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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #450 on: August 24, 2015, 10:48:52 AM »
When will they release the dash/body cam footage from Wichita?


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« Reply #452 on: August 24, 2015, 11:43:33 AM »
Dan Carlin did a pretty good Common Sense a year or so ago on no knock raids and early morning SWAT activities.  He noted stats that showed the use of SWAT teams nationally went from something like 300 times in a year to something like 40000 times per year and noted how federal funds are linked to drug raids, which is the vast majority of what they are used for now.

He was basically saying that police depts are funding themselves by SWAT'ing the eff out of anything they can to earn Fed $. 

He linked that to the militarization of the police force and the issues with the war on drugs in the same podcast.  It was a good listen.


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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #453 on: August 24, 2015, 11:47:44 AM »
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/stop-fcking-crying-mass-cops-hold-naked-woman-and-kids-at-gunpoint-after-raiding-wrong-apartment/

Absolutely disgusting and pathetic.

"but court documents show the man police were looking for had been arrested nearly two weeks earlier and listed another address as his home."

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« Reply #454 on: August 24, 2015, 12:02:15 PM »
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/stop-fcking-crying-mass-cops-hold-naked-woman-and-kids-at-gunpoint-after-raiding-wrong-apartment/

Absolutely disgusting and pathetic.

"but court documents show the man police were looking for had been arrested nearly two weeks earlier and listed another address as his home."

 the lack of professionalism, appropriate training, and due diligence seems to be a recurring theme in this thread.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #455 on: August 24, 2015, 08:31:47 PM »
crap is not right.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #456 on: August 25, 2015, 09:55:10 AM »
[ednksu]Hey if you don't want to be treated like a criminal, then don't let criminals randomly use your address unknowingly[/ednksu]

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #458 on: August 28, 2015, 04:32:42 PM »
[ednksu]Hey if you don't want to be treated like a criminal, then don't let criminals randomly use your address unknowingly[/ednksu]
lol try so hard
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #459 on: August 29, 2015, 02:02:17 AM »
I hope Jamycheal Mitchell becomes the face of the need for reforms across the criminal justice system in this country. And when people scoff at #BlackLivesMatter they remember how this guy was treated. But so few will know this story and even fewer will remember. This is the saddest link yet, IMO.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/black-man-held-for-months-for-stealing-5-worth-of-snacks-fou

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« Reply #460 on: August 29, 2015, 02:08:04 AM »
Not sure if this aspect of Freddie Gray has been talked about.  The guy had the deck stacked against him his entire life.  He should have had some sort of medical card or something to alert police of his mental status.  I mean they shouldn't have treated him like a regular criminal.



“Jesus,” Dan Levy, an assistant professor of pediatrics at Johns Hopkins University who has studied the effects of lead poisoning on youths, gasped when told of Gray’s levels. “The fact that Mr. Gray had these high levels of lead in all likelihood affected his ability to think and to self-regulate and profoundly affected his cognitive ability to process information.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/freddie-grays-life-a-study-in-the-sad-effects-of-lead-paint-on-poor-blacks/2015/04/29/0be898e6-eea8-11e4-8abc-d6aa3bad79dd_story.html

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #461 on: August 29, 2015, 08:27:56 PM »
This, unbelievably, is not an April Fools prank
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/philadelphia-police-shakedown_55d791c2e4b08cd3359c30f5

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #463 on: August 31, 2015, 07:32:33 AM »
14 police officers killed in August, 7 in the last 8 days including the ambush on the deputy in Texas.   Last week multiple officers in the KC metro were shot at . . . Can't imagine why law enforcement is on edge.   

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« Reply #464 on: August 31, 2015, 08:33:03 AM »
You want to talk about a group of people America has truly mumped over and never had a voice, Native Americans. 
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« Reply #465 on: August 31, 2015, 08:34:22 AM »
You want to talk about a group of people America has truly mumped over and never had a voice, Native Americans.

Pretty terrible

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« Reply #466 on: August 31, 2015, 10:20:08 AM »
14 police officers killed in August, 7 in the last 8 days including the ambush on the deputy in Texas.   Last week multiple officers in the KC metro were shot at . . . Can't imagine why law enforcement is on edge.

Yet overall the number of officers killed in action is down nationwide. If you're a cop getting shot it is an accepted occupational hazard, having rogue cops barge in your house shouldn't be a hazard of taking a shower.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #467 on: August 31, 2015, 10:25:34 AM »
So getting gunned down execution style while pumping gas is "an accepted occupational hazard"?  Fascinating.

Oh and since you'll knee jerk this, I don't support rogue cops either.   

What percentage of the interactions between law enforcement and the public involve "rogue cops", on a nationwide basis?

Is a police officer driving down the road and having his car blasted with a hail of gunfire, "an accepted occupational hazard"?



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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #468 on: August 31, 2015, 10:27:13 AM »
So getting gunned down execution style while pumping gas is "an accepted occupational hazard"?  Fascinating.

Oh and since you'll knee jerk this, I don't support rogue cops either.   

What percentage of the interactions between law enforcement and the public involve "rogue cops", on a nationwide basis?

Is a police officer driving down the road and having his car blasted with a hail of gunfire, "an accepted occupational hazard"?

I think he means "accepted occupational hazard" is something that could happen because you are a police officer.  getting shot at seems to fit that

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #469 on: August 31, 2015, 10:27:46 AM »
it is apparent that getting gunned down at any time doing anything is an occupational hazard of being an american in america

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« Reply #470 on: August 31, 2015, 10:28:59 AM »
I suppose, what' the generally accepted threshold of gunned down lawn enforcement officers before a national movement to understand the situation needs to be started?


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« Reply #471 on: August 31, 2015, 10:49:07 AM »
I suppose, what' the generally accepted threshold of gunned down lawn enforcement officers before a national movement to understand the situation needs to be started?

I think as rates are going down even as population goes up, you are trending in the preferred direction.  Yes?

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« Reply #472 on: August 31, 2015, 10:50:26 AM »
how many cops were knifed to death in that same timeframe? probably like double?

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« Reply #473 on: August 31, 2015, 10:58:24 AM »
I suppose, what' the generally accepted threshold of gunned down lawn enforcement officers before a national movement to understand the situation needs to be started?

We should arm the cops

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« Reply #474 on: August 31, 2015, 10:59:08 AM »
I suppose, what' the generally accepted threshold of gunned down lawn enforcement officers before a national movement to understand the situation needs to be started?

We should arm the cops

makes sense. if the cops were carrying guns and wearing body armor, attackers would definitely be deterred.