Carr Bros.

[Cartierfor3]

Good lord. I was not aware of this story. Hard to read. Just disgusting.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Wow just read that link about what happened.


Holy balls this seems like an ez call

It comes down to whether you think the role of your government should be that of a parent who punishes people when they do wrong or whether you think it should be a minimalist entity that only gets involved to remove people from society in a humane way to the benefit of everyone else. I tend to go with the latter, but my Christian beliefs that you should forgive, turn the other cheek, not kill people, etc. make it a pretty easy call for me.

[SdK]

Live by the gun die by the gun. Thats what I always say.

[SdK]

Let the boys in prison run a train on them. Break it up. Then once they heal up let them have some unsupervised yard time

[SdK]

Will help with sexual frustration and rage issues for those inside and theyre dead. Win win

[SdK]

Let the boys in prison run a train on them. Break it up. Then once they heal up let them have some unsupervised yard time

Play that song "In Cars" during the train sesh too

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think they should let them exercise daily, have access to any reading material they request, be fed well, have proper medical care, and have a clean bed to sleep on. Also, prisoners who get in fights, rape other prisoners, etc. should be kept in solitary confinement so that stops happening. It's pretty sick and disgusting, and it's disgraceful that we acknowledge that it happens and not only choose to do nothing about it, but celebrate it.

[michigancat]

I think they should let them exercise daily, have access to any reading material they request, be fed well, have proper medical care, and have a clean bed to sleep on. Also, prisoners who get in fights, rape other prisoners, etc. should be kept in solitary confinement so that stops happening. It's pretty sick and disgusting, and it's disgraceful that we acknowledge that it happens and not only choose to do nothing about it, but celebrate it.

I think solitary confinement (as it is generally defined) is also pretty cruel.

http://ccrjustice.org/solitary-factsheet

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think they should let them exercise daily, have access to any reading material they request, be fed well, have proper medical care, and have a clean bed to sleep on. Also, prisoners who get in fights, rape other prisoners, etc. should be kept in solitary confinement so that stops happening. It's pretty sick and disgusting, and it's disgraceful that we acknowledge that it happens and not only choose to do nothing about it, but celebrate it.

I think solitary confinement (as it is generally defined) is also pretty cruel.

Maybe, but it's a lot less cruel than letting somebody who likes to rape other inmates hang out with other inmates.

[WildcatNkilt]

I think the death penalty should be made public and tickets should be sold like a sporting event.  All proceeds go to the cost of the execution and the victim's families.  This should be done for people like the Carr bros and pedophiles. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think the death penalty should be made public and tickets should be sold like a sporting event.  All proceeds go to the cost of the execution and the victim's families.  This should be done for people like the Carr bros and pedophiles.

What kind of sick individual would attend one, let alone pay money to attend?

[8manpick]

I think they should let them exercise daily, have access to any reading material they request, be fed well, have proper medical care, and have a clean bed to sleep on.

What right do they have to a fairly good life (which is what you described)? Didn't they forfeit that when they tortured and murdered people? The only arguments against capital punishment that I can wrap my head around are those that are based on:

1. The potential of convicting an movement person (n/a here)
2. The idea that life in prison is worse than death. (Not in your idyllic scenario)
3. The theory that capital punishment cases end up costing taxpayers more than life sentences

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think they should let them exercise daily, have access to any reading material they request, be fed well, have proper medical care, and have a clean bed to sleep on.

What right do they have to a fairly good life (which is what you described)? Didn't they forfeit that when they tortured and murdered people? The only arguments against capital punishment that I can wrap my head around are those that are based on:

1. The potential of convicting an movement person (n/a here)
2. The idea that life in prison is worse than death. (Not in your idyllic scenario)
3. The theory that capital punishment cases end up costing taxpayers more than life sentences

I don't believe that what I described is a fairly good life at all. It's a miserable life where people still treat you like you are a human being. These guys committed terrible crimes, but they are still human.

[michigancat]

I think they should let them exercise daily, have access to any reading material they request, be fed well, have proper medical care, and have a clean bed to sleep on.

What right do they have to a fairly good life (which is what you described)? Didn't they forfeit that when they tortured and murdered people? The only arguments against capital punishment that I can wrap my head around are those that are based on:

1. The potential of convicting an movement person (n/a here)
2. The idea that life in prison is worse than death. (Not in your idyllic scenario)
3. The theory that capital punishment cases end up costing taxpayers more than life sentences

4. Killing people is wrong?

[8manpick]

I think they should let them exercise daily, have access to any reading material they request, be fed well, have proper medical care, and have a clean bed to sleep on.

What right do they have to a fairly good life (which is what you described)? Didn't they forfeit that when they tortured and murdered people? The only arguments against capital punishment that I can wrap my head around are those that are based on:

1. The potential of convicting an movement person (n/a here)
2. The idea that life in prison is worse than death. (Not in your idyllic scenario)
3. The theory that capital punishment cases end up costing taxpayers more than life sentences

4. Killing people is wrong?

I suppose that is a logical argument. Not one I agree with in cases like this, but certainly understandable.

[slobber]

Surprised that some of you are Kansans and not aware of this. First time I've really felt old on gE.


Gonna win 'em all!

[Cartierfor3]

Surprised that some of you are Kansans and not aware of this. First time I've really felt old on gE.


Gonna win 'em all!

It was my senior year of high school. I paid little/no attention to the news in those days.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I think they should let them exercise daily, have access to any reading material they request, be fed well, have proper medical care, and have a clean bed to sleep on.

What right do they have to a fairly good life (which is what you described)? Didn't they forfeit that when they tortured and murdered people? The only arguments against capital punishment that I can wrap my head around are those that are based on:

1. The potential of convicting an movement person (n/a here)
2. The idea that life in prison is worse than death. (Not in your idyllic scenario)
3. The theory that capital punishment cases end up costing taxpayers more than life sentences

I don't believe that what I described is a fairly good life at all. It's a miserable life where people still treat you like you are a human being. These guys committed terrible crimes, but they are still human.

Again, just a quick point of correction, I really don't think these monsters qualify as "human."

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think they should let them exercise daily, have access to any reading material they request, be fed well, have proper medical care, and have a clean bed to sleep on.

What right do they have to a fairly good life (which is what you described)? Didn't they forfeit that when they tortured and murdered people? The only arguments against capital punishment that I can wrap my head around are those that are based on:

1. The potential of convicting an movement person (n/a here)
2. The idea that life in prison is worse than death. (Not in your idyllic scenario)
3. The theory that capital punishment cases end up costing taxpayers more than life sentences

I don't believe that what I described is a fairly good life at all. It's a miserable life where people still treat you like you are a human being. These guys committed terrible crimes, but they are still human.

Again, just a quick point of correction, I really don't think these monsters qualify as "human."

Well, clearly you are letting your emotions get the better of you.

[SdK]

Be their penpal then

[CNS]

I don't think prison should be comfy.  I am not for rape and what not, but definitely think that there should be no library other than law materials, tv, classes, color finishes, hot water, etc in max prisons for violent offenders.  Keep them safe, warm, fed, and that is it.

If you want to have a discussion on sentencing restructuring or something like that, I would be all for it.  However, if you kill someone(not standing your ground, of course), then you should be treated like an animal.  Not as punishment, but as a deterrent for others. 

Take all the money you want to spend on that crap and put it into prevention, mental health programs, education, etc.  Basically anything that statistically shows that ppl with such things have a lower incarceration rate. 

[SdK]

If people want people that commit these heinous acts to be provided with room, board, and an education, they can donate money to pay for that.

Hungry? Homeless? Ill? Go on a rape and murder spree and get room, board, excercise, healthcare, friends, and an education for life!

[SdK]

I really wouldnt give a eff if it was a walled off domed city that violent, heinous people were kept in to establish their own brand of justice, laws, customs, etc. Air drop food in once a week and call it a day.

[SdK]

Does everyone understand how little regard I have for people like the carrs?

Yes!!

Ok, I'm done.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think prison should be comfy.  I am not for rape and what not, but definitely think that there should be no library other than law materials, tv, classes, color finishes, hot water, etc in max prisons for violent offenders.  Keep them safe, warm, fed, and that is it.

If you want to have a discussion on sentencing restructuring or something like that, I would be all for it.  However, if you kill someone(not standing your ground, of course), then you should be treated like an animal.  Not as punishment, but as a deterrent for others. 

Take all the money you want to spend on that crap and put it into prevention, mental health programs, education, etc.  Basically anything that statistically shows that ppl with such things have a lower incarceration rate.

Some violent offenders are going to get out of prison eventually. They share facilities with murderers who won't. What do you expect them to do when they get out if you put them into a facility where you treat them like an animal for 10 years?

If people want people that commit these heinous acts to be provided with room, board, and an education, they can donate money to pay for that.

Hungry? Homeless? Ill? Go on a rape and murder spree and get room, board, excercise, healthcare, friends, and an education for life!

If I were hungry, homeless, and ill, I would probably just go to a soup kitchen so I could have interaction with people who aren't violent criminals and not be confined to a cell with bars for the rest of my life, but different strokes for different folks, I guess.