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« Reply #425 on: May 10, 2010, 03:55:12 PM »
our meltdown should be similar to the one on cyclonefanatic

http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/big-xii-conference/90471-big-10-expansion-has-begun.html

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There are some rough ridin' morons over there who honestly think ISU has a shot at being asked to join the Big 10.   eff, that is just dim witted and pathetic.





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« Reply #426 on: May 10, 2010, 04:02:52 PM »
What's the supposed timetable on this stuff?  Start the new look in the 11-12 season?  Or are they going to give it longer than a 1 year warning?

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« Reply #427 on: May 10, 2010, 04:09:50 PM »
What's the supposed timetable on this stuff?  Start the new look in the 11-12 season?  Or are they going to give it longer than a 1 year warning?

My guess is it will happen the summer of 2011. It's the off-season for most sports.

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« Reply #428 on: May 10, 2010, 04:19:32 PM »
What's the supposed timetable on this stuff?  Start the new look in the 11-12 season?  Or are they going to give it longer than a 1 year warning?

My guess is it will happen the summer of 2011. It's the off-season for most sports.

Kietz is saying that the longer they wait after the initial decision, the more money they lose. So, they want to make the decision as soon as feasible to ensure less loss of cash.

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« Reply #429 on: May 10, 2010, 04:20:15 PM »
This isn't rocket surgery . . . Texas is the key.   In the very unscientific Horn Message Board leanings . . . it appears from what I've seen Horn fans predisposed to comment on message boards are pretty much leaning towards letting the two cry babies go their merry way and then moving forward.   They've pretty much had their fill of the whiny Cornholes . . . and they pretty much don't give a f_ck about Missouri.


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« Reply #430 on: May 10, 2010, 04:21:48 PM »
What's the supposed timetable on this stuff?  Start the new look in the 11-12 season?  Or are they going to give it longer than a 1 year warning?

There will be pleanty of time to melt down.  Should be fun.  How about this:

Big West conference

Mountain division
Colorado St.
Wyoming
UNLV
New Mexico
SD State
Boise St
Fresno St
Nevada

Plains division
KU
K-State
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
Tulsa
Ok-State
Iowa St

Fanstastic huh~!?   :ksu:

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« Reply #431 on: May 10, 2010, 04:25:00 PM »
Another thing that hurts K-State is the fact that K-State isn't part of the American Association of Universities (AAU).  The AAU consists of 61 universities (prestigious schools like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc.).  The Big 10 requires their members to be a part of the AAU, and the Pac 10 is pretty selective about academic standards as well.  The tough part for K-State is that they really don't offer anything academically or athletically, and even less when it comes to TV sets.  KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program, and is a part of the AAU.  KU also makes nearly twice as much as K-State in athletic revenue, and has almost three times as many TV sets in the KC area.  

I just hope that if the Pac 10/Big 12 realignment does go down, KU isn't forced to bring K-State with us.  If so, KU might be on the outside looking in as well.

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« Reply #432 on: May 10, 2010, 04:26:55 PM »
Another thing that hurts K-State is the fact that K-State isn't part of the American Association of Universities (AAU).  The AAU consists of 61 universities (prestigious schools like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc.).  The Big 10 requires their members to be a part of the AAU, and the Pac 10 is pretty selective about academic standards as well.  The tough part for K-State is that they really don't offer anything academically or athletically, and even less when it comes to TV sets.  KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program, and is a part of the AAU.  KU also makes nearly twice as much as K-State in athletic revenue, and has almost three times as many TV sets in the KC area.  

I just hope that if the Pac 10/Big 12 realignment does go down, KU isn't forced to bring K-State with us.  If so, KU might be on the outside looking in as well.
Just all in all one of the dumbest things you have ever posted....Def number one non prediction related......

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« Reply #433 on: May 10, 2010, 04:27:30 PM »
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and they pretty much don't give a f_ck about Missouri.
Who does? :dunno:

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« Reply #434 on: May 10, 2010, 04:29:07 PM »
Another thing that hurts K-State is the fact that K-State isn't part of the American Association of Universities (AAU).  The AAU consists of 61 universities (prestigious schools like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc.).  The Big 10 requires their members to be a part of the AAU, and the Pac 10 is pretty selective about academic standards as well.  The tough part for K-State is that they really don't offer anything academically or athletically, and even less when it comes to TV sets.  KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program, and is a part of the AAU.  KU also makes nearly twice as much as K-State in athletic revenue, and has almost three times as many TV sets in the KC area.  

I just hope that if the Pac 10/Big 12 realignment does go down, KU isn't forced to bring K-State with us.  If so, KU might be on the outside looking in as well.

has KU ever considered going independent a la Notre Dame?  Sounds awesome enough.

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« Reply #435 on: May 10, 2010, 04:29:25 PM »
Another thing that hurts K-State is the fact that K-State isn't part of the American Association of Universities (AAU).  The AAU consists of 61 universities (prestigious schools like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc.).  The Big 10 requires their members to be a part of the AAU, and the Pac 10 is pretty selective about academic standards as well.  The tough part for K-State is that they really don't offer anything academically or athletically, and even less when it comes to TV sets.  KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program, and is a part of the AAU.  KU also makes nearly twice as much as K-State in athletic revenue, and has almost three times as many TV sets in the KC area.  

I just hope that if the Pac 10/Big 12 realignment does go down, KU isn't forced to bring K-State with us.  If so, KU might be on the outside looking in as well.


Thanks for breaking down the AAu for us, Ben.



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« Reply #436 on: May 10, 2010, 04:31:15 PM »
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KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program
Get it through your head, moonbeams, absolutely nobody gives a crap about your basketball program.

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« Reply #437 on: May 10, 2010, 04:33:49 PM »
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KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program
Get it through your head, moonbeams, absolutely nobody gives a crap about your basketball program.




Not true.   KU's basketball program brings in tons of revenue, and the NCAA tournament makes up 98% of the NCAA's revenue.  The truth is that no one gives a sh*t about K-State, because your university brings absolutely NOTHING to the table. 

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« Reply #438 on: May 10, 2010, 04:35:27 PM »
This isn't rocket surgery . . . Texas is the key.   In the very unscientific Horn Message Board leanings . . . it appears from what I've seen Horn fans predisposed to comment on message boards are pretty much leaning towards letting the two cry babies go their merry way and then moving forward.   They've pretty much had their fill of the whiny Cornholes . . . and they pretty much don't give a f_ck about Missouri.



Kietzman just had an awesome exchange with Kevin Harlan on this.  Harlan announces that KU shouldn't simply "take it" from Texas, that Mizzou and NU would be right to leave and so should KU.....then Kietz hits him with the "the state won't let them split" and Kevin Harlan's head nearly explodes.

The disgust and hatred that we all have for Texas is very real, but we all have zero recourse.  We should just start worshiping Texas as if they are our God, then when they do things that hurt us we can just say "the Lord works in mysterious ways" and move on.


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« Reply #439 on: May 10, 2010, 04:36:50 PM »
Poor moombeams, keeps bringing a knife to a gunfight.

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« Reply #440 on: May 10, 2010, 04:37:22 PM »
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KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program
Get it through your head, moonbeams, absolutely nobody gives a crap about your basketball program.




Not true.   KU's basketball program brings in tons of revenue, and the NCAA tournament makes up 98% of the NCAA's revenue.  The truth is that no one gives a sh*t about K-State, because your university brings absolutely NOTHING to the table. 
Lame again Ben, EMAW brings athletic and academic programs that UK doesn't have. Another thing, every University has their 15 minutes of fame and rich alumni and people that give a sh*t. Quit acting like UK is this "big brother" in the state.

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« Reply #441 on: May 10, 2010, 04:40:11 PM »
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KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program
Get it through your head, moonbeams, absolutely nobody gives a crap about your basketball program.




Not true.   KU's basketball program brings in tons of revenue, and the NCAA tournament makes up 98% of the NCAA's revenue.  The truth is that no one gives a sh*t about K-State, because your university brings absolutely NOTHING to the table. 
Who would have thought that the NCAA tournament brought 98% of conference revenue.  Well, not anyone with a brain.  Anyone with stats, not just self-serving crap that ku fans think out of their ass?

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« Reply #442 on: May 10, 2010, 04:43:09 PM »
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KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program
Get it through your head, moonbeams, absolutely nobody gives a crap about your basketball program.




Not true.   KU's basketball program brings in tons of revenue, and the NCAA tournament makes up 98% of the NCAA's revenue.  The truth is that no one gives a sh*t about K-State, because your university brings absolutely NOTHING to the table. 

Pretty sure you are confusing the NCAA rev with the participating schools' rev.  Schools don't give a crap what the NCAA makes, only what the Schools' make.


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« Reply #443 on: May 10, 2010, 04:52:21 PM »
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KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program
Get it through your head, moonbeams, absolutely nobody gives a crap about your basketball program.




Not true.   KU's basketball program brings in tons of revenue, and the NCAA tournament makes up 98% of the NCAA's revenue.  The truth is that no one gives a sh*t about K-State, because your university brings absolutely NOTHING to the table. 
Who would have thought that the NCAA tournament brought 98% of conference revenue.  Well, not anyone with a brain.  Anyone with stats, not just self-serving crap that ku fans think out of their ass?



Reading comprehension 101.  Try it sometime.

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« Reply #444 on: May 10, 2010, 04:52:55 PM »
Viewed from another angle, Nebraska and Mizzou have been sucking teats behind OU and Texas for most of the conference history, so they should be content on the teat right ahead of the Golden Gophers.  

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« Reply #445 on: May 10, 2010, 04:55:53 PM »
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KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program
Get it through your head, moonbeams, absolutely nobody gives a crap about your basketball program.




Not true.   KU's basketball program brings in tons of revenue, and the NCAA tournament makes up 98% of the NCAA's revenue.  The truth is that no one gives a sh*t about K-State, because your university brings absolutely NOTHING to the table. 
Lame again Ben, EMAW brings athletic and academic programs that UK doesn't have. Another thing, every University has their 15 minutes of fame and rich alumni and people that give a sh*t. Quit acting like UK is this "big brother" in the state.



KU has academic programs that K-State doesn't have as well, like a law school and a medical school for example.  As I've already pointed out, KU is a part of the AAU.  K-State isn't.  KU was also ranked #11 nationally in athletic revenue just this past year.  KU's athletic budget is nearly twice the size of K-State's.  Whether you like it or not, K-State is the little brother in this state.  K-State better hope that the Kansas Board of Regents requires KU to be in the same conference, or else all bets are off.  

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« Reply #446 on: May 10, 2010, 04:59:28 PM »
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KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program
Get it through your head, moonbeams, absolutely nobody gives a crap about your basketball program.




Not true.   KU's basketball program brings in tons of revenue, and the NCAA tournament makes up 98% of the NCAA's revenue.  The truth is that no one gives a sh*t about K-State, because your university brings absolutely NOTHING to the table. 
Who would have thought that the NCAA tournament brought 98% of conference revenue.  Well, not anyone with a brain.  Anyone with stats, not just self-serving crap that ku fans think out of their ass?



Reading comprehension 101.  Try it sometime.
Where did you get 98% from?

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« Reply #447 on: May 10, 2010, 05:00:08 PM »
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KU at least has a nationally recognized basketball program
Get it through your head, moonbeams, absolutely nobody gives a crap about your basketball program.




Not true.   KU's basketball program brings in tons of revenue, and the NCAA tournament makes up 98% of the NCAA's revenue.  The truth is that no one gives a sh*t about K-State, because your university brings absolutely NOTHING to the table. 
Lame again Ben, EMAW brings athletic and academic programs that UK doesn't have. Another thing, every University has their 15 minutes of fame and rich alumni and people that give a sh*t. Quit acting like UK is this "big brother" in the state.



KU has academic programs that K-State doesn't have as well, like a law school and a medical school for example.  As I've already pointed out, KU is a part of the AAU.  K-State isn't.  KU was also ranked #11 nationally in athletic revenue just this past year.  KU's athletic budget is nearly twice the size of K-State's.  Whether you like it or not, K-State is the little brother in this state.  K-State better hope that the Kansas Board of Regents requires KU to be in the same conference, or else all bets are off.  

What bets are off, Ben?  KU not getting invited to the Big 10 or SEC.

KU's predicatment is virtually the same as ours at this point in time, you dumbass.


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« Reply #448 on: May 10, 2010, 05:01:57 PM »
I have heard the 98% stat.  One of the NCAA guys did an interview on 810 this March and threw that number out.

That said, I think he is getting the NCAA's rev confused with the rev of the schools.

Also, I don't think individual school AD rev is as important in the conf as he thinks.  The conf's are all busy discussing TV rev which is all negotiated conf by conf, not team by team.  

This discussion with beems hasn't been apples to apples.

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« Reply #449 on: May 10, 2010, 05:05:20 PM »
The NCAA tournament makes up 98% of the NCAA's revenue... not the school's revenue, not the conference's revenue.  The NCAA.  The NCAA is a separate entity from the BCS.