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We're far too busy harassing, impoverishing, abusing and murdering our own citizens in the neo-totalitarian Obama police state for your stupid crusade to imprison Dick Cheney for torturing terrorists.
redistribution of wealth that is "necessary" is still redistribution of wealth.But yeah, torturing folks.
Quote from: Headinjun on December 10, 2014, 10:09:22 PMDo you have any remorse that innocent people were subjected to harsh punishment at the hands of the United States? Punishment that provided next to nothing?No, because I don't believe that has happened (well, I guess I'll limit this to post 9/11 - never say never).I also don't conflate these forms of interrogation with "punishment" - they were used to get people talking.I also don't believe the information obtained was "next to nothing." Numerous individuals with the CIA attest that valuable information was obtained through the program, sometimes corroborative, sometimes of first impression. I'm inclined to believe these men as opposed to a cherry-picked political hackjob written exclusively by Dem staffers - without even interviewing anyone (it was based solely on review of partially declassified documents) - in the waning days of Sen. Feinstein's leadership of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Do you have any remorse that innocent people were subjected to harsh punishment at the hands of the United States? Punishment that provided next to nothing?
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 10, 2014, 10:31:15 PMQuote from: Headinjun on December 10, 2014, 10:09:22 PMDo you have any remorse that innocent people were subjected to harsh punishment at the hands of the United States? Punishment that provided next to nothing?No, because I don't believe that has happened (well, I guess I'll limit this to post 9/11 - never say never).I also don't conflate these forms of interrogation with "punishment" - they were used to get people talking.I also don't believe the information obtained was "next to nothing." Numerous individuals with the CIA attest that valuable information was obtained through the program, sometimes corroborative, sometimes of first impression. I'm inclined to believe these men as opposed to a cherry-picked political hackjob written exclusively by Dem staffers - without even interviewing anyone (it was based solely on review of partially declassified documents) - in the waning days of Sen. Feinstein's leadership of the Senate Intelligence Committee.Do you have a response to the evidence I posted? The CIA's own internal documents say that 26 of the 119 prisoners were innocent. I documented a guy that their own internal documents identified as a case of mistaken identity as tortured to death. You chose not to respond and now are denying his existence.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning. They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.
Quote from: Kat Kid on December 10, 2014, 10:45:40 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 10, 2014, 10:31:15 PMQuote from: Headinjun on December 10, 2014, 10:09:22 PMDo you have any remorse that innocent people were subjected to harsh punishment at the hands of the United States? Punishment that provided next to nothing?No, because I don't believe that has happened (well, I guess I'll limit this to post 9/11 - never say never).I also don't conflate these forms of interrogation with "punishment" - they were used to get people talking.I also don't believe the information obtained was "next to nothing." Numerous individuals with the CIA attest that valuable information was obtained through the program, sometimes corroborative, sometimes of first impression. I'm inclined to believe these men as opposed to a cherry-picked political hackjob written exclusively by Dem staffers - without even interviewing anyone (it was based solely on review of partially declassified documents) - in the waning days of Sen. Feinstein's leadership of the Senate Intelligence Committee.Do you have a response to the evidence I posted? The CIA's own internal documents say that 26 of the 119 prisoners were innocent. I documented a guy that their own internal documents identified as a case of mistaken identity as tortured to death. You chose not to respond and now are denying his existence.What kind of "torture" did these "innocent" people receive?
"Froze" to "death"
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 22, 2014, 03:55:57 PMWe're far too busy harassing, impoverishing, abusing and murdering our own citizens in the neo-totalitarian Obama police state for your stupid crusade to imprison Dick Cheney for torturing terrorists.What a dumb filled post. Keep on believing that there is such a difference in party...sigh. One in the same...but it keeps the division alive and well.
Cool to see the progressotards abandon their high horse and begin denigrating their own thread the moment their indefensible hypocrisy and intellectually dishonest position is pointed out.
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 11, 2014, 08:44:44 AMCool to see the progressotards abandon their high horse and begin denigrating their own thread the moment their indefensible hypocrisy and intellectually dishonest position is pointed out.Who abandoned their high horse? I call still see tons of morons below me trying to justify anally raping people "to get them to talk" from up here.
You simply can't take incongruent moral positions regarding the intentional harm done to human beings, without exposing yourself as a partisan clown attempting to fit a bullshit dialogue.
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 11, 2014, 09:59:53 AMYou simply can't take incongruent moral positions regarding the intentional harm done to human beings, without exposing yourself as a partisan clown attempting to fit a bullshit dialogue.I don't think you know what incongruent means
For all the publicity the Bush administration gave Mr. Padilla, the committee revealed that the government never took his dirty bomb plot seriously. It was based on a satirical Internet article titled “How to Make an H-Bomb,” and the plot involved swinging a bucket full of uranium over one’s head for 45 minutes. One internal C.I.A. email declared that such a plot would most likely kill Mr. Padilla but “would definitely not result in a nuclear explosive device.” Another called Mr. Padilla “a petty criminal” and described the dirty bomb plot as “lore.”
Quote from: CIA internal documentsFor all the publicity the Bush administration gave Mr. Padilla, the committee revealed that the government never took his dirty bomb plot seriously. It was based on a satirical Internet article titled “How to Make an H-Bomb,” and the plot involved swinging a bucket full of uranium over one’s head for 45 minutes. One internal C.I.A. email declared that such a plot would most likely kill Mr. Padilla but “would definitely not result in a nuclear explosive device.” Another called Mr. Padilla “a petty criminal” and described the dirty bomb plot as “lore.”
in the end, EMAW will always win.
I'm working with someone on a project who is retired from academia and lets just say the real business world has him totally stunned and in awe.I know return you to this tawdry attempt by prog-libs to extricate themselves from their complicity.
