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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #30500 on: September 10, 2019, 04:51:35 PM »
I hated it at every level.

One level I hated is how everyone seemed to just take it as a given that, of course, state university athletic departments should absolutely try to make as much money as they possibly can. FUUUUUUUCK that.

It was worse than that. People that call themselves fans of teams so internalized the profit motive-logic that was driving the actors in this that they were actually rooting for it. It wasn't people just familiarizing themselves with the terms of what was being done to them, but celebrating their own conference's destruction without even questioning it.
Exactly this.  It drove me crazy.

I think it was that fans of programs like MU and A&M wanted "we're desired and you're [KU/UT respectively] not."  So shortsighted and stupid.

Drove (drives?) ku fans nuts though
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« Reply #30501 on: September 11, 2019, 04:23:46 PM »
I hated it at every level.

One level I hated is how everyone seemed to just take it as a given that, of course, state university athletic departments should absolutely try to make as much money as they possibly can. FUUUUUUUCK that.

It was worse than that. People that call themselves fans of teams so internalized the profit motive-logic that was driving the actors in this that they were actually rooting for it. It wasn't people just familiarizing themselves with the terms of what was being done to them, but celebrating their own conference's destruction without even questioning it.
Exactly this.  It drove me crazy.

I think it was that fans of programs like MU and A&M wanted "we're desired and you're [KU/UT respectively] not."  So shortsighted and stupid.
I fee like it has worked out fairly well for aTm, am I wrong?
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« Reply #30502 on: September 11, 2019, 04:51:51 PM »
I hated it at every level.

One level I hated is how everyone seemed to just take it as a given that, of course, state university athletic departments should absolutely try to make as much money as they possibly can. FUUUUUUUCK that.

It was worse than that. People that call themselves fans of teams so internalized the profit motive-logic that was driving the actors in this that they were actually rooting for it. It wasn't people just familiarizing themselves with the terms of what was being done to them, but celebrating their own conference's destruction without even questioning it.
Exactly this.  It drove me crazy.

I think it was that fans of programs like MU and A&M wanted "we're desired and you're [KU/UT respectively] not."  So shortsighted and stupid.
I fee like it has worked out fairly well for aTm, am I wrong?

I don't think they are any better or worse off than they were. If I were a fan, I would be upset about not being able to play Texas anymore, but their fans are pretty weird, so maybe they like that.

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« Reply #30503 on: September 12, 2019, 10:24:06 AM »
A&M fans are like Trump supporters. They think whatever the school does is the greatest thing in the world and everyone else is just jealous they didn’t think of it/don’t have the balls to do it themselves.

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« Reply #30504 on: September 13, 2019, 10:36:13 AM »
 I thought you were supposed to remove the band BEFORE you smoked them.
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« Reply #30506 on: October 23, 2019, 12:15:12 PM »
Chaboy Greg

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« Reply #30507 on: October 23, 2019, 04:38:48 PM »
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« Reply #30508 on: October 24, 2019, 04:51:25 AM »
A&M fans are like Trump supporters. They think whatever the school does is the greatest thing in the world and everyone else is just jealous they didn’t think of it/don’t have the balls to do it themselves.

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« Reply #30509 on: October 24, 2019, 06:41:08 AM »
A&M fans are like Trump supporters. They think whatever the school does is the greatest thing in the world and everyone else is just jealous they didn’t think of it/don’t have the balls to do it themselves.

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« Reply #30510 on: October 24, 2019, 06:43:54 AM »
I hated it at every level.

One level I hated is how everyone seemed to just take it as a given that, of course, state university athletic departments should absolutely try to make as much money as they possibly can. FUUUUUUUCK that.

It was worse than that. People that call themselves fans of teams so internalized the profit motive-logic that was driving the actors in this that they were actually rooting for it. It wasn't people just familiarizing themselves with the terms of what was being done to them, but celebrating their own conference's destruction without even questioning it.
Exactly this.  It drove me crazy.

I think it was that fans of programs like MU and A&M wanted "we're desired and you're [KU/UT respectively] not."  So shortsighted and stupid.
I fee like it has worked out fairly well for aTm, am I wrong?

I don't think they are any better or worse off than they were. If I were a fan, I would be upset about not being able to play Texas anymore, but their fans are pretty weird, so maybe they like that.

Fiscally, they are a little better off now than they were in the Big XII. The future of the program though, is much worse. They'll never be able to pass Alabama or LSU and instead, will simply be fighting Auburn or Arkansas for 3rd/4th place in their division annually.

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« Reply #30511 on: October 24, 2019, 06:48:32 AM »
I hated it at every level.

One level I hated is how everyone seemed to just take it as a given that, of course, state university athletic departments should absolutely try to make as much money as they possibly can. FUUUUUUUCK that.

It was worse than that. People that call themselves fans of teams so internalized the profit motive-logic that was driving the actors in this that they were actually rooting for it. It wasn't people just familiarizing themselves with the terms of what was being done to them, but celebrating their own conference's destruction without even questioning it.

I can't say it any better than these two quotes right here. Nebraska, more than anything, has banished themselves to a barren wasteland of football purgatory never to return until they likely leave the conference, which I doubt will happen. Don't worry though Nubs, you showed Texas and got that $$$ check.

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« Reply #30512 on: October 24, 2019, 08:33:21 AM »
out of all the teams that left the conference (i'm not factoring in Colorado since i don't know anything about the pac12) Nebraska got into the best division of the 3 teams.  Wisconsin is really the only "powerhouse" in that division, it was set up for them to come in and do something right away and Pelini won 9 or 10 games every year for 7 years and it wasn't good enough because Nebraska fans are still stuck in the 90's, afraid of Y2K.  I love it all.

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« Reply #30513 on: October 24, 2019, 09:48:13 AM »
I hated it at every level.

One level I hated is how everyone seemed to just take it as a given that, of course, state university athletic departments should absolutely try to make as much money as they possibly can. FUUUUUUUCK that.

It was worse than that. People that call themselves fans of teams so internalized the profit motive-logic that was driving the actors in this that they were actually rooting for it. It wasn't people just familiarizing themselves with the terms of what was being done to them, but celebrating their own conference's destruction without even questioning it.
Exactly this.  It drove me crazy.

I think it was that fans of programs like MU and A&M wanted "we're desired and you're [KU/UT respectively] not."  So shortsighted and stupid.
I fee like it has worked out fairly well for aTm, am I wrong?

I don't think they are any better or worse off than they were. If I were a fan, I would be upset about not being able to play Texas anymore, but their fans are pretty weird, so maybe they like that.

Fiscally, they are a little better off now than they were in the Big XII. The future of the program though, is much worse. They'll never be able to pass Alabama or LSU and instead, will simply be fighting Auburn or Arkansas for 3rd/4th place in their division annually.

They also were never going to be able to pass Oklahoma or Texas in the Big 12.

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« Reply #30514 on: October 24, 2019, 01:40:17 PM »
A&M and their weird-ass fanbase is an outlier in any data set of conference changes.  They are just too strange/unique/delusional.

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« Reply #30515 on: March 04, 2020, 06:29:37 AM »
Sure! It's a fun thread. Let's keep it going!

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« Reply #30516 on: March 04, 2020, 08:38:05 AM »
So, does the Big 12 get rid of Baylor and another school in order to pick up the Arizona schools?  Or does the Big 12 try to add the AZ schools  and get our conference back to 12 teams?  (Assuming AZ schools are or can be put into  play).

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« Reply #30517 on: March 04, 2020, 09:00:46 AM »
Sean will bring the LA schools to the b12
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« Reply #30518 on: March 04, 2020, 09:09:07 AM »
I don't know what it takes to read that thing, but this summary is from reddit:

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TL;DR Between now and when the Pac-12’s media rights deal — and accompanying Grant of Rights agreement — runs out in spring 2024, the Big 12 needs to invite USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Arizona and Arizona State. They very well might do it.

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« Reply #30519 on: March 04, 2020, 09:12:35 AM »
drop wv and baylor, grab az schools and usc/ucla

Southwest div

USC
UCLA
ASU
AU
TT
Texas

Northeast

OU
OSU
KU
KSU
ISU
TCU

or you flop TCU and Texas if Texas would rather have that.

Or you boot TCU, and have the Big11 with 10 game round robin for football and 20 for bball.

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« Reply #30520 on: March 04, 2020, 09:14:31 AM »
USC
UCLA
ASU
Arizona
Texas
Tech

OU
OSU
KU
K-State
ISU
Colorado

this has the flavors i crave if we go past 10, but i don't want to get rid of the round robin

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« Reply #30521 on: March 04, 2020, 09:18:31 AM »
Weren't Texas and UCLA all horny to play in the same division years ago?

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« Reply #30522 on: March 04, 2020, 09:21:43 AM »
That's what i'm saying, it will give Texas fans trips to cali/az, not sure OU will be down.  Colorado is the only team that left the 12 i want back.

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« Reply #30523 on: March 04, 2020, 09:27:58 AM »
We should kick Baylor and TCU out. Don't invite WSU, Utah, Colorado, and Cal. Each division plays a 7 game round robin with 2 cross division games that don't count for division standing except to break a 3 way tie. Champs play in a CCG.

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« Reply #30524 on: March 04, 2020, 09:28:41 AM »
We can't actually kick anyone out, though. Too mean.