Snyder had a way better resume than Prince when hired by KSU, but I'd certainly hate for that to be the test... 
That's just not accurate at all. The only difference in their resumes is that Prince didn't coach swimming and Snyder was a coordinator longer.
you don't honestly believe this do you? i mean, iowa won two big 10 championships with snyder as an offense coordinator.
Yes, I believe that most coordinators who get hired as head coaches don't generally get that chance after 9 years at one school. This isn't a terribly controversial stance 
I didn't say anything about the legacy of Snyder's time at Iowa.
If you want to have a conversation about what you posted we can do that too. If you want to give Snyder credit for Iowa's conference titles, that's fine with me. I will say that would be moving the goal posts on how we view coordinators though, I don't seem to remember too many Dana Dimel appreciation threads nor too many BCS schools offering him a head coaching position.
i mean i suppose we could also talk about the spicy italian sandwich that i just had as well, but i seem to think that we were specifically talking about LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder and ron princes resumes before they were hired to be the head coach at kstate and the fact that you think the only difference was that snyder was once a swim coach and was a coordinator longer.
it struck me odd that someone would say that so i asked if you were being serious. sounds like you were. i'm pretty sure if you put those resumes w/ no names attached and showed them to one hundred random people, one hundred would say that snyders was better. one was an offensive coordiantor for ten years at a big10 school that hadn't had a winning season in twenty years before he got there and then during his time there had a heisman trophy runner up quarterback, won the conference twice, spent half a year ranked #1 in the country and went to a bowl game nine years straight. the other was an o-line coach at james madison, cornell and then then an offensive coordinator for two years at a .500ish ACC school.
I don't think I ever attempted to minimize what Snyder did at Iowa, everything you said is correct, I feel like we're having two different conversations. I will say though that it is obvious that athletic directors in the 1980's didn't interpret Snyder's and Iowa's accomplishments the way that you do. I'm mean he was there for a decade and ended up leaving as the controversial like 5th choice at the worst job in America. That alone leads me to believe that at least in the eyes of athletic directors at the time of their hire Prince was seen at the very least in the same light off Snyder at the time of his hire. I didn't know who the hell Prince was before that off season but K-State wasn't the only job he was at least loosely tied to. Clearly Prince had a better agent and boss.
come on lol, how can this conversation be misconstrued?
point a: snyder's resume was better than prince's at the time of their hirings
you said: That's just not accurate at all. The only difference in their resumes is that Prince didn't coach swimming and Snyder was a coordinator longer.
then followed it up with: If you want to give Snyder credit for Iowa's conference titles, that's fine with me. I will say that would be moving the goal posts on how we view coordinators though
and: I don't think I ever attempted to minimize what Snyder did at Iowa
i mean, really?
Are Prince and Snyder's coordinator resumes really the hill you want to die on MIR?
A bit dramatic for an offseason conversation on a message board with hundreds of thousands of posts, no? That's such a stupid trick that people do on message boards, that has been done about half a dozen times in this thread alone. We're having a conversation here, relevance of such conversation has 0 significance. You don't seriously think this is a conversation about the merits of the two coaches do you?
As for your point clams. I very well may have misinterpreted what GOSP meant but my rebuttal was not about what LHC Bill Snyder accomplished at Iowa, it was what his job history was. When he posted that, I thought of this:
Coaching career (HC unless noted)
Gallatin HS (MO) (assistant)
Indio HS (CA) (assistant)
USC (GA)
Indio HS (CA)
Santa Ana Foothill HS (CA)
Austin (OC)
North Texas (assistant)
Iowa (OC)
Kansas State
Coaching career (HC unless noted)
Dodge City CC (volunteer)
Alabama A&M (OL)
South Carolina State (OL)
James Madison (OL)
Cornell (OL)
Virginia (OL)
Virginia (OC)
Kansas State
I absolutely didn't even think of what Snyder did at Iowa. When RowdyBoyy brought up the accomplishments at Iowa my point evolved to pointing out that AD's who hire coaches at the time didn't really care about what Iowa did while Snyder was there. Yes, LHC Bill Snyder did more at Iowa than Ron Prince did at Virginia, who the hell would debate that? All of those accomplishments were not good for much because Ron Prince ended up with a job four times better than what LHC Bill Snyder ended up with. And before someone tries to attribute something to me that I didn't say, I'm not making the argument that Ron Prince should have gotten a better job than Snyder.
