not just missouri, best to avoid all cops

[steve dave]

Yeah, there’s a very terrified little person inside a lot of cops (and a lot of gun people)


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[MakeItRain]

A Fort Worth Cop Killed A Black Woman Inside Her Home After Her Neighbor Called Police Because Her Door Was Open
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/fort-worth-police-killed-black-woman-inside-her-home

They're not going to release this dudes name until he has a chance to scrub his social media

[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/DrRJKavanagh/status/1183294504276779014

[michigancat]

cops shouldn't have guns

[gatoveintisiete]

We don't need cops, get rid of them, they kill too many people

[sys]

cops shouldn't have guns

We don't need cops, get rid of them, they kill too many people

people used to lol @ me 10-15 years ago.

[MakeItRain]

We don't need cops, get rid of them, they kill too many people

I'm down. I have never been helped by a cop and I hope no one calls one for me least I end up dead like this woman did.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Police presence is probably the only thing keeping all of the good guys with guns from going on murdering rampages.

[gatoveintisiet]

We could do just fine with the National Guard and save tons of money.

[Brock Landers]

cops shouldn't have guns

I'm starting to come around on this line of thinking. Too many of them have absolutely no business carrying a firearm.  Give them some non-lethal options and call it good.

We could do just fine with the National Guard and save tons of money.

Bad idea IMO.  The militarization of the police is part of the problem.

[sonofdaxjones]

Guyger should have gotten 20 to 25 minimum.

This guy should get 30 plus minimum.

[Institutional Control]

So, the cop in Fort Worth was charged with murder.


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[MakeItRain]

Guyger should have gotten 20 to 25 minimum.

This guy should get 30 plus minimum.

I was okay with her sentence.

[gatoveintisiete]

Murder is not enough

[catastrophe]

Guyger should have gotten 20 to 25 minimum.

This guy should get 30 plus minimum.

I was okay with her sentence.

Agreed. She’s clearly a terrible cop, and maybe not an awesome person, but 10 years is plenty enough for punitive effect and she’s not exactly a danger to society going forward.

I don’t know all the facts for the Ft. Worth cop, but the problem in this one seems much more institutional than individual. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got a lighter sentence, but he def needs to no longer be a cop, and that police force needs a SERIOUS overhaul if they can produce a cop who even thinks it’s a good idea to shoot someone in their home during a “check it out” type call.

Also really disturbing the PD apparently released photos of a gun found in the house to try to provide some cya. I hope a civil suit is available.

[sonofdaxjones]

As far as the Guyger case goes I guess I'll need to get some more details, but I don't see how walking into a man's home and just blowing him away because you were "confused" merits just 10 years.   

As far as this latest situation goes, it's not acceptable, a strong message has to be sent.  I know cops, I know it's a hard job, but that officer gave that poor woman no chance, he did not announce himself or his intent.   Anyone that encounters someone unexpectedly on their property at 2:30 in the morning is going to be flustered and surprised at first and need a moment to figure out what's going on.   

Two innocent people gunned down in their own home for doing nothing but being in their own home. 

[CHONGS]

The police are a reflection of the society they exist in.

[catastrophe]

As far as the Guyger case goes I guess I'll need to get some more details, but I don't see how walking into a man's home and just blowing him away because you were "confused" merits just 10 years.   

What’s the benefit to giving her 20 or 30 or 40 years instead?

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think 10 years is probably enough for most murders, honestly.

[Institutional Control]

I think 10 years is probably enough for most murders, honestly.

Most? No way. Some? Sure.

[gatoveintisiete]

I can see it from both perspectives,  If you murder my family member I want you to get life in prison but if my family member murders you I think he can rehabilitate and pay his debt to society in 10 years.

[MakeItRain]

Guyger should have gotten 20 to 25 minimum.

This guy should get 30 plus minimum.

I was okay with her sentence.

Agreed. She’s clearly a terrible cop, and maybe not an awesome person, but 10 years is plenty enough for punitive effect and she’s not exactly a danger to society going forward.

I don’t know all the facts for the Ft. Worth cop, but the problem in this one seems much more institutional than individual. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got a lighter sentence, but he def needs to no longer be a cop, and that police force needs a SERIOUS overhaul if they can produce a cop who even thinks it’s a good idea to shoot someone in their home during a “check it out” type call.

Also really disturbing the PD apparently released photos of a gun found in the house to try to provide some cya. I hope a civil suit is available.

No, just no. This was an on duty officer who approached his job differently because of the neighborhood it was in. You can make a very easy case for first degree murder here, if he saw someone in that house he was going to shoot. It was obvious how he and his partner drove to the house and all of their actions leading up to the shooting. It was a welfare check. Policing is obviously screwed up, this dude doesn't get to use that as an out here.

He needs to be sentenced exactly like someone who lives in that neighborhood would if they just walked up to a window and shot someone in the chest after looking right at them. That being said I completely change my mind about Guyer. If Botham Jean shot her in the same manner, he isn't getting 10 years. These storm troopers need to stop being able to use their badge as a shield for lawlessness.

[catastrophe]

The fact he was on duty gets him a ton of get out of jail free cards that Gueyger didn’t have. I get where you’re coming from, and I’d be in favor of laws making it easier to prosecute this type of conduct, but that’s not the system we’re living in.

[sys]

I think 10 years is probably enough for most murders, honestly.

i agree, but as long as we're giving civilians longer sentences, i don't want cops getting relatively shorter sentences.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think 10 years is probably enough for most murders, honestly.

i agree, but as long as we're giving civilians longer sentences, i don't want cops getting relatively shorter sentences.

Yeah, the cops should get sentenced just like everyone else. I was speaking generally.