Israel - Hamas peace process

[michigancat]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

Does that, in your mind, help justify what is happening?

in your mind, it is justifiable that jews should line themselves up to be killed so as to not inconvenience the gentiles?

I think you should seriously consider taking a break from twitter

I don’t know what sys’s twitter looks like, but mine isn’t at all friendly to Israel or “the Jews,” it’s coming from the left and the right.

That said, taking a break from Twitter, is usually a good idea.

I can't say for sure but I'm guessing the people you follow that are unfriendly to "the Jews" are way more right-leaning than people primarily critical of "Israel".

[I_have_purplewood]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

Does that, in your mind, help justify what is happening?

in your mind, it is justifiable that jews should line themselves up to be killed so as to not inconvenience the gentiles?

I think you should seriously consider taking a break from twitter

I don’t know what sys’s twitter looks like, but mine isn’t at all friendly to Israel or “the Jews,” it’s coming from the left and the right.

That said, taking a break from Twitter, is usually a good idea.

I can't say for sure but I'm guessing the people you follow that are unfriendly to "the Jews" are way more right-leaning than people primarily critical of "Israel".

And this is why he should take a break from twitter?  He's lucky to have you guys guide his mental state and what he's involved with on twitter.

[michigancat]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

Does that, in your mind, help justify what is happening?

in your mind, it is justifiable that jews should line themselves up to be killed so as to not inconvenience the gentiles?

I think you should seriously consider taking a break from twitter

I don’t know what sys’s twitter looks like, but mine isn’t at all friendly to Israel or “the Jews,” it’s coming from the left and the right.

That said, taking a break from Twitter, is usually a good idea.

I can't say for sure but I'm guessing the people you follow that are unfriendly to "the Jews" are way more right-leaning than people primarily critical of "Israel".

And this is why he should take a break from twitter?  He's lucky to have you guys guide his mental state and what he's involved with on twitter.

No

[sys]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

Does that, in your mind, help justify what is happening?

in your mind, it is justifiable that jews should line themselves up to be killed so as to not inconvenience the gentiles?

I think you should seriously consider taking a break from twitter

i read the same nazi-inflected filth right here on goEMAW.com, so i don't know how forgoing twitter would improve my view of my compatriots.

[nicname]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

Does that, in your mind, help justify what is happening?

in your mind, it is justifiable that jews should line themselves up to be killed so as to not inconvenience the gentiles?

I think you should seriously consider taking a break from twitter

I don’t know what sys’s twitter looks like, but mine isn’t at all friendly to Israel or “the Jews,” it’s coming from the left and the right.

That said, taking a break from Twitter, is usually a good idea.

I can't say for sure but I'm guessing the people you follow that are unfriendly to "the Jews" are way more right-leaning than people primarily critical of "Israel".

And this is why he should take a break from twitter?  He's lucky to have you guys guide his mental state and what he's involved with on twitter.

Because Twitter is designed to keep you engaged by feeding you the most agitating, divisive, extreme content and takes possible.

It’s not good for people to spend a lot of time on Twitter.

Less of a big deal if you only engage in sports stuffs and like cute animal and nature content. But if you spend any amount of time in topics like news and politics, religion, etc. on there you’re going to get it.
 

[michigancat]

Separately, but related, I personally believe that the Muslim communities around the Israelis would do the exact same thing to the Jews if the positions were reversed and would similarly claim Devine right to do so.

Does that, in your mind, help justify what is happening?

in your mind, it is justifiable that jews should line themselves up to be killed so as to not inconvenience the gentiles?

I think you should seriously consider taking a break from twitter

i read the same nazi-inflected filth right here on goEMAW.com, so i don't know how forgoing twitter would improve my view of my compatriots.

Could you share a post or two on here that you consider "Nazi-infected filth"?

[Sandstone Outcropping]

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1846905925216399761

[Pete]

Well, there is something that we can all celebrate!

[michigancat]

yep looks like the Gaza/Hamas problem is solved! Great news

[Kat Kid]

I hope this killing leads to less killing.

[Pete]

I share that hope.

[Pete]

yep looks like the Gaza/Hamas problem is solved! Great news

This sounds like you meant this sarcastically. Are you displeased with the death of the Hamas leader?

[wetwillie]

Was KK the gE.c nazi sympathizer?

[michigancat]

yep looks like the Gaza/Hamas problem is solved! Great news

This sounds like you meant this sarcastically. Are you displeased with the death of the Hamas leader?

He's a bad guy and I won't lose any sleep over his death. But I don't think the way he was killed was worth the collateral death and damage caused, nor do I think it is a meaningful step towards peace or returning hostages or treating the people of Gaza like humans.

But maybe I'm wrong! Let's hope so.

[sys]

everything kk has posted.  at least half of what you post.

[Kat Kid]

I think if you are going to tarnish people with posting "Nazi-infected filth" and can't even be bothered to cite an example and reason, you should withdraw the claim.

That being said, I don't think it seems a productive route for you to try and prove a claim that is so self-evidently outrageous.

[michigancat]

I think if you are going to tarnish people with posting "Nazi-infected filth" and can't even be bothered to cite an example and reason, you should withdraw the claim.

That being said, I don't think it seems a productive route for you to try and prove a claim that is so self-evidently outrageous.

Yeah he shared enough

[Pete]

yep looks like the Gaza/Hamas problem is solved! Great news

This sounds like you meant this sarcastically. Are you displeased with the death of the Hamas leader?

He's a bad guy and I won't lose any sleep over his death. But I don't think the way he was killed was worth the collateral death and damage caused, nor do I think it is a meaningful step towards peace or returning hostages or treating the people of Gaza like humans.

But maybe I'm wrong! Let's hope so.

Do you think it is a meaningful step to prevent to weaken Hamas and work toward reducing further Hamas attacks?  Those a good and productive aims, are they not?  Did you intend your list of virtues to be comprehensive?

[michigancat]

yep looks like the Gaza/Hamas problem is solved! Great news

This sounds like you meant this sarcastically. Are you displeased with the death of the Hamas leader?

He's a bad guy and I won't lose any sleep over his death. But I don't think the way he was killed was worth the collateral death and damage caused, nor do I think it is a meaningful step towards peace or returning hostages or treating the people of Gaza like humans.

But maybe I'm wrong! Let's hope so.

Do you think it is a meaningful step to prevent to weaken Hamas and work toward reducing further Hamas attacks? 

I don't, when the broader context of what was done to Gaza in the last year is considered. Maybe temporarily but probably not in the long term. Anyone that isn't killed but wasn't going to fight Israel might want to fight Israel now. The whole vengeance thing with a little bit of extra destruction, ya know?

I do think reducing Hamas attacks would be great - maybe consider a cease fire? Dunno

[Pete]

yep looks like the Gaza/Hamas problem is solved! Great news

This sounds like you meant this sarcastically. Are you displeased with the death of the Hamas leader?

He's a bad guy and I won't lose any sleep over his death. But I don't think the way he was killed was worth the collateral death and damage caused, nor do I think it is a meaningful step towards peace or returning hostages or treating the people of Gaza like humans.

But maybe I'm wrong! Let's hope so.

Do you think it is a meaningful step to prevent to weaken Hamas and work toward reducing further Hamas attacks? 

I don't, when the broader context of what was done to Gaza in the last year is considered. Maybe temporarily but probably not in the long term. Anyone that isn't killed but wasn't going to fight Israel might want to fight Israel now. The whole vengeance thing with a little bit of extra destruction, ya know?

I do think reducing Hamas attacks would be great - maybe consider a cease fire? Dunno

I think you are underestimating the value of a highly experienced command structure for a military organization. I suspect that Hamas is greatly weakened.

[wetwillie]

I don't think killing this guy really does much other than symbolically says we can touch you nearly anywhere.

[Pete]

And symbolically allowing Israeli conservatives to declare a victory of sorts and speed up negotiations for a cease fire.

[michigancat]

I think you are underestimating the value of a highly experienced command structure for a military organization. I suspect that Hamas is greatly weakened.

I might be! And it likely will be weakened in the short term (although I don't know how much Hamas has been attacking lately). I also don't really know how Hamas is structured. I imagine most militaries have a few people qualified to run the show when the top guy is killed.

[sonofdaxjones]

Could be in either thread, but we bombed Yemen yesterday.

Pilots not in a combat zone, tho . . .


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[Kat Kid]

And symbolically allowing Israeli conservatives to declare a victory of sorts and speed up negotiations for a cease fire.

Let's grant that.

What is the thing that will happen that will end this war?

Netanyahu/Israel have said
1) unilateral return of hostages
2) complete destruction of Hamas

Neither of those have proven possible after a year militarily. Israel has said in exchange for the hostages they will offer a "pause" in the fighting. I'm not 100% sure what the latest count is, but I don't think these facts are in dispute:

1) Israel has freed by far the most hostages through negotiations
2) Israel has killed more hostages than they've freed by force

If Israel wants to declare victory, I would welcome it!

There is zero evidence for that being imminent, other than some Western ally wish casting.

As for if this allows Israel to finally defeat Hamas, I guess I don't even know what that means or how Israel would define it. Gallant had a quote today saying Gaza will be occupied for years to come. Who will rule Gaza? Seems like the idea is to make it completely uninhabitable so that it can be ethnically cleansed. If anyone has a simpler explanation or any kind of plan that has been communicated by the Israelis, I'd love to hear it.