“The question would be how much you could read before they grabbed you"

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Why does our government's moral compass begin and end with torture of non-citizen "enemy combatants"?

In times of war, do morals remain static, or should they change to protect the society establishing them?

If corporations can't have religious values, how can a government have morals?

It's far to easy to quip (for partisan reasons) that you are black and white opposed to these things while remaining silent concerning other immorality.

None of those things.  The rule of law should stand.  The Constitution should stand.  The Republic should stand.

Answer the questions you rough ridin' hypocrite.

What constitutional rights do nonresident aliens on foreign soil possess?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

The shear timing of all of this is lolz

[wetwillie]

It's 2014 surely we can shoot them full of something and they will sing like a bird. 

[hjfklmor]

It's 2014 surely we can shoot them full of something and they will sing like a bird.

Not enhanced enough

[sonofdaxjones]

Sad:

Diane and company knew all about it, they spent $40 million to CYA themselves. 

Black sites continue to exist today.   $40 million wasted.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

When you're getting your brains beat in at the polls and nobody likes you, fire up the blame bush train. We've got a guy testifying about the lies and deceit that went into passing Obamacare (is lying a moral issue?) which has caused hundreds of millions of dollars of waste and redistribution of wealth (surely taking from one person to give to another could be characterized as immoral), and all of the sudden this pops up.

[chuckjames]

When you're getting your brains beat in at the polls and nobody likes you, fire up the blame bush train. We've got a guy testifying about the lies and deceit that went into passing Obamacare (is lying a moral issue?) which has caused hundreds of millions of dollars of waste and redistribution of wealth (surely taking from one person to give to another could be characterized as immoral), and all of the sudden this pops up.

This part made me laugh. Comparing taxes to torture.

[michigancat]

When you're getting your brains beat in at the polls and nobody likes you, fire up the blame bush train. We've got a guy testifying about the lies and deceit that went into passing Obamacare (is lying a moral issue?) which has caused hundreds of millions of dollars of waste and redistribution of wealth (surely taking from one person to give to another could be characterized as immoral), and all of the sudden this pops up.

Shutting down the CIA would probably eliminate even more waste! I can get on board with this idea, FSD.

[sonofdaxjones]

It's a shame for you cRustyMichMichicat that this administration loves them some CIA, and has pretty much thrown open the gates for them since they took office.

It's just not talked about, because after all, Obama is a Democrat.

Now the CIA people feel $hit upon because the were doing exactly what the previous and the current administration wanted to them to do.

Next stop, trying to find some more bad guys to help us create more chaos in Syria.   But hey, we tortured some people 10 years ago.

What a side show from Diane and company.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

When you're getting your brains beat in at the polls and nobody likes you, fire up the blame bush train. We've got a guy testifying about the lies and deceit that went into passing Obamacare (is lying a moral issue?) which has caused hundreds of millions of dollars of waste and redistribution of wealth (surely taking from one person to give to another could be characterized as immoral), and all of the sudden this pops up.

This part made me laugh. Comparing taxes to torture.

You aren't even on the same planet as I am.

We're talking about morality, not which is "more immoral" to the extent there are degrees of immorality. Taxes to pay for common goods and services like roads, military, national forests, etc. are much different from taxes that do nothing more than take money from one group of people and give it to another. That could easily be characterized as immoral or "stealing".

You're posting makes me believe you are to stupid to be involved in this dialogue. But I'll hold off on making that conclusion for now.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

When you're getting your brains beat in at the polls and nobody likes you, fire up the blame bush train. We've got a guy testifying about the lies and deceit that went into passing Obamacare (is lying a moral issue?) which has caused hundreds of millions of dollars of waste and redistribution of wealth (surely taking from one person to give to another could be characterized as immoral), and all of the sudden this pops up.

Shutting down the CIA would probably eliminate even more waste! I can get on board with this idea, FSD.

I think we just need to pick one. Do we really need a cia, a military, a homeland security, a nsa, an fbi, etc.  ?

We also need to stop vesting so much unchecked order in the executive branch. But you like having unelected people make laws (immoral under our agreed upon form of govt.?), so I doubt I can get you that far.

[Rage Against the McKee]

It's a shame for you cRustyMichMichicat that this administration loves them some CIA, and has pretty much thrown open the gates for them since they took office.

It's just not talked about, because after all, Obama is a Democrat.

Now the CIA people feel $hit upon because the were doing exactly what the previous and the current administration wanted to them to do.

Next stop, trying to find some more bad guys to help us create more chaos in Syria.   But hey, we tortured some people 10 years ago.

What a side show from Diane and company.

This is why I voted for Ron Paul in the primary.

[sonofdaxjones]

Over 20 U.S. Airstrikes inside Syria in the last 2 months, against an organization that we pretty much helped create.  Meanwhile the Pres is looking at the possibility of the CIA/JSOC et. al.  setting up more "training" camps for "moderate" rebels to help overthrow Assad in what is already a massive humanitarian crisis and will ultimately be one of the biggest humanitarian crisis in decades.

But, the U.S. tortured some guys 10 years.

[michigancat]

I voted for the Green Party Candidate because I knew both republicans and democrats support this kind of bullshit.

[CNS]

The CIA shouldnt be gotten rid of, but should be seriously leashed in.  I recommend we put Edward Snowden in charge.

[Mr Bread]

I'm still amazed that the human bad person can fall out of itself.  #prolapsed

[Fedor]

I'm still amazed that the human bad person can fall out of itself.  #prolapsed

Same thing with a vagina, cow vaginas are one of the worst.  Just falling out err'where.

[chuckjames]

When you're getting your brains beat in at the polls and nobody likes you, fire up the blame bush train. We've got a guy testifying about the lies and deceit that went into passing Obamacare (is lying a moral issue?) which has caused hundreds of millions of dollars of waste and redistribution of wealth (surely taking from one person to give to another could be characterized as immoral), and all of the sudden this pops up.

This part made me laugh. Comparing taxes to torture.

You aren't even on the same planet as I am.

We're talking about morality, not which is "more immoral" to the extent there are degrees of immorality. Taxes to pay for common goods and services like roads, military, national forests, etc. are much different from taxes that do nothing more than take money from one group of people and give it to another. That could easily be characterized as immoral or "stealing".

You're posting makes me believe you are to stupid to be involved in this dialogue. But I'll hold off on making that conclusion for now.

I just think we as a society, made a decision at some point to redistribute some wealth for the betterment of society. If you really see that as immoral then I guess that sucks for you. That redistribution was created by the rule of law, and has been upheld in courts. The CIA torture thing was against the rule of law. If you cant tell the difference I don't know what to tell you.

[michigancat]

roads and militaries are redistribution of wealth, FWIW.

But yeah, the bit about the "interrogator" snapping his finger and the prisoner getting on the torture table? Holy crap. Also the bad person falling out thing. eff these guys. #BurnItDown

[chuckjames]

roads and militaries are redistribution of wealth, FWIW.

But yeah, the bit about the "interrogator" snapping his finger and the prisoner getting on the torture table? Holy crap. Also the bad person falling out thing. eff these guys. #BurnItDown

Really any tax based on income is a redistribution of wealth, but whatevs Im just a stupid.

[star seed 7]

Kinda surprised that bread isn't familiar with the "pink sock"

[bubbles4ksu]

There is a pic of a power lifter whose bad person fell out while he was squatting. Very popular pic when I was in high school.

[Tobias]

guys.

[CNS]

This is what they want.  The more pink sock that is distracting you, the more torture they can do without you demanding it to stop.

[star seed 7]

This thread is also why I love the language filter

"prolapsed bad person "