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ESPN to pay UT $12 Million per to broadcast Longhorn Network.
« Reply #6400 on: November 05, 2010, 12:51:43 PM »
November 5, 2010

Texas' Longhorn Network to cash in thanks to ESPN
Chip Brown
Orangebloods.com Columnist

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One of the reasons Texas walked away from an invitation to join the Pac-10 in June was because it would have to relinquish its plans to launch its own network.

That is turning out to be a very smart decision.

According to multiple sources, Texas stands to increase its TV revenue by $12 million per year thanks to an agreement reached with ESPN to distribute the Longhorn Network on cable systems beginning in the fall of 2011.

The sources said the deal is for 10 years and guarantees Texas $12 million annually on top of the TV revenue UT would receive as part of the Big 12's current television contracts with ABC/ESPN and Fox.

Texas is expected to earn roughly $17 million in 2011-12 and $20 million beginning in 2012-13 just from its portion of the Big 12 television money.

Those figures are based on projections for the Big 12's new cable TV package, which is up for bid beginning in April (currently held by Fox), as well as an agreement reached in the summer with ABC/ESPN.

During June's college realignment, ABC/ESPN told the Big 12 it would continue to pay the conference as a 12-team league with a championship game despite the Big 12 losing Nebraska to the Big Ten and Colorado to the Pac-10 and losing its title game beginning in 2011.

ABC/ESPN could have utilized an option that allowed it to cut its payment to the Big 12 by $20 million ($10 million per school) because of Nebraska and Colorado leaving the league. But the television network did not do so.

The new agreement between Texas and ESPN for the Longhorn Network includes a $10 million payment up front, sources said. It also would make Texas the top TV revenue-producing school in the country, earning close to $30 million next year in TV revenue and more than $32 million beginning in 2012-13, sources said.

Schools in the SEC currently earn $17 million per year in TV revenue under 15-year contracts with ABC/ESPN and CBS that began in the fall of 2009. Big Ten schools currently earn roughly $20 million per year from the Big Ten Network in a 20-year contract with operating partner Fox that began in August 2007.

According to sources, Fox had guaranteed Texas $2 million per year to distribute the Longhorn Network to cable systems that included at least 500,000 viewers. Then, ESPN came in and provided a bid six times larger with a viewership that reaches from coast-to-coast, sources said.

Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds told Orangebloods.com in August he hoped the Longhorn Network would bring the school roughly "$3 million annually with an opportunity for growth depending on its success."

According to sources, Texas has exceeded that goal by four times before even launching the network, which will happen in the fall of 2011, sources said.

Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott told the Big 12 schools he was courting in June (Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado) they would receive $20 million in TV revenue as part of a conference network if they went west.

Texas would have had to give up plans for its own network because the conference network proposed by Scott would have required "all rights in," sources said.

Two Big 12 sources told Orangebloods.com Scott's numbers were overly aggressive, and that the TV revenue would have been closer to $18 million per school.

In either case, Texas has the chance to dwarf the numbers it would have earned in the Pac-10 with its anticipated combined haul in Big 12 TV revenue and its new deal with ESPN for the Longhorn Network.

The only thing holding up a formal announcement is a vote of the Texas Board of Regents, which will happen either later this month or in December.

UT and ESPN officials declined comment.
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Re: ESPN to pay UT $12 Million per to broadcast Longhorn Network.
« Reply #6401 on: November 05, 2010, 12:56:30 PM »
Mother of god. Hope Currie is working on the PBS deal as we speak.
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Re: ESPN to pay UT $12 Million per to broadcast Longhorn Network.
« Reply #6402 on: November 05, 2010, 12:58:43 PM »
This all but solidifies the Big 12 (10) IMO for at least another decade.

As things stand right now, why would they want to go anywhere else?

They get this deal, a pretty strong conference TV/Bowl Deal and they can then offer a higher level of content for this network (which will likely show all Texas events that aren't picked up by the Big 12 TV deal, so likely a number of basketball games and minor sports events, maybe a football game or two) by staying in a conference that people have come to know, and that offers geographic rivalries that people who watch something like the Longhorn Network are interested in.


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Re: ESPN to pay UT $12 Million per to broadcast Longhorn Network.
« Reply #6403 on: November 05, 2010, 12:59:33 PM »
Feels great to be a part of the CTR right now, days like this make me so proud to be semi-Horn.


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Re: ESPN to pay UT $12 Million per to broadcast Longhorn Network.
« Reply #6404 on: November 05, 2010, 01:17:46 PM »
This all but solidifies the Big 12 (10) IMO for at least another decade.

As things stand right now, why would they want to go anywhere else?

They get this deal, a pretty strong conference TV/Bowl Deal and they can then offer a higher level of content for this network (which will likely show all Texas events that aren't picked up by the Big 12 TV deal, so likely a number of basketball games and minor sports events, maybe a football game or two) by staying in a conference that people have come to know, and that offers geographic rivalries that people who watch something like the Longhorn Network are interested in.



Also, I think this is actually a nice little carrot to dangle out in front of Notre Dame as well should their independence not be as profitable as it once was.

It's a long shot, but it has to give them some amount of pause.  ND could be guaranteed the $20 million cut + the ND network, which would probably net more than the Texas Network.  In two years, their TV revenue could be in the neighborhood of 35-40 million annually.  I don't know what it is now, but that is a gigantic chunk of change, plus they would have a more relevant home for their non-revenue sports than the Big East.

I'm probably acting like a naive idiot, but I think there's a significant amount of business sense for them to join the Big 12.  If they were to hop over, you'd almost have to imagine Arkansas could be compelled as well.

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Re: ESPN to pay UT $12 Million per to broadcast Longhorn Network.
« Reply #6405 on: November 05, 2010, 01:31:56 PM »
Maybe we could guarantee the Longhorns TV time on the Wildcat network in exchange for a portion of the Longhorn network...say between the times of 2am and 6am.

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Re: ESPN to pay UT $12 Million per to broadcast Longhorn Network.
« Reply #6406 on: November 05, 2010, 01:35:23 PM »
So Fox bid 2 mil and ESPN counter bid 12 mil?

You'd think with all that poker they show on tv, ESPN would be better at this.

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Re: ESPN to pay UT $12 Million per to broadcast Longhorn Network.
« Reply #6407 on: November 05, 2010, 02:29:25 PM »
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6408 on: November 05, 2010, 02:40:37 PM »
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Re: ESPN to pay UT $12 Million per to broadcast Longhorn Network.
« Reply #6409 on: November 05, 2010, 02:44:18 PM »
This all but solidifies the Big 12 (10) IMO for at least another decade.

As things stand right now, why would they want to go anywhere else?

They get this deal, a pretty strong conference TV/Bowl Deal and they can then offer a higher level of content for this network (which will likely show all Texas events that aren't picked up by the Big 12 TV deal, so likely a number of basketball games and minor sports events, maybe a football game or two) by staying in a conference that people have come to know, and that offers geographic rivalries that people who watch something like the Longhorn Network are interested in.



Also, I think this is actually a nice little carrot to dangle out in front of Notre Dame as well should their independence not be as profitable as it once was.

It's a long shot, but it has to give them some amount of pause.  ND could be guaranteed the $20 million cut + the ND network, which would probably net more than the Texas Network.  In two years, their TV revenue could be in the neighborhood of 35-40 million annually.  I don't know what it is now, but that is a gigantic chunk of change, plus they would have a more relevant home for their non-revenue sports than the Big East.

I'm probably acting like a naive idiot, but I think there's a significant amount of business sense for them to join the Big 12.  If they were to hop over, you'd almost have to imagine Arkansas could be compelled as well.


I'm pretty sure it's around $13-14 mil.  You'd have to think this would be extremely enticing to them.  It's probably a pipe dream, but still the possibility of at least a 50% increase( taking the same route as Texas) would have them thinking about it much harder than the 30% increase of joining the Big 10. 

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Re: ESPN to pay UT $12 Million per to broadcast Longhorn Network.
« Reply #6410 on: November 05, 2010, 04:52:03 PM »
This all but solidifies the Big 12 (10) IMO for at least another decade.

As things stand right now, why would they want to go anywhere else?

They get this deal, a pretty strong conference TV/Bowl Deal and they can then offer a higher level of content for this network (which will likely show all Texas events that aren't picked up by the Big 12 TV deal, so likely a number of basketball games and minor sports events, maybe a football game or two) by staying in a conference that people have come to know, and that offers geographic rivalries that people who watch something like the Longhorn Network are interested in.



Also, I think this is actually a nice little carrot to dangle out in front of Notre Dame as well should their independence not be as profitable as it once was.

It's a long shot, but it has to give them some amount of pause.  ND could be guaranteed the $20 million cut + the ND network, which would probably net more than the Texas Network.  In two years, their TV revenue could be in the neighborhood of 35-40 million annually.  I don't know what it is now, but that is a gigantic chunk of change, plus they would have a more relevant home for their non-revenue sports than the Big East.

I'm probably acting like a naive idiot, but I think there's a significant amount of business sense for them to join the Big 12.  If they were to hop over, you'd almost have to imagine Arkansas could be compelled as well.

I miss this type of wild imaginative thinking that manifested itself this summer, we could be the conference of individual networks and hanger ons.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6411 on: November 05, 2010, 06:24:08 PM »
This means that everyone in the country will now be subsidizing Texas Athletics by paying a fee to their cable company.  In reality, I get the feeling that somebody is going to make a lot of money on this boondoggle, but it probably won't be UT. 

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« Reply #6412 on: November 05, 2010, 07:51:12 PM »
Yeah, it looks like UT is totally getting hosed on this deal.  :facepalm:

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« Reply #6413 on: November 06, 2010, 06:13:07 AM »
This means that everyone in the country will now be subsidizing Texas Athletics by paying a fee to their cable company.  In reality, I get the feeling that somebody is going to make a lot of money on this boondoggle, but it probably won't be UT. 

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« Reply #6414 on: November 06, 2010, 11:01:31 AM »
Our dominance of Texas just got them some coin.  Can't wait to own Notre Dame in the same way.

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« Reply #6415 on: November 06, 2010, 11:09:49 AM »
Our dominance of Texas just got them some coin.  Can't wait to own Notre Dame in the same way.

This would be fantastic.  Have always disliked ND.  Would be amazing to get to own them in FB and BB annually.  

I hope that they don't adjust any entrance standards if they do come.

Just think of the Irish talking points....

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« Reply #6416 on: November 06, 2010, 11:14:23 AM »
Our dominance of Texas just got them some coin.  Can't wait to own Notre Dame in the same way.

This would be fantastic.  Have always disliked ND.  Would be amazing to get to own them in FB and BB annually.  

I hope that they don't adjust any entrance standards if they do come.

Just think of the Irish talking points....
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« Reply #6417 on: November 06, 2010, 11:41:49 AM »
We could talk a lot of Pinkel killing his students at practice stuff with them.

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« Reply #6419 on: November 10, 2010, 04:43:26 PM »
Denver University, Texas-San Antonio and Texas State will join the WAC in 2012-13 to offset the departures of Boise State, Fresno State and Nevada to the Mountain West, multiple sources told ESPN.com.

UTSA, which still needs official approval from the board of regents, and Texas State will join in all sports. Denver will join for all sports except for football, since the Pioneers don't play at the FBS level.

The WAC will have eight football members, nine for men's and women's basketball. The WAC would have had six members in 2012-13 if nothing had been done with Hawaii, Louisiana Tech, Idaho, New Mexico State, Utah State and San Jose State.

An announcement is expected from the WAC on Thursday.

Montana could also join the WAC in all sports, especially if the Grizzlies decide to bump up from FCS to FBS in football. Montana, a FCS power, is expected to make a decision in the next few weeks. If the Grizzlies decide against the move then Seattle would likely step in with all sports except football.

The WAC's perfect scenario, according to multiple sources, is to get to nine football schools, including Montana and 10 basketball schools.

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« Reply #6420 on: November 10, 2010, 04:46:35 PM »
Wow, that is the shittiest conference ever assembled. 

Congrats, Sun Belt, you've earned this one.   :cheers:

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« Reply #6421 on: November 10, 2010, 05:45:04 PM »
Wow, that is the greatest conference ever assembled. 

Congrats, 42, you've earned this one.   :cheers:

Thanks!

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« Reply #6422 on: November 10, 2010, 07:13:25 PM »
God. 
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« Reply #6423 on: November 10, 2010, 07:48:59 PM »
Wow, that is the greatest conference ever assembled. 

Congrats, 42, you've earned this one.   :cheers:

Thanks!

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« Reply #6424 on: November 10, 2010, 08:33:51 PM »
Wow, that is the greatest conference ever assembled. 

Congrats, 42, you've earned this one.   :cheers:

Thanks!

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