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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32025 on: August 16, 2021, 11:34:05 AM »
K-State's shot of ever winning a National Title in football went out the door once the playoffs were introduced. There's no way we're ever winning 2-3 games in a row vs blue blood programs.

Why not? We've had teams that were good enough to do it before.

I worry a little bit that it will be like the early to mid 90's (when I was a little cat) and it will be really hard to watch cats games again.

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I don't see that happening. With all the TV contracts and internet streaming, I think we'll be able to watch a football games just about anywhere. You and I are similar in age, so I do know what you're talking about. I regularly listened to the games on the radio with my father as he made the rounds with the tractor. However, back then a majority of the football games were simply untelevised. That's not the case in today's modern world.
Our best teams lost all of their postseason games. Even when we have our dream seasons, we crap the bed against prime competition.
K-State's best chance was for a title was to win the B12 was to be one of 2 undefeated teams to force our way into a title game.  Now we wouldn't have to go undefeated (assuming we're in a major conference), but would have to win 3-4 more games against top competition.  We're probably never doing that.  If we end up the G5, we'll have to go undefeated and then win 3-4 more games against teams that have an even bigger advantage over

2012 KSU was close to playing for a title and could've beat ND in the system that existed then.  Now they would've potentially had to go through Oregon or Bama and they weren't winning those games.


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32026 on: August 16, 2021, 09:00:18 PM »
I worry a little bit that it will be like the early to mid 90's (when I was a little cat) and it will be really hard to watch cats games again.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32028 on: August 17, 2021, 04:26:05 PM »
One thing I know for certain is Greg Swaim is completely full of crap.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32029 on: August 17, 2021, 04:27:32 PM »
So let me get this straight.   The SEC has by far and away the two biggest names in college sports in Texas and  yet they feel like they've now got to capture Baylor, Tech and TCU in order to "lock down" Texas??





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« Reply #32030 on: August 17, 2021, 04:31:35 PM »
That's what Greg is hearing from one of the best sources not named Greg Sankey.

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« Reply #32031 on: August 17, 2021, 04:33:57 PM »
So let me get this straight.   The SEC has by far and away the two biggest names in college sports in Texas and  yet they feel like they've now got to capture Baylor, Tech and TCU in order to "lock down" Texas??

They will also be adding Houston, Rice and SMU.  This has all just been a long con to merge the SWC with the SEC.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32032 on: August 17, 2021, 04:37:58 PM »
They're rebuilding the confederacy

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« Reply #32033 on: August 17, 2021, 04:39:45 PM »
Since today is Terrible Twitter Takes Tuesday, I give you the latest from MHver3.

https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/1427744011863961603?s=20

https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/1427744585036570633?s=20

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32034 on: August 17, 2021, 05:37:50 PM »
I think Sankey found his leak.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32036 on: August 17, 2021, 07:22:37 PM »
One thing I know for certain is Greg Swaim is completely full of crap.

THIS.  I feel sorry for the new kids tho.  :frown:

https://www.frogsowar.com/2021/8/17/22628940/rumor-tcu-to-the-sec

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32038 on: August 17, 2021, 09:18:55 PM »
Greg Swaim's hashtag use always cracks me up

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32039 on: August 17, 2021, 11:32:37 PM »
One thing I know for certain is Greg Swaim is completely full of crap.

THIS.  I feel sorry for the new kids tho.  :frown:

https://www.frogsowar.com/2021/8/17/22628940/rumor-tcu-to-the-sec

During conference realignment 1.0 I was following all the random soothsayers clinging to their every word.

This time around I'm following your advice of smoking a cigar and enjoying the band one last time.

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« Reply #32040 on: August 18, 2021, 09:31:18 AM »
Yep, I'm not nearly as concerned with what happens now as I was the last time around.

Also, for the Nth time... Baylor and TCU are never going to be in another power conference not named the Big XII. They bring next to nothing to the table. I do not understand these rumors at all where they get into the Pac or SEC. Who actually believes that crap?

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« Reply #32041 on: August 18, 2021, 11:22:39 AM »
I think the people who are speculating have no idea what the decision makers base their decisions on and just jump to conclusions.  I mean K-State isn't within 15 miles of a large city and went 4-6 last season.  Who would want them?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32042 on: August 18, 2021, 11:31:45 AM »


Also, for the Nth time... Baylor and TCU are never going to be in another power conference not named the Big XII. They bring next to nothing to the table. I do not understand these rumors at all where they get into the Pac or SEC. Who actually believes that crap?

People who think this is about the competition on the field and not the competition between ESPN, FOX CBS et. al.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32043 on: August 18, 2021, 11:50:52 AM »
Some TV viewership numbers...I'm not sure if this is an accurate representation of how TV networks value different schools  :dunno:
https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach/which-college-football-programs-bring-in-the-most-tv-viewers-efc03c689e50

EDIT: Already I see flaws in this as the rankings are based on nationally-televised games only.

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« Reply #32044 on: August 18, 2021, 12:03:59 PM »
I haven't read through this post entirely, but it's an analysis of TV viewership from the point of view of a Baylor fan site:
https://sicem365.com/s/10313/stop-the-slander-aac-tv-viewership-doesnt-equal-to-the-big-12-remains

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« Reply #32045 on: August 18, 2021, 12:06:36 PM »
I have a hard time imagining networks give that much credence to stuff like that. Like the author says, so many of those numbers are purely situational and don’t speak to what the brand itself is worth. Just look how far down Texas is.

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« Reply #32046 on: August 18, 2021, 03:21:11 PM »
"Who's man is this? Somebody come in here and get this sleepy dude."

I'm just a Baylor hater trying to get by. Aww
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« Reply #32047 on: August 18, 2021, 04:39:13 PM »
I have a hard time imagining networks give that much credence to stuff like that. Like the author says, so many of those numbers are purely situational and don’t speak to what the brand itself is worth. Just look how far down Texas is.

I would argue the networks make all their decisions based on stuff like that, they just have way better data and know how to adjust for time slots and other demographics that drive their revenue streams.  The problem we have is we only have some top line rating numbers and don't know all the levers that really drive rating in key demo groups.  These are all just "back of napkin" type stuff various media and message boarders are doing.

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« Reply #32048 on: August 18, 2021, 05:28:18 PM »
The way better data the networks have is not “stuff like that.”

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #32049 on: August 19, 2021, 10:46:57 AM »
So that Gswaim guy just blocks everyone who counters him, huh?