Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[michigancat]

heh

Pac-12 expansion could happen soon. If it does, divisional alignment will be a major problem for Colorado if it's in the same division as the Texas and Oklahoma schools.
"I'm not happy at all if we go that way," Benson said. "I'm sure I'll make a lot of noise."

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_18834617

that was funny

[KITNfury]

getting a feeler from the big east felt good, but a second feeler from another conference would feel even better.  

From personal experience, the most important part of receiving feelers depends on where I was felt. From whom comes in 2nd.

[Dr Rick Daris]

heh

Pac-12 expansion could happen soon. If it does, divisional alignment will be a major problem for Colorado if it's in the same division as the Texas and Oklahoma schools.
"I'm not happy at all if we go that way," Benson said. "I'm sure I'll make a lot of noise."

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_18834617

dear god. just what did he think was going to happen last year when there was talk of all the same schools going? the lack of foresight from people that seem like they should be fairly smart based on their titles is absolutely mind boggling. also, wtf is going to care what that guy thinks. nobody else in the pac i can assure you of that.

[Paul Moscow]

COLLEGE PARK, Md. -- It's all about Nov. 1, 2012.
That's the date the Big East Conference becomes a TV free agent. The league's goal is to be able to present such a solid, far-reaching and valuable product that it lands a deal in the neighborhood of the $4 billion package recently signed by the Pac-12.
So when you hear Big East and wonder why schools such as Missouri, Kansas and Kansas State are being mentioned, think Midwest TV markets. Maps are just a piece of paper with lines.
With Texas A&M poised to join the SEC, the Big East is looking to add those three Big 12 schools and grow to 12 football schools and swell to 20 in basketball.

If that seems unwieldy, think outside the box.

The Big East has studied the creation of four five-team divisions in basketball and two divisions -- East and West -- in football, The Post has learned.
In basketball it could mean each school having home-and-home games with the other four schools in its division and then playing crossover games from schools in other divisions. Some schools wouldn't play each other in a given year.
Football would split along geographical lines with Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Cincinnati, Louisville and TCU in the West Division, and UConn, Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt, South Florida and West Virginia in the East.

Division winners would meet in a true conference championship game, with a BCS bowl game on the line.
The basketball splits likely would create some division but unless the non-FBS football schools (Georgetown, St. John's, et al) are willing to risk the very real possibility of the FBS football-playing schools breaking away, they'll agree to expansion and the new formats.
The non-football schools are very willing to accommodate the football schools for the sake of the league, several sources told The Post. A big check from TV revenue would assuage any hurt feelings.

These changes, of course, hinge on the Big 12 falling apart, which seems likely. With Texas A&M headed to the SEC, the Big 12 is down to nine schools with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech likely leaving for the Pac-12.
When one considers the Pac-12 would then grow to 16 teams in football and basketball, the 12-and-20 makeup of the Big East doesn't seem so radical.
John Swofford, commissioner of the ACC, all but shot down a report out of Austin that his league was interested in taking Rutgers, Syracuse, UConn and Texas.
He also alluded to the reason why the Big 12 is in trouble is because of the Longhorn Network and the uneven distribution of TV monies.
Swofford was asked if he would bring in any entity that created uneven distribution.

"I don't think that you ever say never about anything these days but that has been a very strong principle in our league since the middle '80s," he said. "I think that it's one that has a lot to do with the stability of conferences."

The two main potential stumbling blocks focus on Missouri. Missouri dearly covets an invite from the Big Ten, which recently invited Nebraska and showed little interest in the Tigers. That could change, though the Big Ten has only added two schools -- Penn State and Nebraska -- in the last 30 years.

The second scenario has Missouri going to the SEC as that school's 14th member. But Missouri does not see a good cultural fit with the SEC and might prefer the Big East. But by coming to the Big East with Kansas and K-State, Missouri maintains its relationship with two rivals.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/football/big_east_thinking_big_ou8JdQKJUhWEeCUtGv7dNP#ixzz1XBvOHvRG

[Rage Against the McKee]

getting a feeler from the big east felt good, but a second feeler from another conference would feel even better.  

It's always nice having feelers feel you up, but I would honestly prefer going to the Big East with KU and MU than the Pac Whatever with just KU. We need to maintain regional rivalries if possible.

[Trim]

I wish the articles that get posted and linked here were written more with _FAN's straight-to-the-bottom style.

[WillieWatanabe]

It feels kind of good to be wanted by somebody.   

[Acceleration Man]

COLLEGE PARK, Md. -- It's all about Nov. 1, 2012.
That's the date the Big East Conference becomes a TV free agent. The league's goal is to be able to present such a solid, far-reaching and valuable product that it lands a deal in the neighborhood of the $4 billion package recently signed by the Pac-12.
So when you hear Big East and wonder why schools such as Missouri, Kansas and Kansas State are being mentioned, think Midwest TV markets. Maps are just a piece of paper with lines.
With Texas A&M poised to join the SEC, the Big East is looking to add those three Big 12 schools and grow to 12 football schools and swell to 20 in basketball.

If that seems unwieldy, think outside the box.

The Big East has studied the creation of four five-team divisions in basketball and two divisions -- East and West -- in football, The Post has learned.
In basketball it could mean each school having home-and-home games with the other four schools in its division and then playing crossover games from schools in other divisions. Some schools wouldn't play each other in a given year.
Football would split along geographical lines with Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Cincinnati, Louisville and TCU in the West Division, and UConn, Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt, South Florida and West Virginia in the East.

Division winners would meet in a true conference championship game, with a BCS bowl game on the line.
The basketball splits likely would create some division but unless the non-FBS football schools (Georgetown, St. John's, et al) are willing to risk the very real possibility of the FBS football-playing schools breaking away, they'll agree to expansion and the new formats.
The non-football schools are very willing to accommodate the football schools for the sake of the league, several sources told The Post. A big check from TV revenue would assuage any hurt feelings.

These changes, of course, hinge on the Big 12 falling apart, which seems likely. With Texas A&M headed to the SEC, the Big 12 is down to nine schools with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech likely leaving for the Pac-12.
When one considers the Pac-12 would then grow to 16 teams in football and basketball, the 12-and-20 makeup of the Big East doesn't seem so radical.
John Swofford, commissioner of the ACC, all but shot down a report out of Austin that his league was interested in taking Rutgers, Syracuse, UConn and Texas.
He also alluded to the reason why the Big 12 is in trouble is because of the Longhorn Network and the uneven distribution of TV monies.
Swofford was asked if he would bring in any entity that created uneven distribution.

"I don't think that you ever say never about anything these days but that has been a very strong principle in our league since the middle '80s," he said. "I think that it's one that has a lot to do with the stability of conferences."

The two main potential stumbling blocks focus on Missouri. Missouri dearly covets an invite from the Big Ten, which recently invited Nebraska and showed little interest in the Tigers. That could change, though the Big Ten has only added two schools -- Penn State and Nebraska -- in the last 30 years.

The second scenario has Missouri going to the SEC as that school's 14th member. But Missouri does not see a good cultural fit with the SEC and might prefer the Big East. But by coming to the Big East with Kansas and K-State, Missouri maintains its relationship with two rivals.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/football/big_east_thinking_big_ou8JdQKJUhWEeCUtGv7dNP#ixzz1XBvOHvRG

Would take. Love how options and negotiations are changing about every 5 minutes. Makes for great entertainment.

[ew2x4]

http://www.baylor.edu/nation/index.php?id=84714

It's on now.

Stop posting please, thx.

nope

Please reconsider.

did. will keep posting till dead. Can't IP block me devs. Not all of them

If not stopping posting, then please post better. Can't deal with 2 jtksu's. thx.

[steve dave]

I demand that the other four members of our hoops pod be KU, MU, Cincy and WVU.  DEMAND.

[michigancat]

I demand that the other four members of our hoops pod be KU, MU, Cincy and WVU.  DEMAND.

oh, man, would that be somethin'.

[pike]

I demand that the other four members of our hoops pod be KU, MU, Cincy and WVU.  DEMAND.

oh, man, would that be somethin'.

Would almost guarantee a spot in the tournament each year. "But, they play in the toughest pod!" 

[pissclams]

i'm pretty sure we're still going to the sec, not sure why some of you idiots continue to believe all of the Big East bullcrap.  it's nothing but 100% bullcrap.  

["storm"nut]

http://www.baylor.edu/nation/index.php?id=84714

It's on now.

Stop posting please, thx.

nope

Please reconsider.

did. will keep posting till dead. Can't IP block me devs. Not all of them

If not stopping posting, then please post better. Can't deal with 2 jtksu's. thx.

Did not realize I was that bad. Would take pointers.

[chum1]

being in the weakest aq conference would be like the best of both worlds for us.

[Brock Landers]

getting a feeler from the big east felt good, but a second feeler from another conference would feel even better.  

It's always nice having feelers feel you up, but I would honestly prefer going to the Big East with KU and MU than the Pac Whatever with just KU. We need to maintain regional rivalries if possible.

We must not allow ourselves to fall behind UK in a Feeler Gap!!

[steve dave]

The Spint Center can look forward to hosting exclusively ACDC concerts and those horses that dance from here on out. 

[wabash909]

Do we still get to the go to the Big East even when the PAC-16 gobbles up KU?

Need a good answer on this.

[steve dave]

Do we still get to the go to the Big East even when the PAC-16 gobbles up KU?

Need a good answer on this.

I vote yes

[michigancat]

Do we still get to the go to the Big East even when the PAC-16 gobbles up KU?

Need a good answer on this.

yes, although the pac won't take KU without us.

[deputy dawg]

A little different thought:
What if the conference comes apart, but there is a core of schools that want to keep it together?  How many schools have to be in the conference to keep it alive, and if so, has the weak schools of us, ku, Iowa State, and Baylor set up a contingency plan of inviting other schools into the conference to keep it viable, if for nothing else, to collect the exit fees of the departing schools?

[KITNfury]

I think what's more scary is the thought of the conference hanging around for 2 more years, and then imploding. By that time, there's a good chance the BE has picked up some smaller schools for football and are filled to the brim for basketball. At that point, we'd be completely screwed, meanwhile, every school that has options now will probably have them later.

[Dr Rick Daris]

A little different thought:
What if the conference comes apart, but there is a core of schools that want to keep it together?  How many schools have to be in the conference to keep it alive, and if so, has the weak schools of us, ku, Iowa State, and Baylor set up a contingency plan of inviting other schools into the conference to keep it viable, if for nothing else, to collect the exit fees of the departing schools?

yeah. this has been discussed multiple times. included sometime back in the hundreds i think. my understanding (could be wrong) is that there needs to be five original members for there to still be a conference. ku, kstate, mu, isu and baylor would do the trick. guess we'll see. there is heavy mu to sec smoke.

[Houstoncat93]

A little different thought:
What if the conference comes apart, but there is a core of schools that want to keep it together?  How many schools have to be in the conference to keep it alive, and if so, has the weak schools of us, ku, Iowa State, and Baylor set up a contingency plan of inviting other schools into the conference to keep it viable, if for nothing else, to collect the exit fees of the departing schools?

yeah. this has been discussed multiple times. included sometime back in the hundreds i think. my understanding (could be wrong) is that there needs to be five original members for there to still be a conference. ku, kstate, mu, isu and baylor would do the trick. guess we'll see. there is heavy mu to sec smoke.

That number was what the NCAA says you have to be for them to recognize you as a conference.  I think the legal entity known as the big 12 survives and could still fight legal battles over exit fees with even one member.

[steve dave]

a conference made up of that group of loser schools and the even loserier schools we could draw in would be just awful.  do not want.