Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[MadCat]

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/788104164949667840

 

[MakeItRain]

i'm interested in hearing one reason why adding any of these programs would give a big 12 team a better shot at the playoff next year and beyond.

I don't think this is about that. The conversation has been hung on before the cfp. I think the stupid return of the championship game was related to the cfp. I think expansion is about money and the appearance of stability. I think Boren being sensitive about some media talking about the supposed instability of the conference is why expansion is still on the table.

[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/788104164949667840

I wonder if Cincinnati was a no because BYU and Houston didn't get selected.

[Trim]

This is good for KSU b/c 8th out of 10 is better than 10th out of 12.

[CNS]

That Cinci twitter guy is about to get a lot more friends on twitter.

[That_Guy]

That Cinci twitter guy is about to get a lot more friends on twitter.

Lol


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[Panjandrum]

https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/788104164949667840

I wonder if Cincinnati was a no because BYU and Houston didn't get selected.

I think you're right; it hinged on BYU.

I'll continue to wonder if we would have taken BYU had Baylor not had their issues.  The anger of this conference directed towards Baylor this summer was palpable.  Bowlsby was openly admonishing them during media days.

We most likely weren't going to risk another PR nightmare.

[TheHamburglar]

This made me laugh.

https://twitter.com/rodger_sherman/status/788109074323873793

[troubledscribe]

We need to bail on the Big12 now and join another Power conference so we don't get stuck in some shithole.

[MadCat]

Who do we know that would take K-State in?  hmmm...maybe we could use KU as a bargaining chip somehow

[Yard Dog]

i'm interested in hearing one reason why adding any of these programs would give a big 12 team a better shot at the playoff next year and beyond.

My thought has always been that it allows more teams to have strong records making the conference look better as a whole. This means more teams in bowl games and more money for the conference because of it. It helps a team like K-State to not only look better, but also have less games against elite opponents. The perception of strength and competitiveness would translate into a CFP bid. 

[_33]

Conferences are so stupid.  Why even have conferences anymore?  Remember when Missouri joined the SEC? LOL, so stupid.

[star seed 7]

Conferences are so stupid.  Why even have conferences anymore?  Remember when Missouri joined the SEC? LOL, so stupid.

Really no need, let the ncaa handle scheduling

[MadCat]

Eliminate recruiting and hold a high school draft.

[DQ12]

i'm interested in hearing one reason why adding any of these programs would give a big 12 team a better shot at the playoff next year and beyond.

I don't think this is about that. The conversation has been hung on before the cfp. I think the stupid return of the championship game was related to the cfp. I think expansion is about money and the appearance of stability. I think Boren being sensitive about some media talking about the supposed instability of the conference is why expansion is still on the table.

I understand that.  I was referring to Panj's post.  Probably should've quoted.

In any event, adding teams does nothing to make the conference more "stable."  The stability of the conference hinges on UT and OU.  Adding BYU/Cincy/Houston or any of the other dorks does nothing to keep them around.  If UT/OU leave after the GOR, then the whole thing blows up, and the stragglers (likely us) will be able to join whatever conference Cincy is in anyways.

But in the mean time, I want to keep the round robin.

[michigancat]

i'm interested in hearing one reason why adding any of these programs would give a big 12 team a better shot at the playoff next year and beyond.

I don't think this is about that. The conversation has been hung on before the cfp. I think the stupid return of the championship game was related to the cfp. I think expansion is about money and the appearance of stability. I think Boren being sensitive about some media talking about the supposed instability of the conference is why expansion is still on the table.

I understand that.  I was referring to Panj's post.  Probably should've quoted.

In any event, adding teams does nothing to make the conference more "stable."  The stability of the conference hinges on UT and OU.  Adding BYU/Cincy/Houston or any of the other dorks does nothing to keep them around.  If UT/OU leave after the GOR, then the whole thing blows up, and the stragglers (likely us) will be able to join whatever conference Cincy is in anyways.

But in the mean time, I want to keep the round robin.

I mean, we play OU and Texas back to back. That's huge for us.

[DQ12]

idk what you mean rusty.

[MakeItRain]

LHN lasts longer than the GOR so I'm sure at some point the GOR will be extended to at least match the end date of the LHN.

[Pete]

On the one hand, I am happy because this is what's best for KSU, but in the other hand I kinda wanted to be entertained by the chaos of expansion.

[Stupid Fitz]

On the one hand, I am happy because this is what's best for KSU, but in the other hand I kinda wanted to be entertained by the chaos of expansion.

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Why is this best for KSU?  I have low CRIQ.

[Rage Against the McKee]

On the one hand, I am happy because this is what's best for KSU, but in the other hand I kinda wanted to be entertained by the chaos of expansion.

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Why is this best for KSU?  I have low CRIQ.

It's best for KSU because we get to keep playing OU and Texas every year.

[Pete]

LHN lasts longer than the GOR so I'm sure at some point the GOR will be extended to at least match the end date of the LHN.

Couldn't UT just take the LHN deal with them to whatever new conference they join or independence? For example, If I were the PAC I would let them do their own deal.  Also, if they went Independent they could keep it, and separately sell their tier 1 and 2, right?


I'm not saying they will do these things, I am just saying that UT, IMO, has LOADS of options and ways to keep making a eff load of money as long as College football exists.

[Pete]

On the one hand, I am happy because this is what's best for KSU, but in the other hand I kinda wanted to be entertained by the chaos of expansion.

.

Why is this best for KSU?  I have low CRIQ.

It's best for KSU because we get to keep playing OU and Texas every year.

And fewer competitors in the market place for recruits.  Also, Trims point about 8 out of 10 being better than 10 out of 12.

[MakeItRain]

LHN lasts longer than the GOR so I'm sure at some point the GOR will be extended to at least match the end date of the LHN.

Couldn't UT just take the LHN deal with them to whatever new conference they join or independence? For example, If I were the PAC I would let them do their own deal.  Also, if they went Independent they could keep it, and separately sell their tier 1 and 2, right?


I'm not saying they will do these things, I am just saying that UT, IMO, has LOADS of options and ways to keep making a eff load of money as long as College football exists.

The PAC 12 presidents have already made it clear that they aren't taking Texas with the LHN. That just makes their issues even worse. And at Texas becoming independent, just