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It is pretty disappointing that the majority of Americans are awful people.
So the #prolapse thing was about force feeding people on hunger strike. I thought that ramming a tube up someone's ass to torture was a little too perverted, even for the cia.The second dumbest thing about all of this is the great lengths the cia went to redefine the word torture. Guess what, we've been torturing our enemies since day one and will continue to do it until they're all dead.The first dumbest thing is leftists being okay with killing someone by hell fire missile, but not okay with water boarding because Obama not cheney.
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 16, 2014, 09:07:34 AMI think the majority of people still have the ability to put themselves in a theoretical position in which they themselves would 'torture' another person to save someone they care about. I think a majority of people would also murder a unicorn to save someone they care about.
I think the majority of people still have the ability to put themselves in a theoretical position in which they themselves would 'torture' another person to save someone they care about.
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 16, 2014, 09:09:35 AMSo the #prolapse thing was about force feeding people on hunger strike. I thought that ramming a tube up someone's ass to torture was a little too perverted, even for the cia.The second dumbest thing about all of this is the great lengths the cia went to redefine the word torture. Guess what, we've been torturing our enemies since day one and will continue to do it until they're all dead.The first dumbest thing is leftists being okay with killing someone by hell fire missile, but not okay with water boarding because Obama not cheney.I am interested to learn how force feeding someone makes their bad person fall out of itself. I mean surely they didn't try force feeding them through their bad person right?
Quote from: michigancat on December 16, 2014, 09:10:27 AMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 16, 2014, 09:07:34 AMI think the majority of people still have the ability to put themselves in a theoretical position in which they themselves would 'torture' another person to save someone they care about. I think a majority of people would also murder a unicorn to save someone they care about.I definitely would.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 16, 2014, 11:44:27 AMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 16, 2014, 09:07:34 AMI think the majority of people still have the ability to put themselves in a theoretical position in which they themselves would 'torture' another person to save someone they care about.That seems like a terrible way to determine which government policy to promote.This was in reference to the majority of Americans supporting enhanced interrogation and the hypocrisy of some. They would rush use the same techniques to save someone they personally care for, but vilify those that use it to save people they don't even know.
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 16, 2014, 09:07:34 AMI think the majority of people still have the ability to put themselves in a theoretical position in which they themselves would 'torture' another person to save someone they care about.That seems like a terrible way to determine which government policy to promote.
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 16, 2014, 11:53:13 AMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 16, 2014, 11:44:27 AMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 16, 2014, 09:07:34 AMI think the majority of people still have the ability to put themselves in a theoretical position in which they themselves would 'torture' another person to save someone they care about.That seems like a terrible way to determine which government policy to promote.This was in reference to the majority of Americans supporting enhanced interrogation and the hypocrisy of some. They would rush use the same techniques to save someone they personally care for, but vilify those that use it to save people they don't even know.That's not hypocritical at all.
If somebody I loved associated themselves with terrorists, I wouldn't want them water boarded, either.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 16, 2014, 08:58:12 AMIt is pretty disappointing that the majority of Americans are awful people.The majority of humans are awful people.
Mr. Bashmilah has told them of being tortured in Jordan before he was handed over to the C.I.A., which at times kept him shackled alone in freezing-cold cells in Afghanistan, subjected to loud music 24 hours a day. He attempted suicide at least three times, once by saving pills and swallowing them all at once; once by slashing his wrists; and once by trying to hang himself. Another time he cut himself and used his own blood to write “this is unjust” on the wall.
So, can someone document the reform that has taken place since these torture cases?Any significant evidence that the current administration has reigned in the CIA (or other agencies)?
using 9/11 as an excuse to torture brown people 13 years later is pretty LOL
Watched the video, eff that guy. He's just out for revenge. He could have took a stand against torture and chose not to.
Well shoot, the huge firestorm the media has attempted to create over the latest "torture" report just doesn't seem to be materializing.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/12/15/that-big-cia-torture-report-americans-just-shrugged/QuoteA new poll from the Pew Research Center is the first to gauge reactions to last week's big CIA report on "enhanced interrogation techniques" -- what agency critics call torture. And the reaction is pretty muted. The poll shows people says 51-29 percent than the CIA's methods were justified and 56-28 percent that the information gleaned helped prevent terror attacks.The word "torture," it should be noted, isn't mentioned in the poll, but it has been associated with much of the coverage of the issue. And the numbers align nicely with polls on the use of torture, which shows that relatively few Americans are concerned about it -- especially when you bring the prospect of combating terrorism into the mix. That lack of real concern about what the CIA was doing is also reflected in the amount of interest in the story. While newspapers and broadcast news across the country devoted a huge amount of coverage to the Senate intelligence committee report last week, just 23 percent of Americans say they are following the story "very closely," while 50 percent are following it "not too closely" or "not at all." That ranks it behind the Ferguson/Eric Garner protests and stories about the U.S. economy. And it's not just that people who aren't concerned about torture aren't tuning in. Those who have followed the story the most, in fact, approve of the program 59-34 percent. Even Democrats are pretty split on the justification for the program. While 37 percent say it was justified, 46 percent say it wasn't. Liberal Democrats disapprove 65-25 percent, but moderate and conservative Democrats approve 48-32 percent. Given the images that were conjured by the report -- "rectal feeding," etc. -- that's not much of a reaction. Indeed, this is not the kind of public outcry that demands big changes to how the CIA conducts business. And Democrats who pushed for the release of the report in hopes of changing how the CIA does business have to be frustrated.
A new poll from the Pew Research Center is the first to gauge reactions to last week's big CIA report on "enhanced interrogation techniques" -- what agency critics call torture. And the reaction is pretty muted. The poll shows people says 51-29 percent than the CIA's methods were justified and 56-28 percent that the information gleaned helped prevent terror attacks.The word "torture," it should be noted, isn't mentioned in the poll, but it has been associated with much of the coverage of the issue. And the numbers align nicely with polls on the use of torture, which shows that relatively few Americans are concerned about it -- especially when you bring the prospect of combating terrorism into the mix. That lack of real concern about what the CIA was doing is also reflected in the amount of interest in the story. While newspapers and broadcast news across the country devoted a huge amount of coverage to the Senate intelligence committee report last week, just 23 percent of Americans say they are following the story "very closely," while 50 percent are following it "not too closely" or "not at all." That ranks it behind the Ferguson/Eric Garner protests and stories about the U.S. economy. And it's not just that people who aren't concerned about torture aren't tuning in. Those who have followed the story the most, in fact, approve of the program 59-34 percent. Even Democrats are pretty split on the justification for the program. While 37 percent say it was justified, 46 percent say it wasn't. Liberal Democrats disapprove 65-25 percent, but moderate and conservative Democrats approve 48-32 percent. Given the images that were conjured by the report -- "rectal feeding," etc. -- that's not much of a reaction. Indeed, this is not the kind of public outcry that demands big changes to how the CIA conducts business. And Democrats who pushed for the release of the report in hopes of changing how the CIA does business have to be frustrated.
Quote from: Mr Bread on December 16, 2014, 12:08:52 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 16, 2014, 08:58:12 AMIt is pretty disappointing that the majority of Americans are awful people.The majority of humans are awful people. Naw
Quote from: Benja on December 22, 2014, 02:36:45 PMQuote from: Mr Bread on December 16, 2014, 12:08:52 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 16, 2014, 08:58:12 AMIt is pretty disappointing that the majority of Americans are awful people.The majority of humans are awful people. NawOf course they are. They just lie to themselves and others about it.
Quote from: Mr Bread on December 22, 2014, 04:37:14 PMQuote from: Benja on December 22, 2014, 02:36:45 PMQuote from: Mr Bread on December 16, 2014, 12:08:52 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 16, 2014, 08:58:12 AMIt is pretty disappointing that the majority of Americans are awful people.The majority of humans are awful people. NawOf course they are. They just lie to themselves and others about it. Most people are pretty good.
