Are you "Upper Middle Class"?

[michigancat]

We ask ours to take prepare meals for, and clean up after, the kids. She's not a servant.

So she does everything CNS mentioned except dust?

[Dr Rick Daris]

We ask ours to take prepare meals for, and clean up after, the kids. She's not a servant.

you're only paying her 12/hour so yeah. throw a couple more dollars at her and she might actually work. i mean you get what you pay for and you're paying babysitter money. call her a nanny if it makes you feel better though, i'm not the judging type.

[sys]

caring for a child includes feeding it, but does not include cleaning the entire house surrounding the child.  ksuw's line seems pretty clear and logical.

[chum1]

I've had a nanny. They're not housekeepers. I also paid cash and did not withhold taxes. eff the police.

[michigancat]

really, paying a grownup $10/hour to watch two kids all day (without even doing the dishes) is borderline insulting

[sys]

I paid cash and did not withhold taxes. eff the police.

good work, chum1.

[sys]

really, paying a grownup $10/hour to watch two kids all day (without even doing the dishes) is borderline insulting

i have no idea why an adult human would tolerate the presence of a child.

[CNS]

really, paying a grownup $10/hour to watch two kids all day (without even doing the dishes) is borderline insulting

I wouldn't leave my kids with someone who could only get $10/hr from their job.  Unless it was an actual babysitter.  Like, first job,  saving money for a car type, babysitter.

[Dr Rick Daris]

caring for a child includes feeding it, but does not include cleaning the entire house surrounding the child.  ksuw's line seems pretty clear and logical.

i'm not sure who advocated "cleaning the entire house" but i can tell you most full time nannies do some very light housework. dishes, vacuum. like anything it's open to some negotiation. pay a decent wage and you'll get a good person who would be happy to help out a bit given the fact that they are at your house for more waking hours than you are.

[michigancat]

really, paying a grownup $10/hour to watch two kids all day (without even doing the dishes) is borderline insulting

i have no idea why an adult human would tolerate the presence of a child.

everyone has their price

[Dugout DickStone]

Glad I'm done with that mess

[Asteriskhead]

Why the hell would anyone want to have kids?

[chum1]

Why the hell would anyone want to have kids?

Why do anything challenging ever?

[Asteriskhead]

Why the hell would anyone want to have kids?

Why do anything challenging ever?

 

[lopakman]

It amazes me that people can live off of 50k a year.  I don't understand why they don't get better jobs. weird

it amazes me that people that make more money than $50k don't understand this. Basically, I think you should understand this, or you are stupid.


Gonna win 'em all!

I don't want to understand it because it sounds horrible but to each their own and if you can make it work and are happy then I think that's great. 

[Dugout DickStone]

Let's not get classist

[Rage Against the McKee]

It amazes me that people can live off of 50k a year.  I don't understand why they don't get better jobs. weird

it amazes me that people that make more money than $50k don't understand this. Basically, I think you should understand this, or you are stupid.


Gonna win 'em all!

I don't want to understand it because it sounds horrible but to each their own and if you can make it work and are happy then I think that's great.

It would really just depend on where you live and whether or not you have kids. A joint income of $50k would be pretty tight with kids, but not that bad without them.