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« Reply #1300 on: November 13, 2024, 03:15:34 PM »
What is the trump-elon breakup going to look like?
It would only occur in conjunction with the flow of cash being turned off. So, it’s unlikely to occur. My guess is that it would take a global financial crisis and the insolvency of social security…a “we can either go to mars/save tesla/save X or save social security.”  Put another way, maga would have to universally agree on both the trade off being necessary and the winner being not Elon.

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« Reply #1301 on: November 13, 2024, 03:20:17 PM »
Naw man, it's inevitable. Probably before 2026
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« Reply #1302 on: November 13, 2024, 03:22:00 PM »
Prediction - dax will be hate posting about Elon and his disloyalty
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« Reply #1303 on: November 13, 2024, 04:08:23 PM »
Elon can do whatever he wants.

It's just been glorious watching the StalkerBots of the world meltdown about Musk.


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« Reply #1304 on: November 13, 2024, 07:02:27 PM »
Musk will brag about Trump being his bitch or something that while being true will humiliate Trump and he he can’t stand being called obese.

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« Reply #1305 on: November 13, 2024, 07:37:13 PM »
Elon does still call him “Donald” when Elon talks about Trump. Bet Trump hates that.

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« Reply #1306 on: November 14, 2024, 12:19:10 AM »
Elon does still call him “Donald” when Elon talks about Trump. Bet Trump hates that.

I dunno. Here we have two adult man children with zero collective ability to cultivate normal, functional relationships. Both with a touch of the 'tism. How do we know they won't become best friends, a la Step Brothers?
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« Reply #1307 on: November 14, 2024, 01:29:26 AM »
Musk takes a run at loomer.

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« Reply #1308 on: November 21, 2024, 09:08:14 AM »
The US and Israel don't recognize the ICC so Netanyahu can still come to Congress and get some standing O's without looking over his shoulder.

After the election, of course 19 Democratic Senators finally found the backbone to call for the US to abide by its own laws and stop arming Israel. If Cheney can still show his face around (and even endorse Kamala!) then this means basically nothing in practical terms, but it is worth noting that again an independent investigation will have concluded the obvious with overwhelming evidence on display, largely substantiated and clear intent conveyed through the publicly statements of these two men (and throughout the rest of the cabinet ministers) and the incessant social media posts of IDF soldiers committing war crime after war crime as they smile and laugh.

https://www.reuters.com/world/icc-issues-arrest-warrants-israels-netanyahu-gallant-hamas-leader-2024-11-21/



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« Reply #1309 on: November 21, 2024, 06:28:17 PM »

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« Reply #1310 on: November 25, 2024, 11:27:11 AM »
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/25/israel-lebanon-near-hezbollah-ceasefire-deal

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Behind the scenes: The agreement was nearing completion last Thursday when the International Criminal Court issued arrest warrants against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his former defense minister, Yoav Gallant, U.S. and Israeli officials say.

The news came while Netanyahu was meeting with U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein, who has been mediating for a year between Israel and Lebanon.
Netanyahu was outraged, and grew even more angry after the French Foreign Ministry announced that France would implement the court's ruling.
That threw a wrench into the negotiations, as Lebanon had wanted France to be part of the oversight committee to monitor implementation of the agreement.


On Friday, Biden spoke to French President Emmanuel Macron to try to solve the problem.

A U.S. official said Biden told Macron that Netanyahu was right to be angry, and that it was not possible to mediate a deal while also pledging to arrest the head of state of one of the parties.

Macron told Biden he wanted to help but that his Foreign Ministry was only making clear its legal obligations towards the ICC. The French issued second statement to try to tamp down the tensions.

On Saturday, Hochstein sent a message to Netanyahu through Israeli Ambassador to Washington Mike Herzog in which he threatened to withdraw as mediator if Israel did not move towards a deal in the coming days, according to a source familiar with the matter.

Update: The crisis was resolved in the last 24 hours, the U.S. official said on Monday. France agreed to take steps to improve relations with Israel, and Israel agreed that France could have a role in the implementation of the deal.

The ICC ruling has led to such hilarious squirming from the EU countries.

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« Reply #1311 on: December 01, 2024, 03:35:51 PM »
What is old is new again because Israel finally wrapped up their investigation in to the killing of Hind Rajab. Here is the most exhaustive investigative report by a UK news organization that make a compelling case that the IDF killed Hind and her entire family in some of the most indefensible and harrowing circumstances I can imagine. As a parent it shocks the senses and I admit, the first response is to try and not think about it or deny it because it is so outrageous.

I doubt anyone here will bother or can stomach reading all of it but here it is anyways:

https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/the-killing-of-hind-rajab

If you can, at least witness the very simple questions that the US is unable to answer about Hind's killing and the IDF investigation into it:
https://x.com/prem_thakker/status/1861104651577237516

Remember, the entire premise of why Israel should not be subject to ICC investigation and why the US should continue to supply Israel with weapons of war is that Israel is able to investigate and punish their own war criminals and has an independent justice system capable of overseeing this. They are the self-proclaimed "most moral army in the world."

Feel free to judge the investigation for yourself. And if the only thought that you can muster in defense of this is "well Hamas would do just as bad or worse" then what even is the point of having any rules to protect civilians at all? Why even bother with it? I've already seen more than a fair bit of this attitude with regard to this conflict and it is well documented in the numerous statements by Israeli political and military leaders about their intentions to collectively punish the Palestinian population as a whole.

https://theintercept.com/2024/06/25/israel-hind-rajab-child-killing/

In other "old news" the IDF killed more Central World Kitchen workers, without much of an outrage, certainly compared to last time. Wouldn't ya know it? The CWK worker was an Oct 7th terrorist and we should definitely take the IDF's word for it.

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CAIRO, Nov 30 (Reuters) - Two aid workers were killed in Israeli airstrikes in Gaza on Saturday, with Israel saying it had killed a militant who took part in the Oct. 7, 2023 Hamas attacks on Israel and who it said was employed by a U.S.-based charity.
The first was a World Central Kitchen member, who was hit in a vehicle in Khan Younis in Southern Gaza. The Israeli military said that he had taken part in the attack on Kibbutz Nir Oz in southern Israel and was under surveillance but did not offer any evidence.

The Biden admin in its last days after the election loss managed to claim that despite essentially all international human rights groups concluding that Israel did not comply with the US own 30 day deadline to improve their conduct or else.....(actually nothing will happen if they don't change anything at all as everyone already knew)...managed to again provide excuses and deny the very obvious facts that show that Israel's conduct has been consistently criminal and even as we speak they are planning to settle Gaza, with settlers even being driven through the ruins of Gaza by IDF commanders to plan their settlements

If the ICC arrest warrant gets ignored by the western democracies in a bloc, then I really have to ask, what is international law worth anyway? You can surely argue that the US had already failed multiple tests of global moral leadership and respecting international law (it isn't just Tom Cotton that can be blamed for wanting to invade the Hague, it is a real US law on the books to protect Bush/Cheney and future war criminal US admins)...

I bet we miss international laws and institutions when they are totally gone. Especially as China continues to make their case to the rest of the world that it is a more stable and moral leader in world affairs.

Lastly, who the eff was this stunt for?

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« Reply #1312 on: December 01, 2024, 03:48:53 PM »
In fairness, here is the IDF's statement. Have to be fair.

https://x.com/prem_thakker/status/1861138346547834912

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« Reply #1313 on: December 02, 2024, 01:30:44 PM »
At least the cease-fire seems to be going well!

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   Lebanese officials said the Israeli air strikes on Monday killed one person in the town of Marjayoun, about 10km from the border with Israel. The other, a member of Lebanon’s state security forces, was killed on duty in the city of Nabatiyeh, about 12km from the border. 

In a separate incident, Lebanon’s army said an Israeli drone hit an army bulldozer in north-east Lebanon, near the border with Syria, wounding one soldier.

Israel’s military said it had carried out “several” strikes in south Lebanon to “thwart threats to Israeli civilians” and accused Hizbollah of acting “in violation of the understandings between Israel and Lebanon”.

It added that it was aware of reports that a Lebanese soldier had been injured and the incident was under investigation.

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« Reply #1314 on: Today at 10:27:17 AM »
KK - Israeli (US Made) and US bombs and missiles have been dropping in Lebanon-Syria-Iraq-Yemen-Gaza-The Red Sea for months (actually years) now. Did you really believe anything that this administration is doing was going to change any of that? 

Now they're working OT to try and get Assad out, which will create a failed state, on the border with Israel.

We have Russian-Syrian-US-Israeli (and probably others) jets dropping bombs on each others terrorists. 

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