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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #5900 on: July 06, 2010, 01:06:33 PM »
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #5902 on: July 08, 2010, 09:46:18 AM »
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« Reply #5903 on: July 08, 2010, 10:06:47 AM »
Can't wait to hear the amount tied to the Big X and Versus deal.  :drool:

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« Reply #5904 on: July 08, 2010, 11:38:30 AM »
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #5906 on: July 08, 2010, 02:03:50 PM »
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« Reply #5907 on: July 08, 2010, 02:09:30 PM »
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #5908 on: July 08, 2010, 02:32:29 PM »
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Sports Business Journal reported last month that the Big 12 media deals likely will bring the conference slightly more than the ACC, some $160 million annually.

With the addition of bowl and NCAA Tournament revenue, the Big 12 eventually will be distributing $200 million to its 10 members.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/951

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« Reply #5909 on: July 08, 2010, 02:44:41 PM »
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Sports Business Journal reported last month that the Big 12 media deals likely will bring the conference slightly more than the ACC, some $160 million annually.

With the addition of bowl and NCAA Tournament revenue, the Big 12 eventually will be distributing $200 million to its 10 members.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/951

Question is how would that get distributed?

Obviously TX, TAM, and OU are getting the $20M they were promised.  Wonder how the split would be after that?

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« Reply #5910 on: July 08, 2010, 03:16:13 PM »
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Sports Business Journal reported last month that the Big 12 media deals likely will bring the conference slightly more than the ACC, some $160 million annually.

With the addition of bowl and NCAA Tournament revenue, the Big 12 eventually will be distributing $200 million to its 10 members.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/951

Question is how would that get distributed?

Obviously TX, TAM, and OU are getting the $20M they were promised.  Wonder how the split would be after that?

That's not how this works. Those 3 schools won't automatically get $20M from the TV distribution. It will be distributed the same way it always has. It is likely that when this TV distribution is combined with other revenue distribution, those three schools (and others) will be at $20M or so. If for some reason they are not (and it is very unlikely they wouldn't) that is when the other 5 schools would make up the difference.

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« Reply #5911 on: July 08, 2010, 03:29:36 PM »
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Sports Business Journal reported last month that the Big 12 media deals likely will bring the conference slightly more than the ACC, some $160 million annually.

With the addition of bowl and NCAA Tournament revenue, the Big 12 eventually will be distributing $200 million to its 10 members.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/951

Question is how would that get distributed?

Obviously TX, TAM, and OU are getting the $20M they were promised.  Wonder how the split would be after that?

That's not how this works. Those 3 schools won't automatically get $20M from the TV distribution. It will be distributed the same way it always has. It is likely that when this TV distribution is combined with other revenue distribution, those three schools (and others) will be at $20M or so. If for some reason they are not (and it is very unlikely they wouldn't) that is when the other 5 schools would make up the difference.

During the conf issues we kept hearing that the B12 doesn't have equal distribution.  What is the distribution?

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« Reply #5912 on: July 08, 2010, 03:36:30 PM »
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Sports Business Journal reported last month that the Big 12 media deals likely will bring the conference slightly more than the ACC, some $160 million annually.

With the addition of bowl and NCAA Tournament revenue, the Big 12 eventually will be distributing $200 million to its 10 members.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/951

Question is how would that get distributed?

Obviously TX, TAM, and OU are getting the $20M they were promised.  Wonder how the split would be after that?

That's not how this works. Those 3 schools won't automatically get $20M from the TV distribution. It will be distributed the same way it always has. It is likely that when this TV distribution is combined with other revenue distribution, those three schools (and others) will be at $20M or so. If for some reason they are not (and it is very unlikely they wouldn't) that is when the other 5 schools would make up the difference.

During the conf issues we kept hearing that the B12 doesn't have equal distribution.  What is the distribution?

TV distribution is based on how many times you are on, and which network. So playing on FCS isn't as good as ESPN (FCS we basically break even, ESPN we make $$). So yes, it is unequal since if you're on a bunch, like Texas, then you make more off TV than schools that aren't on as much, like us or ISU. In the big 10, everybody's TV money goes into a pot and is broken up 11 ways — so even if you're tOSU and on TV way more than NW would be, because of the Big10 network you both make the same. Many folks in the Big 12 like the meritocracy: win more, make more.

Other things are distributed this way as well in the Big12, like postseason basketball. What you heard K-State throw around a bunch was that we and Baylor made more money than any team in the Big 12 off the NCAA tourney, because we went the furthest. The remaining schools in the Big12 all like this setup, because it rewards success.

Most of the other revenue distribution is equal — bowl money, championship game(s), etc. And really, the "unequal" part of the total distribution amounts to only a few million bucks, which really isn't that big a deal to the top revenue schools.

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« Reply #5913 on: July 08, 2010, 04:25:53 PM »
http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2010/07/espn-and-acc-reach-exclusive-12-year-agreement/

ACC is allegedly getting an almost 2 Billion deal  :surprised:


$1.86 billion sounds like a lot of money.....but divided by 12 years divided by 12 teams, works out to be surprisingly meh.  Still way better than what they were getting before.

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« Reply #5914 on: July 08, 2010, 04:36:19 PM »
Yeah, when ND got billions is was freaking amazing, especially back then.  But, when you divide 1.86 bil by the huge number of events they will televise over the length of the contract, it does seem pretty meh.  Still a nice chunk of income for the schools though.

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« Reply #5915 on: July 09, 2010, 07:40:48 AM »
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Sports Business Journal reported last month that the Big 12 media deals likely will bring the conference slightly more than the ACC, some $160 million annually.

With the addition of bowl and NCAA Tournament revenue, the Big 12 eventually will be distributing $200 million to its 10 members.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/951

Question is how would that get distributed?

Obviously TX, TAM, and OU are getting the $20M they were promised.  Wonder how the split would be after that?

That's not how this works. Those 3 schools won't automatically get $20M from the TV distribution. It will be distributed the same way it always has. It is likely that when this TV distribution is combined with other revenue distribution, those three schools (and others) will be at $20M or so. If for some reason they are not (and it is very unlikely they wouldn't) that is when the other 5 schools would make up the difference.

During the conf issues we kept hearing that the B12 doesn't have equal distribution.  What is the distribution?

TV distribution is based on how many times you are on, and which network. So playing on FCS isn't as good as ESPN (FCS we basically break even, ESPN we make $$). So yes, it is unequal since if you're on a bunch, like Texas, then you make more off TV than schools that aren't on as much, like us or ISU. In the big 10, everybody's TV money goes into a pot and is broken up 11 ways — so even if you're tOSU and on TV way more than NW would be, because of the Big10 network you both make the same. Many folks in the Big 12 like the meritocracy: win more, make more.

Other things are distributed this way as well in the Big12, like postseason basketball. What you heard K-State throw around a bunch was that we and Baylor made more money than any team in the Big 12 off the NCAA tourney, because we went the furthest. The remaining schools in the Big12 all like this setup, because it rewards success.

Most of the other revenue distribution is equal — bowl money, championship game(s), etc. And really, the "unequal" part of the total distribution amounts to only a few million bucks, which really isn't that big a deal to the top revenue schools.

Thanks for this cc ^ 

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« Reply #5916 on: July 09, 2010, 07:46:27 AM »
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Sports Business Journal reported last month that the Big 12 media deals likely will bring the conference slightly more than the ACC, some $160 million annually.

With the addition of bowl and NCAA Tournament revenue, the Big 12 eventually will be distributing $200 million to its 10 members.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/951

Question is how would that get distributed?

Obviously TX, TAM, and OU are getting the $20M they were promised.  Wonder how the split would be after that?

That's not how this works. Those 3 schools won't automatically get $20M from the TV distribution. It will be distributed the same way it always has. It is likely that when this TV distribution is combined with other revenue distribution, those three schools (and others) will be at $20M or so. If for some reason they are not (and it is very unlikely they wouldn't) that is when the other 5 schools would make up the difference.

During the conf issues we kept hearing that the B12 doesn't have equal distribution.  What is the distribution?

TV distribution is based on how many times you are on, and which network. So playing on FCS isn't as good as ESPN (FCS we basically break even, ESPN we make $$). So yes, it is unequal since if you're on a bunch, like Texas, then you make more off TV than schools that aren't on as much, like us or ISU. In the big 10, everybody's TV money goes into a pot and is broken up 11 ways — so even if you're tOSU and on TV way more than NW would be, because of the Big10 network you both make the same. Many folks in the Big 12 like the meritocracy: win more, make more.

Other things are distributed this way as well in the Big12, like postseason basketball. What you heard K-State throw around a bunch was that we and Baylor made more money than any team in the Big 12 off the NCAA tourney, because we went the furthest. The remaining schools in the Big12 all like this setup, because it rewards success.

Most of the other revenue distribution is equal — bowl money, championship game(s), etc. And really, the "unequal" part of the total distribution amounts to only a few million bucks, which really isn't that big a deal to the top revenue schools.

Thanks for this cc ^ 

I can't believe people still didn't understand this.  It's like, simple.

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« Reply #5917 on: July 09, 2010, 08:14:28 AM »
As KSU fans we need to care about distribution so that we know we're not getting screwed.  If we're not getting our fair share, we may just have to pack our bags and head for greener pastures.

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« Reply #5918 on: July 09, 2010, 08:21:44 AM »
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Sports Business Journal reported last month that the Big 12 media deals likely will bring the conference slightly more than the ACC, some $160 million annually.

With the addition of bowl and NCAA Tournament revenue, the Big 12 eventually will be distributing $200 million to its 10 members.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/951

Question is how would that get distributed?

Obviously TX, TAM, and OU are getting the $20M they were promised.  Wonder how the split would be after that?

That's not how this works. Those 3 schools won't automatically get $20M from the TV distribution. It will be distributed the same way it always has. It is likely that when this TV distribution is combined with other revenue distribution, those three schools (and others) will be at $20M or so. If for some reason they are not (and it is very unlikely they wouldn't) that is when the other 5 schools would make up the difference.

During the conf issues we kept hearing that the B12 doesn't have equal distribution.  What is the distribution?

TV distribution is based on how many times you are on, and which network. So playing on FCS isn't as good as ESPN (FCS we basically break even, ESPN we make $$). So yes, it is unequal since if you're on a bunch, like Texas, then you make more off TV than schools that aren't on as much, like us or ISU. In the big 10, everybody's TV money goes into a pot and is broken up 11 ways — so even if you're tOSU and on TV way more than NW would be, because of the Big10 network you both make the same. Many folks in the Big 12 like the meritocracy: win more, make more.

Other things are distributed this way as well in the Big12, like postseason basketball. What you heard K-State throw around a bunch was that we and Baylor made more money than any team in the Big 12 off the NCAA tourney, because we went the furthest. The remaining schools in the Big12 all like this setup, because it rewards success.

Most of the other revenue distribution is equal — bowl money, championship game(s), etc. And really, the "unequal" part of the total distribution amounts to only a few million bucks, which really isn't that big a deal to the top revenue schools.

Thanks for this cc ^ 

I can't believe people still didn't understand this.  It's like, simple.

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« Reply #5920 on: July 15, 2010, 09:59:10 PM »
Is this (10-team basketball tourney) going to lessen the prestige of "No Wednesdays"?

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« Reply #5922 on: July 27, 2010, 05:57:57 PM »
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« Reply #5923 on: July 27, 2010, 06:00:30 PM »
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Larry Scott officially announced that new Pac 10 will be called Pac 12. "We like to be mathematically correct."

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« Reply #5924 on: July 27, 2010, 06:01:30 PM »
WHAT WILL WE BE CALLED?!?

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