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On Aug. 17, police in Ferguson, Mo., wait to advance after using tear gas to disperse a crowd protesting the shooting death of Michael Brown. (Charlie Riedel/Associated Press)
By Carol Anderson August 29
Carol Anderson is an associate professor of African American studies and history at Emory University and a public voices fellow with the Op-Ed Project. She is the author of “Bourgeois Radicals: The NAACP and the Struggle for Colonial Liberation, 1941-1960.”
When we look back on what happened in Ferguson, Mo., during the summer of 2014, it will be easy to think of it as yet one more episode of black rage ignited by yet another police killing of an unarmed African American male. But that has it precisely backward. What we’ve actually seen is the latest outbreak of white rage. Sure, it is cloaked in the niceties of law and order, but it is rage nonetheless.

Protests and looting naturally capture attention. But the real rage smolders in meetings where officials redraw precincts to dilute African American voting strength or seek to slash the government payrolls that have long served as sources of black employment. It goes virtually unnoticed, however, because white rage doesn’t have to take to the streets and face rubber bullets to be heard. Instead, white rage carries an aura of respectability and has access to the courts, police, legislatures and governors, who cast its efforts as noble, though they are actually driven by the most ignoble motivations.

White rage recurs in American history. It exploded after the Civil War, erupted again to undermine the Supreme Court’s Brown v. Board of Education decision and took on its latest incarnation with Barack Obama’s ascent to the White House. For every action of African American advancement, there’s a reaction, a backlash.

The North’s victory in the Civil War did not bring peace. Instead, emancipation brought white resentment that the good ol’ days of black subjugation were over. Legislatures throughout the South scrambled to reinscribe white supremacy and restore the aura of legitimacy that the anti-slavery campaign had tarnished. Lawmakers in several states created the Black Codes, which effectively criminalized blackness, sanctioned forced labor and undermined every tenet of democracy. Even the federal authorities’ promise of 40 acres — land seized from traitors who had tried to destroy the United States of America — crumbled like dust.

Influential white legislators such as Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-Pa.) and Sen. Charles Sumner (R-Mass.) tried to make this nation live its creed, but they were no match for the swelling resentment that neutralized the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments, and welcomed the Supreme Court’s 1876 United States vs. Cruikshank decision, which undercut a law aimed at stopping the terror of the Ku Klux Klan.

Nearly 80 years later, Brown v. Board of Education seemed like another moment of triumph — with the ruling on the unconstitutionality of separate public schools for black and white students affirming African Americans’ rights as citizens. But black children, hungry for quality education, ran headlong into more white rage. Bricks and mobs at school doors were only the most obvious signs. In March 1956, 101 members of Congress issued the Southern Manifesto, declaring war on the Brown decision. Governors in Virginia, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia and elsewhere then launched “massive resistance.” They created a legal doctrine, interposition, that supposedly nullified any federal law or court decision with which a state disagreed. They passed legislation to withhold public funding from any school that abided by Brown. They shut down public school systems and used tax dollars to ensure that whites could continue their education at racially exclusive private academies. Black children were left to rot with no viable option.

A little more than half a century after Brown, the election of Obama gave hope to the country and the world that a new racial climate had emerged in America, or that it would. But such audacious hopes would be short-lived. A rash of voter-suppression legislation, a series of unfathomable Supreme Court decisions, the rise of stand-your-ground laws and continuing police brutality make clear that Obama’s election and reelection have unleashed yet another wave of fear and anger.

It’s more subtle — less overtly racist — than in 1865 or even 1954. It’s a remake of the Southern Strategy, crafted in the wake of the civil rights movement to exploit white resentment against African Americans, and deployed with precision by Presidents Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. As Reagan’s key political strategist, Lee Atwater, explained in a 1981 interview: “You start out in 1954 by saying, ‘N-----, n-----, n-----.’ By 1968 you can’t say ‘n-----’ — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like ‘forced busing,’ ‘states’ rights’ and all that stuff. You’re getting so abstract now you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things, and a byproduct of them is blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I’m not saying that.” (The interview was originally published anonymously, and only years later did it emerge that Atwater was the subject.)

Now, under the guise of protecting the sanctity of the ballot box, conservatives have devised measures — such as photo ID requirements — to block African Americans’ access to the polls. A joint report by the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund and the NAACP emphasized that the ID requirements would adversely affect more than 6 million African American voters. (Twenty-five percent of black Americans lack a government-issued photo ID, the report noted, compared with only 8 percent of white Americans.) The Supreme Court sanctioned this discrimination in Shelby County v. Holder , which gutted the Voting Rights Act and opened the door to 21st-century versions of 19th-century literacy tests and poll taxes.

The economic devastation of the Great Recession also shows African Americans under siege. The foreclosure crisis hit black Americans harder than any other group in the United States. A 2013 report by researchers at Brandeis University calculated that “half the collective wealth of African-American families was stripped away during the Great Recession,” in large part because of the impact on home equity. In the process, the wealth gap between blacks and whites grew: Right before the recession, white Americans had four times more wealth than black Americans, on average; by 2010, the gap had increased to six times. This was a targeted hit. Communities of color were far more likely to have riskier, higher-interest-rate loans than white communities, with good credit scores often making no difference.

Add to this the tea party movement’s assault on so-called Big Government, which despite the sanitized language of fiscal responsibility constitutes an attack on African American jobs. Public-sector employment, where there is less discrimination in hiring and pay, has traditionally been an important venue for creating a black middle class.

So when you think of Ferguson, don’t just think of black resentment at a criminal justice system that allows a white police officer to put six bullets into an unarmed black teen. Consider the economic dislocation of black America. Remember a Florida judge instructing a jury to focus only on the moment when George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin interacted, thus transforming a 17-year-old, unarmed kid into a big, scary black guy, while the grown man who stalked him through the neighborhood with a loaded gun becomes a victim. Remember the assault on the Voting Rights Act. Look at Connick v. Thompson, a partisan 5-4 Supreme Court decision in 2011 that ruled it was legal for a city prosecutor’s staff to hide evidence that exonerated a black man who was rotting on death row for 14 years. And think of a recent study by Stanford University psychology researchers concluding that, when white people were told that black Americans are incarcerated in numbers far beyond their proportion of the population, “they reported being more afraid of crime and more likely to support the kinds of punitive policies that exacerbate the racial disparities,” such as three-strikes or stop-and-frisk laws.

Only then does Ferguson make sense. It’s about white rage.



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Re: Ferguson: Black rage or white rage against progress (save the TLDNR)
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2014, 01:57:19 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2014, 03:26:44 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2014, 10:26:39 PM »
If I was a young black man I would be enraged by the economic inequity that plagues this demographic group.  High unemployment, low wage jobs, poor schools, and indusries that use to employee middle class blacks lost because of environmental and other industry killing federal regs.  So they look to blame white America, the tea party, or conservatives.  Maybe they should look at brother Obama and his cohorts.  The President has failed this community.  He talks big but he has done nothing for the economy.  His environmental regulations and fight against energy has led to job losses.  Liberals fight to close poor schools and education reform.  Finally the pathway Obama has started for a flood of immigrants to become Obama Americans will take jobs away from our disadvantaged and poorest citizens. Rage needs to be directed towards those who prosper off promoting and pushing continuation of the hopeless plight of blacks living a hardscrabble existance.  These people offer no solution, only hate mongering.

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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2014, 10:59:41 PM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ferguson-wasnt-black-rage-against-copsit-was-white-rage-against-progress/2014/08/29/3055e3f4-2d75-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html

On Aug. 17, police in Ferguson, Mo., wait to advance after using tear gas to disperse a crowd protesting the shooting death of Michael Brown. (Charlie Riedel/Associated Press)
By Carol Anderson August 29
Carol Anderson is an associate professor of African American studies and history at Emory University and a public voices fellow with the Op-Ed Project. She is the author of “Bourgeois Radicals: The NAACP and the Struggle for Colonial Liberation, 1941-1960.”
When we look back on what happened in Ferguson, Mo., during the summer of 2014, it will be easy to think of it as yet one more episode of black rage ignited by yet another police killing of an unarmed African American male. But that has it precisely backward. What we’ve actually seen is the latest outbreak of white rage. Sure, it is cloaked in the niceties of law and order, but it is rage nonetheless.

Protests and looting naturally capture attention. But the real rage smolders in meetings where officials redraw precincts to dilute African American voting strength or seek to slash the government payrolls that have long served as sources of black employment.


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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2014, 11:53:07 PM »
If I was a young black man I would be enraged by the economic inequity that plagues this demographic group.  High unemployment, low wage jobs, poor schools, and indusries that use to employee middle class blacks lost because of environmental and other industry killing federal regs.  So they look to blame white America, the tea party, or conservatives.  Maybe they should look at brother Obama and his cohorts.  The President has failed this community.  He talks big but he has done nothing for the economy.  His environmental regulations and fight against energy has led to job losses.  Liberals fight to close poor schools and education reform.  Finally the pathway Obama has started for a flood of immigrants to become Obama Americans will take jobs away from our disadvantaged and poorest citizens. Rage needs to be directed towards those who prosper off promoting and pushing continuation of the hopeless plight of blacks living a hardscrabble existance.  These people offer no solution, only hate mongering.

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 06:41:13 AM »
If I was a young black man I would be enraged by the economic inequity that plagues this demographic group.  High unemployment, low wage jobs, poor schools, and indusries that use to employee middle class blacks lost because of environmental and other industry killing federal regs.  So they look to blame white America, the tea party, or conservatives.  Maybe they should look at brother Obama and his cohorts.  The President has failed this community.  He talks big but he has done nothing for the economy.  His environmental regulations and fight against energy has led to job losses.  Liberals fight to close poor schools and education reform.  Finally the pathway Obama has started for a flood of immigrants to become Obama Americans will take jobs away from our disadvantaged and poorest citizens. Rage needs to be directed towards those who prosper off promoting and pushing continuation of the hopeless plight of blacks living a hardscrabble existance.  These people offer no solution, only hate mongering.

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Yeah I was really hoping that people would take a second and examine the historical issues at play here. But people like this are lying to themselves in order to legitimize their position in society.  Its pretty sad when the vast majority of "facts" stated about the Obama admin are patently false on face.   I really wonder how people travel through life surrounding themselves with such ignorance.  I mean this isn't a subtle nuanced debate about political theory, this is stuff a 3rd grader can get with a line graph.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2014, 06:42:07 AM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ferguson-wasnt-black-rage-against-copsit-was-white-rage-against-progress/2014/08/29/3055e3f4-2d75-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html

On Aug. 17, police in Ferguson, Mo., wait to advance after using tear gas to disperse a crowd protesting the shooting death of Michael Brown. (Charlie Riedel/Associated Press)
By Carol Anderson August 29
Carol Anderson is an associate professor of African American studies and history at Emory University and a public voices fellow with the Op-Ed Project. She is the author of “Bourgeois Radicals: The NAACP and the Struggle for Colonial Liberation, 1941-1960.”
When we look back on what happened in Ferguson, Mo., during the summer of 2014, it will be easy to think of it as yet one more episode of black rage ignited by yet another police killing of an unarmed African American male. But that has it precisely backward. What we’ve actually seen is the latest outbreak of white rage. Sure, it is cloaked in the niceties of law and order, but it is rage nonetheless.

Protests and looting naturally capture attention. But the real rage smolders in meetings where officials redraw precincts to dilute African American voting strength or seek to slash the government payrolls that have long served as sources of black employment.


I stopped reading here because absurdity. The good news is people like this will inevitability be identified as the source of the problem.
So white rage doesn't exists and has never reacted to the expansion of rights to minority groups?
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2014, 08:15:15 AM »
Sorry bruh, I don't "white rage" or "black rage".

The topic of racial societal tides makes for good libtard coffee table discussion, I suppose, and I won't distract from that any further. You and MiR should enjoy your ignorant fantasy.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 08:29:38 AM »
Fake how do you counter the historical realities of race based riots, attacks, and strife which have plagued America since Reconstruction? 
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2014, 09:02:36 AM »
I guess I don't see what this piece adds to the national discussion.  It's a common trick--coin a term ("white rage") and use it in place of an instantly recognizable idea (racism). Yes, racism has existed and still exists, albeit it less egregious than in the past.  This is the worst kind of academia, that which cherry-picks historical events, presents little context and shapes it into a self-serving narrative.  History ought not progress along a line graph, although our desire for order often leads us to accept such tidy retellings. History ought to be a true and accurate accounting of what was once present.  The present unfolds in anything but an orderly manner.  The present, aside from being a complex amalgamation of disparate actors and motivations, always involves some measure of randomness.  Later generations strip away the parts they deem superfluous, dissect the body and rearrange the parts in a more easily recognizable manner.  Consequently, they rejoice--having constructed something upon which to rejoice.  All this to lead us to the overwhelming question...
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2014, 09:13:40 AM »
Fake how do you counter the historical realities of race based riots, attacks, and strife which have plagued America since Reconstruction?

Spracne's 3rd sentence above adequately addresses my criticism of the article.   I don't distinguish riots by race, I lump them all into a single category called opportunistic ass holes commit crimes to take advantage of sad situation.

The notion that this single incident that has run the judicial course represents a uniform act on the part of white people to oppress black people is utterly absurd and hyperbolic conjecture to the highest degree. In any and every context.



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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2014, 09:43:23 AM »
If I was a young black man I would be enraged by the economic inequity that plagues this demographic group.  High unemployment, low wage jobs, poor schools, and indusries that use to employee middle class blacks lost because of environmental and other industry killing federal regs.  So they look to blame white America, the tea party, or conservatives.  Maybe they should look at brother Obama and his cohorts.  The President has failed this community.  He talks big but he has done nothing for the economy.  His environmental regulations and fight against energy has led to job losses.  Liberals fight to close poor schools and education reform.  Finally the pathway Obama has started for a flood of immigrants to become Obama Americans will take jobs away from our disadvantaged and poorest citizens. Rage needs to be directed towards those who prosper off promoting and pushing continuation of the hopeless plight of blacks living a hardscrabble existance.  These people offer no solution, only hate mongering.

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Yeah I was really hoping that people would take a second and examine the historical issues at play here. But people like this are lying to themselves in order to legitimize their position in society.  Its pretty sad when the vast majority of "facts" stated about the Obama admin are patently false on face.   I really wonder how people travel through life surrounding themselves with such ignorance.  I mean this isn't a subtle nuanced debate about political theory, this is stuff a 3rd grader can get with a line graph.

I had a good laugh at the hypocrisy and dishonesty in this post.
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2014, 09:45:18 AM »
If I was a young black man I would be enraged by the economic inequity that plagues this demographic group.  High unemployment, low wage jobs, poor schools, and indusries that use to employee middle class blacks lost because of environmental and other industry killing federal regs.  So they look to blame white America, the tea party, or conservatives.  Maybe they should look at brother Obama and his cohorts.  The President has failed this community.  He talks big but he has done nothing for the economy.  His environmental regulations and fight against energy has led to job losses.  Liberals fight to close poor schools and education reform.  Finally the pathway Obama has started for a flood of immigrants to become Obama Americans will take jobs away from our disadvantaged and poorest citizens. Rage needs to be directed towards those who prosper off promoting and pushing continuation of the hopeless plight of blacks living a hardscrabble existance.  These people offer no solution, only hate mongering.

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Yeah I was really hoping that people would take a second and examine the historical issues at play here. But people like this are lying to themselves in order to legitimize their position in society.  Its pretty sad when the vast majority of "facts" stated about the Obama admin are patently false on face.   I really wonder how people travel through life surrounding themselves with such ignorance.  I mean this isn't a subtle nuanced debate about political theory, this is stuff a 3rd grader can get with a line graph.

I had a good laugh at the hypocrisy and dishonesty in this post.

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2014, 09:50:36 AM »
There was nothing to rebut. Your post read together with renos post was sufficient
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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2014, 10:36:06 AM »
I guess I don't see what this piece adds to the national discussion.  It's a common trick--coin a term ("white rage") and use it in place of an instantly recognizable idea (racism). Yes, racism has existed and still exists, albeit it less egregious than in the past.  This is the worst kind of academia, that which cherry-picks historical events, presents little context and shapes it into a self-serving narrative.  History ought not progress along a line graph, although our desire for order often leads us to accept such tidy retellings. History ought to be a true and accurate accounting of what was once present.  The present unfolds in anything but an orderly manner.  The present, aside from being a complex amalgamation of disparate actors and motivations, always involves some measure of randomness.  Later generations strip away the parts they deem superfluous, dissect the body and rearrange the parts in a more easily recognizable manner.  Consequently, they rejoice--having constructed something upon which to rejoice.  All this to lead us to the overwhelming question...

The biggest issues is that you must recognize that not all racism is the same or on equal footing.  By labeling it differently its a way of legitimizing those differences against people like Fake who gloss over the important distinctions.  Now its nice to say that all racism is racism, and drop the reverse racism nonsense, but in this type of discussion there is room, necessary room, for the important distinctions in this conversation.
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2014, 12:42:32 PM »
I read this.... I thought it was an interesting perspective and very much in line with how I think about this issue... This may never be fixed... more likely it won't.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/11/barack-obama-ferguson-and-the-evidence-of-things-unsaid/383212/?single_page=true
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2014, 04:12:48 PM »
Is this the thread where people try to find the most outrageous examples of Horseshit opinion?
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2014, 06:42:15 PM »
Is this the thread where people try to find the most outrageous examples of Horseshit opinion?

Yes. Clearly the enactment and enforcement of jaywalking laws was a white response to freed man laws. It had nothing to do with cars.
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2014, 08:20:48 PM »
Sorry bruh, I don't "white rage" or "black rage".

The topic of racial societal tides makes for good libtard coffee table discussion, I suppose, and I won't distract from that any further. You and MiR should enjoy your ignorant fantasy.

:dunno: WTF, I didn't post an opinion on this topic. Why is it my "ignorant fantasy?" Is it because in your head I'm reading this with a watermelon eating grin muttering "yessir" repeatedly to myself?

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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2014, 08:37:20 PM »
Sorry bruh, I don't "white rage" or "black rage".

The topic of racial societal tides makes for good libtard coffee table discussion, I suppose, and I won't distract from that any further. You and MiR should enjoy your ignorant fantasy.

:dunno: WTF, I didn't post an opinion on this topic. Why is it my "ignorant fantasy?" Is it because in your head I'm reading this with a watermelon eating grin muttering "yessir" repeatedly to myself?

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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2014, 08:46:10 PM »
Sorry bruh, I don't "white rage" or "black rage".

The topic of racial societal tides makes for good libtard coffee table discussion, I suppose, and I won't distract from that any further. You and MiR should enjoy your ignorant fantasy.

:dunno: WTF, I didn't post an opinion on this topic. Why is it my "ignorant fantasy?" Is it because in your head I'm reading this with a watermelon eating grin muttering "yessir" repeatedly to myself?

I'm sure Sambo is a critical component to your "white rage" fantasy.

Not that it matters to you but I didn't like the framing of the article at all and couldn't get passed it. White rage is a ridiculous concept. Continue your fantasy as all blacks being unevolved apes incapable of independent thought though. Da white man told me to like it so I like it.

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Re: Ferguson: Black rage or white rage against progress (save the TLDNR)
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2014, 08:53:10 PM »
Sorry bruh, I don't "white rage" or "black rage".

The topic of racial societal tides makes for good libtard coffee table discussion, I suppose, and I won't distract from that any further. You and MiR should enjoy your ignorant fantasy.

:dunno: WTF, I didn't post an opinion on this topic. Why is it my "ignorant fantasy?" Is it because in your head I'm reading this with a watermelon eating grin muttering "yessir" repeatedly to myself?

I'm sure Sambo is a critical component to your "white rage" fantasy.

Not that it matters to you but I didn't like the framing of the article at all and couldn't get passed it. White rage is a ridiculous concept. Continue your fantasy as all blacks being unevolved apes incapable of independent thought though. Da white man told me to like it so I like it.

You are a pathetic human being.
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Re: Ferguson: Black rage or white rage against progress (save the TLDNR)
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2015, 08:40:17 PM »
I hate to see this flaring up again.  I think the black community does have legitimate beefs about the way law enforcement treat them.   Why is this used as an impetuous to loot and pillage?  If a hostile mob tried to block Yoder road I might be tempted to gun my car and make em jump.

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