Israel - Hamas peace process

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

So I'm watching the CBS morning news this morning and they put on an interview with a Hamas spokesman. Here is how the interview went:

CBS - "Hamas has fired more than 1000 missiles into Israel over the last week. More than 90% have been destroyed in the air by Israel and the rest have not hit a target and no Israelis have been killed. Why do you continue to fire missiles?"

Hamas -  "If nobody has been killed, why is Israel waging war against us?"

 

[Dugout DickStone]

Never understood what the Palestinians beef with Israel is.

[brandochav]

Never understood what the Palestinians beef with Israel is.

Then you haven't been paying attention history or the present.

[8manpick]

Never understood why Israel

[Dugout DickStone]

Never understood what the Palestinians beef with Israel is.

Then you haven't been paying attention history or the present.

I guess I'm with john dougie, forgive and forget ect.

[CNS]

I get it on a person by person level.  I mean, I heard a story several years ago where families in Gaza were being kicked off land that their families had deeds to from several hundreds of years ago.  They had one guy in particular who's family had owned some goat ranch or something since like 1100AD and was being removed and Isreal was building condos there. 

No clue if all this is accurate or not, but if so, I could get how an entire region of ppl with similar stories would be willing to go full rockets on such a sitch.

I understand there are similar stories on the other side as well.

I don't get how anyone negotiates a win out of that.  It's too old and deep of an issue.  One will pretty much have to fully destroy the other for this to not rocket back to the surface every few years.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So I'm watching the CBS morning news this morning and they put on an interview with a Hamas spokesman. Here is how the interview went:

CBS - "Hamas has fired more than 1000 missiles into Israel over the last week. More than 90% have been destroyed in the air by Israel and the rest have not hit a target and no Israelis have been killed. Why do you continue to fire missiles?"

Hamas -  "If nobody has been killed, why is Israel waging war against us?"

 

Is that what Jay Carney's doing now? Wow. Bigtime upgrade, natural fit.

[8manpick]

Are there any good reading materials on the creation of Israel that aren't too biased one way or another?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Are there any good reading materials on the creation of Israel that aren't too biased one way or another?

I don't know much about Israel other than the Jewish people have been there off and on for at least 3000 years. They get kicked out every time some other group wants to take over, but they always end up going back.

[8manpick]

Are there any good reading materials on the creation of Israel that aren't too biased one way or another?

I don't know much about Israel other than the Jewish people have been there off and on for at least 3000 years. They get kicked out every time some other group wants to take over, but they always end up going back.

Same. Mostly interested in more recent history culminating in the creation of the Israeli state

[MeatSauce]

"Exodus" and "The Haj" are both novels about the events leading up to and the creation of Israel by Leon Uris from Jewish and Palestinian perspectives, respectively. They're both very good reads and well respected, but I cannot speak to the accuracy of either.

[Kat Kid]

Are there any good reading materials on the creation of Israel that aren't too biased one way or another?

I don't know much about Israel other than the Jewish people have been there off and on for at least 3000 years. They get kicked out every time some other group wants to take over, but they always end up going back.

Same. Mostly interested in more recent history culminating in the creation of the Israeli state

Palestine and the Arab-Israeli Conflict: A History With Documents by Charles D. Smith

[mortons toe]

1948... Israel is established, by force, by removing Palestinian residents, destroying the residential areas, and placing the Palestinians in walled off 'territories'. Hmmm... no wonder they're so pissed off.
 

[nicname]

I haven't read any of the above listed book, but as far as I can tell Israel/ Palestine is a lot like the U.S. / Indian Nations on a much smaller scale and with more modern weapons.

[Cire]

Hamas fires rockets because they hate Jews not because someone took their land

[nicname]

Hamas fires rockets because they hate Jews not because someone took their land

Not sure if serious.

[star seed 7]

Religion is the worst. Who else would fight over some shitty sand

[nicname]

Religion is the worst. Who else would fight over some shitty sand

There wasn't a whole lot of fighting (AFAIK) until outside entities began propping up regimes, building nations, and displacing others in the region. Divisions along religious lines are convenient battle flags tho, once the fighting starts.

[8manpick]

Hamas fires rockets because they hate Jews not because someone took their land

Hamas hates Jews because the Jews stole their land?

[Cire]

For Christ sakes Christians took their land

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Religion is the worst. Who else would fight over some shitty sand

Dude, it's beach property.

[mortons toe]

For Christ sakes Christians took their land

Ummm... 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

For Christ sakes Christians took their land

It seems pretty much everybody has taken their land at some point in history. Greeks, Romans, Muslims, Christians, etc.

[DQ12]

Hamas fires rockets because they hate Jews not because someone took their land

Hamas hates Jews because the Jews stole their land?

No it's because they hate the Jews' freedoms and coca-colas and michael jordan sneeks.

[EMAFW]

Never understood what the Palestinians beef with Israel is.

This should sum it up...