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« Reply #30600 on: March 04, 2020, 09:09:07 AM »
I don't know what it takes to read that thing, but this summary is from reddit:

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TL;DR Between now and when the Pac-12’s media rights deal — and accompanying Grant of Rights agreement — runs out in spring 2024, the Big 12 needs to invite USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Arizona and Arizona State. They very well might do it.

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« Reply #30601 on: March 04, 2020, 09:12:35 AM »
drop wv and baylor, grab az schools and usc/ucla

Southwest div

USC
UCLA
ASU
AU
TT
Texas

Northeast

OU
OSU
KU
KSU
ISU
TCU

or you flop TCU and Texas if Texas would rather have that.

Or you boot TCU, and have the Big11 with 10 game round robin for football and 20 for bball.

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« Reply #30602 on: March 04, 2020, 09:14:31 AM »
USC
UCLA
ASU
Arizona
Texas
Tech

OU
OSU
KU
K-State
ISU
Colorado

this has the flavors i crave if we go past 10, but i don't want to get rid of the round robin

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« Reply #30603 on: March 04, 2020, 09:18:31 AM »
Weren't Texas and UCLA all horny to play in the same division years ago?

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« Reply #30604 on: March 04, 2020, 09:21:43 AM »
That's what i'm saying, it will give Texas fans trips to cali/az, not sure OU will be down.  Colorado is the only team that left the 12 i want back.

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« Reply #30605 on: March 04, 2020, 09:27:58 AM »
We should kick Baylor and TCU out. Don't invite WSU, Utah, Colorado, and Cal. Each division plays a 7 game round robin with 2 cross division games that don't count for division standing except to break a 3 way tie. Champs play in a CCG.

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« Reply #30606 on: March 04, 2020, 09:28:41 AM »
We can't actually kick anyone out, though. Too mean.

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« Reply #30607 on: March 04, 2020, 09:31:32 AM »
We can't actually kick anyone out, though. Too mean.

I'm not sure if we can convince the California schools to share a conference with a pro-rape backwater institution like Baylor. TCU would be difficult, but maybe doable.

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« Reply #30608 on: March 04, 2020, 11:02:42 AM »
Baylor has to be on double secret probation by now. Just wait until their next mess up (the way they go that’ll probably be next week) and revoke their charter

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« Reply #30609 on: March 04, 2020, 12:13:28 PM »
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« Reply #30610 on: March 04, 2020, 07:58:54 PM »
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LOOKS LIKE THE CONVERSATION IS BEING BROUGHT UP AGAIN!
 
Formation of a Pac-12/Big-12 Strategic Alliance Deemed “Very Likely”
UCLA isn’t going to become the Big-12’s 11th member, but one former Big-12 athletic director deemed the eventual formation of a strategic alliance between the Pac-12 and the Big-12 – on tier-one rights (as was first discussed back in ’12) – as “very likely.” The move simply makes too much sense for it not to happen. 24 schools, spread across 4 time zones, would generate the leverage needed to ensure future growth in the value of their collective media rights; and the addition of several new opponents on each school’s home schedule would help to solve college football’s attendance problems (at least in the short-term).

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« Reply #30611 on: March 04, 2020, 09:51:08 PM »
California will start paying their players in the next couple of years.  If we cherry pick the California schools, the Big XII will be paying their players.  Will make for the top players in the nation to play for the new Big XVI. 
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« Reply #30612 on: August 11, 2020, 05:48:31 PM »
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Hi Everyone! Just a reminder that Big 12 TV deal runs out in the Spring of 2024.  So, we have at most 5 more seasons (if we play in 2020).  I doubt that the TV networks and other conferences wait until Spring of '24 to start the vulture circling.  Sooooo, we have maybe, what, 2 to 3 more peaceful seasons before the crap storm begins again?  :dunno:

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« Reply #30613 on: August 11, 2020, 06:51:02 PM »
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Hi Everyone! Just a reminder that Big 12 TV deal runs out in the Spring of 2024.  So, we have at most 5 more seasons (if we play in 2020).  I doubt that the TV networks and other conferences wait until Spring of '24 to start the vulture circling.  Sooooo, we have maybe, what, 2 to 3 more peaceful seasons before the crap storm begins again?  :dunno:

I mark long lengths of time in conference TV contracts the same way they marked time with winters in GoT. Last contract/realignment I quit work to finish my masters.
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« Reply #30614 on: August 11, 2020, 07:49:13 PM »
We need to get Nebraska back along with Iowa or Minnesota to go back to twelve.
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« Reply #30615 on: August 11, 2020, 08:04:36 PM »
:babywillie:

Hi Everyone! Just a reminder that Big 12 TV deal runs out in the Spring of 2024.  So, we have at most 5 more seasons (if we play in 2020).  I doubt that the TV networks and other conferences wait until Spring of '24 to start the vulture circling.  Sooooo, we have maybe, what, 2 to 3 more peaceful seasons before the crap storm begins again?  :dunno:

2023 for the Pac 12. This probably starts up again at the conclusion of the fall 2021 season.

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« Reply #30616 on: August 11, 2020, 08:09:01 PM »
We need to get Nebraska back along with Iowa or Minnesota to go back to twelve.

The only way this even has a chance of happening is if Nebraska and Iowa file suit claiming that the postponed/cancelled season was a breach of contract, releasing them from their Grant of Rights. Iowa doesn't want to be in the same conference as Iowa State and I'm guessing Nebraska will never admit to making a mistake so nobody is suing anyone else to get into the Big 12.

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« Reply #30617 on: August 11, 2020, 10:56:33 PM »
Just spitting, MIR.  I know with the network contracts the P5 conferences have, there isn't much of a chance of movement like started in '10.
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« Reply #30618 on: August 12, 2020, 12:11:29 AM »
I think there's a chance of some upheaval, just not with those two schools. Some of the Pac 12 schools seem legitimately unhappy, but clearly Larry Scott still has the important ones he needs. I think the others are just stuck, but we'll see.

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« Reply #30619 on: August 12, 2020, 08:01:04 AM »
:babywillie:

Hi Everyone! Just a reminder that Big 12 TV deal runs out in the Spring of 2024.  So, we have at most 5 more seasons (if we play in 2020).  I doubt that the TV networks and other conferences wait until Spring of '24 to start the vulture circling.  Sooooo, we have maybe, what, 2 to 3 more peaceful seasons before the crap storm begins again?  :dunno:

2023 for the Pac 12. This probably starts up again at the conclusion of the fall 2021 season.

OK, wow yeah. I had forgotten about PAC 12 being before us.  Yikes.  It's going to get nuts next year.

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« Reply #30620 on: August 12, 2020, 08:35:26 AM »
As great/exciting as the BBS'n was back during the conference realignment saga of 2010-11 I don't know if I can handle it again. We almost ended up in the MWC or AAC  :frown:

Although if we do end up there this go around it wont hurt as much since our lord and savior Patrick Mahomes will be slinging darts for the KC Police Chiefs for the next 10+ years

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« Reply #30621 on: August 12, 2020, 08:51:06 AM »
As great/exciting as the BBS'n was back during the conference realignment saga of 2010-11 I don't know if I can handle it again. We almost ended up in the MWC or AAC  :frown:

Although if we do end up there this go around it wont hurt as much since our lord and savior Patrick Mahomes will be slinging darts for the KC Police Chiefs for the next 10+ years
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« Reply #30622 on: August 12, 2020, 10:54:17 AM »
I’m much less worried that something will happen that results in K-State not being in a power conference this time around.

However, if it did happen, the impact I see it having on me personally would be much bigger. Last time around we’d had ~7 seasons middling at best. I didn’t have kids, so road trips were a much bigger factor. I was much more cool with the thought of going 8-4 to 11-1 in the MWC with MWC roadies then than I am now. K-State football served a different utility for me then with lower expectations in the B12.

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« Reply #30623 on: August 12, 2020, 11:09:28 AM »
As great/exciting as the BBS'n was back during the conference realignment saga of 2010-11 I don't know if I can handle it again. We almost ended up in the MWC or AAC  :frown:

Although if we do end up there this go around it wont hurt as much since our lord and savior Patrick Mahomes will be slinging darts for the KC Police Chiefs for the next 10+ years

We didn't though, worst case scenario was a Big 12 with some combo of BYU, Colorado State, Cincinnati, Louisville, UCF and USF replacing UT, OU, OSU, and maybe Tech. However, I still don't think that was close. OU and OSU being alone in the Pac 10 would have been awful. Tech in a P5 conference other than the Big 12 was lol.

Also that would have been worse for the Pac 12 than Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers has been for the Big 10. They absolutely would have come back when this media deal came up, the Pac 12 might have kicked them out.

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« Reply #30624 on: August 12, 2020, 12:24:14 PM »
As great/exciting as the BBS'n was back during the conference realignment saga of 2010-11 I don't know if I can handle it again. We almost ended up in the MWC or AAC  :frown:

Although if we do end up there this go around it wont hurt as much since our lord and savior Patrick Mahomes will be slinging darts for the KC Police Chiefs for the next 10+ years

We didn't though, worst case scenario was a Big 12 with some combo of BYU, Colorado State, Cincinnati, Louisville, UCF and USF replacing UT, OU, OSU, and maybe Tech. However, I still don't think that was close. OU and OSU being alone in the Pac 10 would have been awful. Tech in a P5 conference other than the Big 12 was lol.

Also that would have been worse for the Pac 12 than Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers has been for the Big 10. They absolutely would have come back when this media deal came up, the Pac 12 might have kicked them out.

You can choose to trust me or not. I had a source very close to Boren, as in I gave a eulogy at his funeral that Boren attended. There were 45 minutes where Boren thought he was going to the PAC with Texas and a group of others.
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