Author Topic: Has Waters Improved? (Read 11812 times)

pvegs · « **on:** September 29, 2014, 03:17:56 PM »

If so, how? In what aspects? Honest question for any HFBIQ people out there. To me, he looks like the exact same player as last year. The stats seem to bear that out.

That_Guy · « **Reply #1 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:21:14 PM »

I agree with the above statement. There hasn't been really any noticeable difference in his play from last year to this year, so far.

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #2 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:21:35 PM »

He hasn't been the player we saw against Michigan yet.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:22:06 PM »

He's more confident, more patient with his runs, and fairly more accurate.

BRULL · « **Reply #4 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:23:56 PM »

Welp, I will say he has gotten marginally better at throwing it away. Marginally.

steve dave · « **Reply #5 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:24:25 PM »

fairly more accurate

ksupamplemousse · « **Reply #6 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:26:34 PM »

Quote from: pvegs on September 29, 2014, 03:17:56 PM

If so, how? In what aspects? Honest question for any HFBIQ people out there. To me, he looks like the exact same player as last year. The stats seem to bear that out.

I think he's much more comfortable in the pocket (sometimes he's a little too comfortable), and he looks much better running the football on broken plays. His short passes are more accurate as well. I think the reason we haven't seen a big jump in production can be attributed partly to the loss of TT, a gimpy Lockett, and a shitty running game. Having said that, he should definitely be playing better so far despite those factors.

#LIFE · « **Reply #7 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:30:06 PM »

Shocking comments from Iowacat08

MadCat · « **Reply #8 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:31:58 PM »

His armhair is longer, if that's what you're asking.

pvegs · « **Reply #9 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:32:07 PM »

Okay, I can buy the improved running thing. He's certainly been asked to run MORE. I honestly don't see any difference in terms of his accuracy.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #10 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:32:25 PM »

He is calling more plays on his own at the line of scrimmage and managing the clock a lot better. K-State is throwing about 5% more of the time, but we lead the league in TOP which is helping our defense. The Cats are averaging slightly less YPP, but more PPP than last year's team, but more importantly turning it over at a much lower rate.

Sandstone Outcropping · « **Reply #11 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:33:55 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on September 29, 2014, 03:32:25 PM

He is calling more plays on his own at the line of scrimmage and managing the clock a lot better. K-State is throwing about 5% more of the time, but we lead the league in TOP which is helping our defense. The Cats are averaging slightly less YPP, but more PPP than last year's team, but more importantly turning it over at a much lower rate.

The clock management has been just

. Don't think this has been talked about enough.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:35:32 PM »

Quote from: #LIFE on September 29, 2014, 03:30:06 PM

Shocking comments from Iowacat08

Not really. I'm just not a dumbass.

KCFDcat · « **Reply #13 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:42:37 PM »

How many turnovers have we created? 2 not including blocked punts?

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #14 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:43:42 PM »

Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.

The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep · « **Reply #15 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:45:32 PM »

yes, i believe hes making better decisions and is more accurate.

The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep · « **Reply #16 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:48:10 PM »

Quote from: KCFDcat on September 29, 2014, 03:42:37 PM

How many turnovers have we created? 2 not including blocked punts?

3. 1 in each of our first 3 games.

Shooter Jones · « **Reply #17 on:** September 29, 2014, 03:52:32 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on September 29, 2014, 03:43:42 PM

Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.

pvegs · « **Reply #18 on:** September 29, 2014, 04:02:25 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on September 29, 2014, 03:32:25 PM

He is calling more plays on his own at the line of scrimmage and managing the clock a lot better. K-State is throwing about 5% more of the time, but we lead the league in TOP which is helping our defense. The Cats are averaging slightly less YPP, but more PPP than last year's team, but more importantly turning it over at a much lower rate.

What are the stats on turnovers, _Fan? I'm just curious.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 29, 2014, 04:09:38 PM »

I don't remember him running as well as he did in Ames at any point in 2013

star seed 7 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 29, 2014, 04:16:46 PM »

Only like 1 or 2 h3o's I think

BIG APPLE CAT · « **Reply #21 on:** September 29, 2014, 04:17:40 PM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on September 29, 2014, 04:09:38 PM

I don't remember him running as well as he did in Ames at any point in 2013

When you're sharing snaps with #LIFE you're probably going to look pretty slow. I bet all of Swagwood's assistant coaches look much more attractive when he isn't standing right beside them.

hatingfrancisco · « **Reply #22 on:** September 29, 2014, 04:28:10 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on September 29, 2014, 03:32:25 PM

He is calling more plays on his own at the line of scrimmage and managing the clock a lot better. K-State is throwing about 5% more of the time, but we lead the league in TOP which is helping our defense. The Cats are averaging slightly less YPP, but more PPP than last year's team, but more importantly turning it over at a much lower rate.

No offense to the posts that followed this one. But any response other than "Welp" and a

are not needed.

pissclams · « **Reply #23 on:** September 29, 2014, 04:31:49 PM »

i like waters. he's getting better every day.

Muldoon · « **Reply #24 on:** September 29, 2014, 04:43:40 PM »

Seems to be less fainting goat than last year.