Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[ew2x4]

I was really worried last yearabout the Pac16. This year? I really dont give two shits what tamu does. I have the feeling nobody else does except the media and tamu fans. eff these guys.

[Panjandrum]

I was really worried last yearabout the Pac16. This year? I really dont give two craps what tamu does. I have the feeling nobody else does except the media and tamu fans. eff these guys.

We can survive losing A&M if it comes to that.

A friend of mine made a good point; A&M tipped their hand a little early.  Their BOR meets on 8/22.  This gives the Texas legislature almost two weeks to beat them to a bloody pulp and sink any hopes for a deal.

I'm interested to see the articles coming out of Texas this weekend.  I'm thinking we're in for a few pretty harsh news cycles down in Aggieland.

[MadCat]

I was really worried last yearabout the Pac16. This year? I really dont give two shits what tamu does. I have the feeling nobody else does except the media and tamu fans. eff these guys.

Nebraska cares because they want the wheels to fall off of the Big 12 bus just so they can feel vindicated and recover from the embarassment of being kicked out of the AAU.  Respects.

[Scary Smart]

TexAgs.com is insane right now. All of those rough ridin' idiots are celebrating with their new posters from SEC schools and patting themselves on the back. I've also seen a few comments from those racist morons that they are "proud to be back with the other confederate states." If for some reason this deal doesn't go down, A&M will be the absolute laughingstock of the country.

[bigwillie20]

This was great stuff by THujone last year

[chum1]

ttt

[Pete]

Chip Brown...

August 22 appears to be D-Day for the 10-member Big 12 as we know it.

Three sources close to the situation said Texas A&M's regents board will meet on August 22 to deliberate and likely vote on an application to join the Southeastern Conference as early as 2012.

Texas A&M System spokesman Jason Cook denied reports that A&M has already agreed to join the SEC.

   
UT AD DeLoss Dodds said this week he'd like to see the Big 12 stay alive - with or without Texas A&M.
"There's no agreement in principle, nothing," Cook told Orangebloods.com.

Two sources said the SEC presidents are being gathered Saturday in an emergency meeting to address the possible addition of Texas A&M.

The sources said the Aggies' nine-member regents board is leaning toward leaving the Big 12 and are being fueled by a lack of confidence in the current configuration of the league - i.e. the relationship between Texas and ESPN (the Longhorn Network) and how it could negatively impact the rest of the members.

There's growing concern in the Big 12 that A&M is already well down the road toward joining the SEC.

According to multiple sources close to the situation, Aggies' president Bowen Loftin met with SEC officials prior to an Aug. 1 meeting among Big 12 athletic directors in Dallas to discuss how to co-exist with Texas and its Longhorn Network (LHN).

Loftin apparently aired A&M's grievances against LHN to SEC officials during the meeting. Cook said he wasn't aware of any such meeting.

"I think this is pretty far along," one administrator at a Big 12 school said of A&M's courtship with the SEC.

One of A&M's concerns - LHN airing high school games - was eliminated on Thursday when the NCAA ruled no high school games would be allowed to be shown on school or conference networks.

But it didn't appear the NCAA's ruling would have much bearing on A&M's momentum toward the SEC, sources said.

The question is if anything can slow the apparent momentum. Sources across the Big 12 said lawmakers were being contacted in hopes of reaching Texas A&M officials to fully consider preserving all the history and tradition between Texas A&M and the Texas schools in the Big 12.

The SEC has been eerily quiet about all the speculation surrounding Texas A&M. But sources said SEC commissioner Mike Slive and Texas A&M president Bowen Loftin have formed a relationship since Slive visited College Station last June during the Big 12 Missile Crisis.

Loftin was impressed by Slive when it appeared half the Big 12 was headed to the Pac-10, and Slive made a pitch to Texas A&M to head east - not west.

The two have spoken intermittently since then, sources said. Bowen's most recent visit with Slive apparently happened on SEC turf two weeks ago, according to sources.

Upon learning of Loftin's alleged meeting with SEC officials before huddling with Big 12 ADs on Aug. 1, one official at a Big 12 school questioned the Aggies and their Code of Honor, which states, "An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal, or tolerate those who do."

The source said Texas A&M made a 10-year pledge to hold the Big 12 Conference together when ABC/ESPN vowed a year ago to keep paying the Big 12 as if it was still a 12-member league with a championship game. The source also questioned if A&M might be liable for breach of contract after signing a 13-year, $1.17 billion TV contract with Fox Sports for the Big 12's second-tier rights to football in April.

An A&M source told Orangebloods.com the Aggies are having their lawyers look at everything, including the exit fees A&M would have to pay to leave the Big 12.

Under the current bylaws, Texas A&M would be required to relinquish 80 percent of revenues over a two-year period if the Aggies left with only a year's notice.

Nebraska and Colorado were able to pay substantially less than that by settling with the Big 12.

Sources said Thursday the SEC would be interested in adding Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and Virginia Tech in addition to Texas A&M to form a 16-team super conference. Florida State has also been mentioned as a possible target of the SEC, according to Big 12 sources.

Two officials at separate Big 12 schools said Oklahoma and Oklahoma State would stay in the Big 12 as long as the other schools were willing to stay together. A third official in the Big 12 said the remaining nine schools were "solid."

Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds said Wednesday it would be Texas' goal to hold the Big 12 together. But if there wasn't sentiment for that he said Texas and a school like Notre Dame should look at starting their own conference. Dodds has said he is against Texas going independent.

A high-ranking official at a Big 12 school said the Pac-12 could re-enter the picture if Texas A&M leaves for the SEC. The official said Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott has indicated he would love to set up regional networks in Oklahoma and Texas Tech to accommodate Oklahoma and Oklahoma State as well as Texas and Texas Tech.

Scott said in an e-mail Thursday night he's "fully focused on developing the Pac-12" and would have no further comment.

Such a plan by Scott would require a complete re-working of the 20-year, $300 million Longhorn Network contract between Texas and ESPN, which is obviously a massive undertaking that would require Texas to give a little in terms of revenue sharing.

Stay tuned.

[wetwillie]

eff A&M for waiting this long to start saber rattling.  I mean they could have had the common decency to start this crap in April to make for a better BBS'ing offseason.

[Pete]

If aTm leaves, then EVERYTHING hinges on how MANY schools the SEC gobbles up.

If the SEC sits tight with aTm plus one more, then we'll ask ND to join us and they'll say "GTFOOMF," and we'll prolly grab the Mormons (WAY more TV's than TCU).

If the SEC gets greedy and goes all super-conference, then ND has to listen to us.

Facts, bros.

[KITNfury]

I'd optimistically give ND a 0.00% chance of joining us, but if they did, I actually think the conference would be pretty rock solid. There'd be enough power, other than UT, to balance the league and plenty of money to go around.

[wabash909]

If aTm leaves, then EVERYTHING hinges on how MANY schools the SEC gobbles up.

If the SEC sits tight with aTm plus one more, then we'll ask ND to join us and they'll say "GTFOOMF," and we'll prolly grab the Mormons (WAY more TV's than TCU).

If the SEC gets greedy and goes all super-conference, then ND has to listen to us.

Facts, bros.

Correct.

One and we're fine.  The problem is that even if the SEC only expands to 14 this round, it's only a matter of time for the 16 team super conference scenario to run it's course in the next year or two.  The Big 10 and Pac 12 have ready shown they won't be one upped.

My concern is even if we bring on BYU or TCU, we're right back where we were next season.  I also think it's going to be close to impossible to add BYU for that reason.  They've got a good deal as an independent - not sure they see the value.

[Pete]

If aTm leaves, then EVERYTHING hinges on how MANY schools the SEC gobbles up.

If the SEC sits tight with aTm plus one more, then we'll ask ND to join us and they'll say "GTFOOMF," and we'll prolly grab the Mormons (WAY more TV's than TCU).

If the SEC gets greedy and goes all super-conference, then ND has to listen to us.

Facts, bros.

Correct.

One and we're fine.  The problem is that even if the SEC only expands to 14 this round, it's only a matter of time for the 16 team super conference scenario to run it's course in the next year or two.  The Big 10 and Pac 12 have ready shown they won't be one upped.

My concern is even if we bring on BYU or TCU, we're right back where we were next season.  I also think it's going to be close to impossible to add BYU for that reason.  They've got a good deal as an independent - not sure they see the value.

Actually, I ammend my theory to say we will NOT expand if SEC stays at 13 or14...unlrss ND says yes (lol) OR the networks demand that we add BYU.

[sys]

I'd optimistically give ND a 0.00% chance of joining us.

there is a 0% chance of nd joining the big 12.  ut isn't talking about that.  they're talking about ut picking their fav 5 sw schools, nd picking their fav five upper midwest and east coast elite schools and forming a new conference with minimal intradivisional fball.

might be a chance that'd it be a 14 or 16, rather than 12 team confy.

[steve dave]

I'd optimistically give ND a 0.00% chance of joining us.

there is a 0% chance of nd joining the big 12.  ut isn't talking about that.  they're talking about ut picking their fav 5 sw schools, nd picking their fav five upper midwest and east coast elite schools and forming a new conference with minimal intradivisional fball.

might be a chance that'd it be a 14 or 16, rather than 12 team confy.

Dear Texas,

Please pick us.  We don't get all butthurt about how awesome and rich you are.  Hell, we rough ridin' love it.

huggs and kisses,
k-state

[KITNfury]

I'd optimistically give ND a 0.00% chance of joining us.

there is a 0% chance of nd joining the big 12.  ut isn't talking about that.  they're talking about ut picking their fav 5 sw schools, nd picking their fav five upper midwest and east coast elite schools and forming a new conference with minimal intradivisional fball.

might be a chance that'd it be a 14 or 16, rather than 12 team confy.

Dear Texas,

Please pick us.  We don't get all butthurt about how awesome and rich you are.  Hell, we rough ridin' love it.

huggs and kisses,
k-state

yes this. maybe deloss still has a shred of emaw deep down?

[steve dave]

You can slap us around and treat us bad.  We are the most dedicated battered wife you will ever have. 

[KITNfury]

What makes UT want us in their confy more?:

A) We beat them again this year in everything and leave them wanting revenge or
B) We lose to them in everything for the first time in the history of the universe and let them think they finally have a leg up on our great university

[steve dave]

There isn't a team more perfect for the Texas/ND super conference than us.  They know we will agree to whatever they want. 

[Bill Clarahan]

I'd optimistically give ND a 0.00% chance of joining us.

there is a 0% chance of nd joining the big 12.  ut isn't talking about that.  they're talking about ut picking their fav 5 sw schools, nd picking their fav five upper midwest and east coast elite schools and forming a new conference with minimal intradivisional fball.

might be a chance that'd it be a 14 or 16, rather than 12 team confy.

Dear Texas,

Please pick us.  We don't get all butthurt about how awesome and rich you are.  Hell, we rough ridin' love it.

huggs and kisses,
k-state

Hey!!1!  I just had an idea.

We should send UT a gift card!!!1!  Somebody get on that

[Saulbadguy]

Honestly, I think the K-State brand has grown stronger over the past 5 years, and with our new leadership at the helm, we will land in a conference that will allow us to compete for all the marbles...

[Trim]

I'd optimistically give ND a 0.00% chance of joining us.

there is a 0% chance of nd joining the big 12.  ut isn't talking about that.  they're talking about ut picking their fav 5 sw schools, nd picking their fav five upper midwest and east coast elite schools and forming a new conference with minimal intradivisional fball.

might be a chance that'd it be a 14 or 16, rather than 12 team confy.

Dear Texas,

Please pick us.  We don't get all butthurt about how awesome and rich you are.  Hell, we rough ridin' love it.

huggs and kisses,
k-state

Hey!!1!  I just had an idea.

We should send UT a gift card!!!1!  Somebody get on that

[Stupid Fitz]

Dear TX,

We'll do the laundry, the dishes, and cleaning. When you come home with lipstick on your collar, the only thing we will say is, "here is your shirt honey, clean and pressed just like you like it. Now enjoy your day and we will be here waiting until you get home, no matter how late it is"

[Pete]

I'd optimistically give ND a 0.00% chance of joining us.

there is a 0% chance of nd joining the big 12.  ut isn't talking about that.  they're talking about ut picking their fav 5 sw schools, nd picking their fav five upper midwest and east coast elite schools and forming a new conference with minimal intradivisional fball.

might be a chance that'd it be a 14 or 16, rather than 12 team confy.

Dear Texas,

Please pick us.  We don't get all butthurt about how awesome and rich you are.  Hell, we rough ridin' love it.

huggs and kisses,
k-state

Hey!!1!  I just had an idea.

We should send UT a gift card!!!1!  Somebody get on that

There's a poster on this board who can prolly hook (get it) us up with discounts on those.  PM Limestone, he has the guy's contact info, IIRC.

[Panjandrum]

If aTm leaves, then EVERYTHING hinges on how MANY schools the SEC gobbles up.

If the SEC sits tight with aTm plus one more, then we'll ask ND to join us and they'll say "GTFOOMF," and we'll prolly grab the Mormons (WAY more TV's than TCU).

If the SEC gets greedy and goes all super-conference, then ND has to listen to us.

Facts, bros.

Correct.

One and we're fine.  The problem is that even if the SEC only expands to 14 this round, it's only a matter of time for the 16 team super conference scenario to run it's course in the next year or two.  The Big 10 and Pac 12 have ready shown they won't be one upped.

My concern is even if we bring on BYU or TCU, we're right back where we were next season.  I also think it's going to be close to impossible to add BYU for that reason.  They've got a good deal as an independent - not sure they see the value.

The Big Ten would be the first to jump.  They have the infrastructure to do it with their own network, and adding schools adds inventory, gets them into more markets, and then makes states (like Missouri should they jump) pay more for access to that channel, adding profit to the BTN.

I think the SEC would be a little more reserved.  They may go to 16 eventually, but it would require them reworking their deals with CBS and ESPN otherwise they're splitting the same money four more ways.  It would be a long term investment, but I don't think they're really going to be squabbling with the Big Ten over the same schools, so they can take their time.

Larry Scott is just going to get on his knees and service whoever he can to get 16 BCS teams west of the Mississippi.

The SEC has to rework their deals, and until they do, they're splitting food between two more mouths.

[Saulbadguy]

I'd optimistically give ND a 0.00% chance of joining us.

there is a 0% chance of nd joining the big 12.  ut isn't talking about that.  they're talking about ut picking their fav 5 sw schools, nd picking their fav five upper midwest and east coast elite schools and forming a new conference with minimal intradivisional fball.

might be a chance that'd it be a 14 or 16, rather than 12 team confy.

Dear Texas,

Please pick us.  We don't get all butthurt about how awesome and rich you are.  Hell, we rough ridin' love it.

huggs and kisses,
k-state

Hey!!1!  I just had an idea.

We should send UT a gift card!!!1!  Somebody get on that

Just get them a Darden gift card in case Kirk and DeLoss can't decide on where to eat.