Author Topic: Twitter, Republicans, Super PACs are all above the law (Read 2612 times)

CNS · « **on:** November 17, 2014, 09:38:34 AM »

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/17/politics/twitter-republicans-outside-groups/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

So, Karl Rove's PAC and a couple others used anonymous twitter accts to post internal polling data in code for the 'pub candidates to use for focusing campaign money as the election was coming close. The coordination of the two is illegal.

I bet absolutely nothing is done other than some laughs and high fives.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2014, 10:51:31 AM »

Pretty bad, the bigger concern is the untracked donation money from foreign sources made via the Internet.

CNS · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2014, 10:53:47 AM »

they are both big, illegal, issues. I mean, hit ppl with what you can, even if it isn't everything.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2014, 11:31:03 AM »

When you say "illegal" - are you talking about doing stuff that's actually wrong, like the Clintons/Obama accepting millions in donations from foreigners, or are you just talking violating our byzantine restrictions against American citizens engaging in freedom of speech?

CNS · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2014, 11:33:06 AM »

I am talking about the substance of the original post that is a provable violation.

I am up for any politician and any group associated with breaking such laws being prosecuted.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2014, 11:35:34 AM »

Right, I'm just wondering if you can explain the policy reason for campaign finance laws the prevent campaigns from coordinating with American citizens who want to spend their money on politics?

CNS · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2014, 11:37:21 AM »

Deflect, deflect, deflect.....

star seed 7 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 17, 2014, 11:38:53 AM »

This sounds made up, dax has assured me that only liberals do this sort of thing

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #8 on:** November 17, 2014, 11:42:00 AM »

Quote from: CNS on November 17, 2014, 11:37:21 AM

Deflect, deflect, deflect.....

I'm not deflecting anything. Deflecting would be saying "yeah, well the other side does it, too (and I'm sure they do, but that's not my point)." Feel free to bitch about this - I'll go ahead and concede that they broke the law because I could care less. I believe in the First Amendment right to freedom of speech, so I'm not going to get my panties in a wad when someone violates laws that trample on the Constitution. Do you realize that many of our Founding Fathers wrote some of their most influential work anonymously?

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2014, 11:44:12 AM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on November 17, 2014, 11:38:53 AM

This sounds made up, dax has assured me that only liberals do this sort of thing

I've never said any such thing.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #10 on:** November 17, 2014, 11:46:27 AM »

Freedom of Speech marginal election wrong doing > Massive Campaign Contribution illegalties

Can't argue with that logic.

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #11 on:** November 17, 2014, 12:23:54 PM »

Pretty weak reporting there. Nothing of substance.

CNS · « **Reply #12 on:** November 17, 2014, 12:25:57 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on November 17, 2014, 11:46:27 AM

Freedom of Speech marginal election wrong doing > Massive Campaign Contribution illegalties

Can't argue with that logic.

Wut

star seed 7 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 17, 2014, 12:26:23 PM »

This is effectively election rigging, but hey, it's ok because the republicans did it!

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #14 on:** November 17, 2014, 12:37:43 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on November 17, 2014, 12:26:23 PM

This is effectively election rigging, but hey, it's ok because the republicans did it!

Uh-huh

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #15 on:** November 17, 2014, 12:46:12 PM »

So publicly tweeting out polling data is illegal?

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #16 on:** November 17, 2014, 01:07:20 PM »

Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 17, 2014, 12:46:12 PM

So publicly tweeting out polling data is illegal?

I think the part where they encoded the data so that it wasn't really made available to the public is illegal, but I'm not really sure.

steve dave · « **Reply #17 on:** November 17, 2014, 02:00:31 PM »

some of you aren't taking this very well

CNS · « **Reply #18 on:** November 17, 2014, 02:09:17 PM »

At least own it and proceed with the laughing and high-fiving.

michigancat · « **Reply #19 on:** November 17, 2014, 02:18:02 PM »

I admire the cunning.

steve dave · « **Reply #20 on:** November 17, 2014, 02:29:59 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on November 17, 2014, 02:18:02 PM

I admire the cunning.

yep

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #21 on:** November 17, 2014, 02:35:57 PM »

And I tried to find a Constitution one, but couldn't.

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #22 on:** November 17, 2014, 04:17:53 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2014, 01:07:20 PM

Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 17, 2014, 12:46:12 PM
So publicly tweeting out polling data is illegal?

I think the part where they encoded the data so that it wasn't really made available to the public is illegal, but I'm not really sure.

Maybe it isn't really encoded to someone familiar with polling data?

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #23 on:** November 17, 2014, 04:30:14 PM »

DNR article but get the gist. Does this setup a battle Royale between Rove and the new AG, because that could be

Pretty ingenious cheat, although I don't understand who was damaged. What kind of fine or cmp are we talking about?

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #24 on:** November 17, 2014, 04:35:02 PM »

I'm genuinely surprised at how quickly the pubs caught up and passed the dems with respect to twitter. Obama was tweeting millions in 08 and most pubs were still texting in t9 word.