Baylor?

[CHONGS]

Is it possible Baylor has a place to land and thus the SEC is not worried about a lawsuit coming from them? or the other schools that could be Left Behind? All this does is delay this crap till after the Final 4 IMO

no

So A&M is going to be forced to stay because of the Kids (Baylor), Sweet.

No, please shut up.

So, A&M leaves, Baylor does not Sue, signs wavier and dies on the Mid-Major vine?

Baylor may or may not sue but they aren't holding up crap by doing so.  June 30, 2012 will be aTm's last day in the conference.

So how do they get by the SEC stipulation? No seriously how.

No one sues

[steve dave]

After receiving unanimous written assurance from the Big 12 on September 2 that the Southeastern Conference was free to accept Texas A&M to join as a new member, the presidents and chancellors of the SEC met last night with the intention of accepting the application of Texas A&M to be the newest member of the SEC.

We were notified yesterday afternoon that at least one Big 12 institution had withdrawn its previous consent and was considering legal action.

The SEC has stated that to consider an institution for membership, there must be no contractual hindrances to its departure. The SEC voted unanimously to accept Texas A&M University as a member upon receiving acceptable reconfirmation that the Big 12 and its members have reaffirmed the letter dated September 2, 2011.

[steve dave]

That is laying the groundwork for a defense of any lawsuit Baylor may file, they aren't holding up crap.  

["storm"nut]

Is it possible Baylor has a place to land and thus the SEC is not worried about a lawsuit coming from them? or the other schools that could be Left Behind? All this does is delay this crap till after the Final 4 IMO

no

So A&M is going to be forced to stay because of the Kids (Baylor), Sweet.

No, please shut up.

So, A&M leaves, Baylor does not Sue, signs wavier and dies on the Mid-Major vine?

Baylor may or may not sue but they aren't holding up crap by doing so.  June 30, 2012 will be aTm's last day in the conference.

However A&M would have to go Indy for 2012 season in order for SEC to avoid litigation from Big 12 conference/Baylor?

I guess? but is A&M not in the red as far as there Athletic Department? Could they afford a year with out TV revenues?

[steve dave]

Is it possible Baylor has a place to land and thus the SEC is not worried about a lawsuit coming from them? or the other schools that could be Left Behind? All this does is delay this crap till after the Final 4 IMO

no

So A&M is going to be forced to stay because of the Kids (Baylor), Sweet.

No, please shut up.

So, A&M leaves, Baylor does not Sue, signs wavier and dies on the Mid-Major vine?

Baylor may or may not sue but they aren't holding up crap by doing so.  June 30, 2012 will be aTm's last day in the conference.

However A&M would have to go Indy for 2012 season in order for SEC to avoid litigation from Big 12 conference/Baylor?

I guess? but is A&M not in the red as far as there Athletic Department? Could they afford a year with out TV revenues?

mods, please merge this conversation with every thread on Wabash Station, tia

[OK_Cat]

stormnut really killing this thread with stupid.

["storm"nut]

That is laying the groundwork for a defense of any lawsuit Baylor may file, they aren't holding up crap.  

I got it. Still will not be that simple but I can see the work around. But as with any court hearing all it takes is the right (or left) judge to gum up the works for several years.

[deputy dawg]

stormnut really killing this thread with stupid.

Hope is a hard thing to let go of, so substitute "desperate" for "stupid".

["storm"nut]

stormnut really killing this thread with stupid.

Just doing what Fitz pays me to do.

[KITNfury]

That is laying the groundwork for a defense of any lawsuit Baylor may file, they aren't holding up crap.  

I got it. Still will not be that simple but I can see the work around. But as with any court hearing all it takes is the right (or left) judge to gum up the works for several years.

This would be horrible for us. This conference either needs to blow up this year and we go BE or it needs to stick around for a long time. Otherwise we are completely screwed because in the meantime, the BE will find other football schools and we won't have anywhere to go at that point.

[steve dave]

That is laying the groundwork for a defense of any lawsuit Baylor may file, they aren't holding up crap.  

I got it. Still will not be that simple but I can see the work around. But as with any court hearing all it takes is the right (or left) judge to gum up the works for several years.

This would be horrible for us. This conference either needs to blow up this year and we go BE or it needs to stick around for a long time. Otherwise we are completely screwed because in the meantime, the BE will find other football schools and we won't have anywhere to go at that point.

It wouldn't happen anyway.  The conference (smartly) voted to let them go.  Baylor throwing a fit isn't holding up crap. 

["storm"nut]

That is laying the groundwork for a defense of any lawsuit Baylor may file, they aren't holding up crap.  

I got it. Still will not be that simple but I can see the work around. But as with any court hearing all it takes is the right (or left) judge to gum up the works for several years.

This would be horrible for us. This conference either needs to blow up this year and we go BE or it needs to stick around for a long time. Otherwise we are completely screwed because in the meantime, the BE will find other football schools and we won't have anywhere to go at that point.

Exactly. This will screw us up, big time if this happens. I guess it will be a big game of chicken. Baylor will blink only if they get something out of this.

[TheHamburglar]

Below is the Big12 letter to SEC on Sept. 2nd:

Dear Mike:

This is to confirm our discussion yesterday during which I informed you that the Big 12 Conference Board of Directors unanimously authorized me to convey to you and their colleagues in the Southeastern Conference that the Big 12 and its members will not take any legal action for any possible claims against the SEC or its members relating to the departure of Texas A&M University from the Big 12 and the admission of Texas A&M into the SEC; provided, however, that such act by the SEC to admit Texas A&M is publicly confirmed by 5:00 p.m. (CDT) on September 8, 2011.

Such admission of Texas A&M will result in the withdrawal of Texas A&M from the Big 12 Conference effective June 30, 2012. We both agreed it is in the best interests of each of our conferences and our member institutions of higher education to waive any and all legal actions by either conference and its members resulting from admission of Texas A&M into the SEC, as long as such admission is confirmed publicly by September 8, 2011.

If any of your presidents and chancellors have concerns about this commitment of the Big 12 Conference, they may contact me or Brady Deaton, Big 12 Board of Director chairman and chancellor of the University of Missouri, Columbia.

Sincerely,

Dan Beebe
Commissioner

[420seriouscat69]

I'm over it! Just got word that the Big East wants us because of the salute, and our heated storied rival with Syracuse. That sly son of a bitch Hilburn knew what he was doing all along!

[OK_Cat]

That is laying the groundwork for a defense of any lawsuit Baylor may file, they aren't holding up crap.  

I got it. Still will not be that simple but I can see the work around. But as with any court hearing all it takes is the right (or left) judge to gum up the works for several years.

This would be horrible for us. This conference either needs to blow up this year and we go BE or it needs to stick around for a long time. Otherwise we are completely screwed because in the meantime, the BE will find other football schools and we won't have anywhere to go at that point.

Exactly. This will screw us up, big time if this happens. I guess it will be a big game of chicken. Baylor will blink only if they get something out of this.

Hey, dumbass:  the Big12 told A&M that nobody is going to sue them.  So, like, guess what?  Nobody is going to sue them.  JFC.

[CHONGS]

Is K-State at the minimum for number of sports programs to be considered DI? (I think so...)

[slimz]

That is laying the groundwork for a defense of any lawsuit Baylor may file, they aren't holding up crap.  

I got it. Still will not be that simple but I can see the work around. But as with any court hearing all it takes is the right (or left) judge to gum up the works for several years.

This would be horrible for us. This conference either needs to blow up this year and we go BE or it needs to stick around for a long time. Otherwise we are completely screwed because in the meantime, the BE will find other football schools and we won't have anywhere to go at that point.

Exactly. This will screw us up, big time if this happens. I guess it will be a big game of chicken. Baylor will blink only if they get something out of this.

Hey, dumbass:  the Big12 told A&M that nobody is going to sue them.  So, like, guess what?  Nobody is going to sue them.  JFC.

The Big 12 sent the letter on September 2. If OU started making noise on September 3, then Baylor could be seeing things in a different light. Whether that leads to an actual lawsuit is another matter.

[Rage Against the McKee]

So how many millions of dollars is K-State due to lose at this point in time (even in the best case Big East scenario)?

Not known considering Big East television contracts will be restructured. 

I think it's somewhat safe to say that we will make as much (maybe more) as we are currently making, but nowhere close to as much as we would have made with the new Big 12 contracts.

["storm"nut]

That is laying the groundwork for a defense of any lawsuit Baylor may file, they aren't holding up crap.  

I got it. Still will not be that simple but I can see the work around. But as with any court hearing all it takes is the right (or left) judge to gum up the works for several years.

This would be horrible for us. This conference either needs to blow up this year and we go BE or it needs to stick around for a long time. Otherwise we are completely screwed because in the meantime, the BE will find other football schools and we won't have anywhere to go at that point.

Exactly. This will screw us up, big time if this happens. I guess it will be a big game of chicken. Baylor will blink only if they get something out of this.

Hey, dumbass:  the Big12 told A&M that nobody is going to sue them.  So, like, guess what?  Nobody is going to sue them.  JFC.

The Big 12 sent the letter on September 2. If OU started making noise on September 3, then Baylor could be seeing things in a different light.

Then why the change of heart on OUs part?

eff it. Lets go east Big East or ACC.

[gokatgo]

Is K-State at the minimum for number of sports programs to be considered DI? (I think so...)

We will need to add lacrosse and field hockey to compete in Big East.

GET YOUR WICKETS READY!!!

[steve dave]

Is K-State at the minimum for number of sports programs to be considered DI? (I think so...)

We will need to add lacrosse and field hockey to compete in Big East.

GET YOUR WICKETS READY!!!

OMG, would love to add lacrosse 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Is K-State at the minimum for number of sports programs to be considered DI? (I think so...)

We probably are, but we can still cut costs (looking at you, Deb).