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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2014, 03:37:42 PM »
PPP seems to be the most important right

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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2014, 03:41:30 PM »
PPP seems to be the most important right

Yes. And these are pure offense and defense numbers, no points from special teams. Special teams would be a separate thing to look at as well as turnovers. I only have good turnover stats back to 2000.

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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2014, 03:57:48 PM »
no need to do this, but I always thought points per possession was a better indicator. it also seems like it's harder to find that stat than points per play for football. Why?
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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2014, 05:01:26 PM »
no need to do this, but I always thought points per possession was a better indicator. it also seems like it's harder to find that stat than points per play for football. Why?

It would be great, but possession/drive based stats are hard to get except for the last few years. It would take looking at every box score to get them.

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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2014, 06:42:57 PM »
I like how nicname bunched Josh Buhl in with those '98 studs  :love:
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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2014, 07:14:53 PM »
2001 team should've won like 9 games easy

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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2014, 07:37:01 PM »
nice work _Fan.   :thumbs:

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« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2014, 07:50:22 PM »
So Snyder leans heavily on the pass when he has the least amount of talent, interesting.

Said in his book that passing is a talent equalizer.  Much tougher to be bigger and stronger in the trenches

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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2014, 10:54:54 PM »

that was our best year to win it all

2002 never ever gets brought up in the best team discussion, its like a football discussion black hole. Those numbers are :surprised: the only thing I really remember about 2002 is that Holiday Bowl and T Suggs totally wrecking everything but it not being enough. Ell was a tough sonofabitch.

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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2014, 12:36:53 AM »
2002 never ever gets brought up in the best team discussion, its like a football discussion black hole. Those numbers are :surprised: the only thing I really remember about 2002 is that Holiday Bowl and T Suggs totally wrecking everything but it not being enough. Ell was a tough sonofabitch.
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Re: Every LHC LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2014, 12:40:04 AM »
I :Crybaby: a little when I saw 1998 knowing what could have been but also :emawkid: because that was when I was in school and got to see something so damn dominant

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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2014, 12:44:30 AM »
02 was an amazing team, especially defensively
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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2014, 04:15:27 AM »

that was our best year to win it all

2002 never ever gets brought up in the best team discussion, its like a football discussion black hole. Those numbers are :surprised: the only thing I really remember about 2002 is that Holiday Bowl and T Suggs totally wrecking everything but it not being enough. Ell was a tough sonofabitch.

I remember them being awesome and bring them up in the best team discussion all the time. They had the best defense I've ever seen and had Ell, Sproles and JT beta version. I routinely hear people say that the 2002 team was better than 2003, not that that necessarily means they are in the best team discussion.

How the hell they ever lost to Colorado I'll never no.
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Re: Every LHC LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2014, 06:04:14 AM »
We lost to Colorado because Phil Bennett is a dumbass

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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2014, 06:35:04 AM »
Roberson was also still a work in progress in 02. Against UT and CU he completed less than 40% at about 6 yards per attempt.

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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2014, 09:02:40 AM »
Man, if he played ten yrs later it would have been for McNeese state.

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Re: Every LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2014, 09:03:22 AM »
Man, if he played ten yrs later it would have been for McNeese state.

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Re: Every LHC LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2014, 09:06:13 AM »
Roberson was also still a work in progress in 02. Against UT and CU he completed less than 40% at about 6 yards per attempt.

we also avoided OU/Tech/A&M
Nubb was terrible, KU terrible, mizzou, terrible etc.

Defense was legit though.

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« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2014, 10:02:19 AM »
We lost to Colorado because Phil Bennett is a dumbass

You are right that the game was blown by our DC, but Bennet was gone by then. It was Iowa reject Bob Elliot in 2002. Bret Bielma might have been listed as Co DC, but I always though that was more a courtesy than anything to keep him from moving on or to give him more money and that Elliot was calling the shots on D.

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Re: Every LHC LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder Offense and Defense Ever
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2014, 10:43:34 AM »
We lost to Colorado because Phil Bennett is a dumbass

You are right that the game was blown by our DC, but Bennet was gone by then. It was Iowa reject Bob Elliot in 2002. Bret Bielma might have been listed as Co DC, but I always though that was more a courtesy than anything to keep him from moving on or to give him more money and that Elliot was calling the shots on D.

Vegas said we were the best team in the country in 2002.  Would've been favored over anybody.