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From ESPN...

DALLAS -- Commissioners at the College Football Playoff meetings have discussed going through mock exercises this week based on a template for the selection process and how the participants would be assigned to each game.

Not only must the selection committee establish a process to choose the top four teams, but it must also decide where (for example, this coming season, New Orleans or Los Angeles) each team should play.

More details on how the committee will choose the four participants for the first College Football Playoff could be finalized and announced as early as Wednesday.

Not only must the selection committee establish a process to choose the top four teams, but it must also decide where (for example, this coming season, New Orleans or Los Angeles) each team should play.

In the past, it has been discussed that a team seeded 1 or 2 should not be placed at a significant geographical disadvantage -- against, for example, a No. 3- or 4-seeded LSU in New Orleans or a No. 3- or 4-seeded UCLA in Los Angeles.

The committee also will use its rankings to determine which teams should be placed in top-tier bowl spots not contracted by particular conferences.

According to the College Football Playoff, the committee will assign teams to nonplayoff bowls in a way that creates the most compelling matchups possible while also considering factors such as geographic proximity and avoiding rematches of regular-season and recent bowl games.

Some commissioners, as well as some bowl executives, are interested in hearing more about how and why their teams would be placed in certain bowl locations.

Other items that could be finalized include when committee members will recuse themselves from team-specific discussions and when to begin and how often to release and publicly discuss the selection committee's rankings.



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This is great news for us given we are Americas team

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We'll be fine.

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Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2014, 12:29:50 PM by TheHamburglar »
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Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

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Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

She's probably a really smart lady and likes sports.

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Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

I'm assuming by saying "former BCS bowls that's aren't part of the CFP", you're talking about the other 4 bowls in the rotation that aren't semi-finals any given year.  The pool of at-large teams for those 4 bowls will be based on merit as determined by ranking by the committee.  If there are 3 at-large spots available in a given year, they will rank teams down as far as they need to go until they have 3 teams ranked that would be at-large teams.  Those are the three teams getting into those other bowls.  Your bolded part in your original post is about assigning those at-large teams to a bowl after they've been selected as an at-large via ranking.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2014, 02:07:06 PM by TheHamburglar »
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his point is we will get screwed down to the Orange or other crappy bowl even when we belong in a better one

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Guys, I think he was trying to say that Bill's brand of football isn't always considered "compelling to watch" so they might take a high flying offense over our hard nosed defense. Orr...something.

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his point is we will get screwed down to the Orange or other crappy bowl even when we belong in a better one

If that's what he's saying, then I don't get his complaint.  There are 3 at-large bowls we can be in.  Peach, Cotton, and Fiesta.  Orange Bowl is booked.  We aren't going to the Peach unless a really strange scenario plays out where it's the only open slot.  I don't really know how you'd rank the Cotton and Fiesta against each other to determine we got screwed down a level.
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his point is we will get screwed down to the Orange or other crappy bowl even when we belong in a better one

If that's what he's saying, then I don't get his complaint.  There are 3 at-large bowls we can be in.  Peach, Cotton, and Fiesta.  Orange Bowl is booked.  We aren't going to the Peach unless a really strange scenario plays out where it's the only open slot.  I don't really know how you'd rank the Cotton and Fiesta against each other to determine we got screwed down a level.

I see now what you're saying. The way I interpreted it was that K-state now still stands a chance of being left out of all the at large bowl bids even if we deserved one (similar to how at large BCS bids were).

Essentially, what I would want would be for the committee to just list the top ten teams and then match up 1vs4 and 2vs3 for the CFP, and then have the next highest teams on the list that aren't automatic bids for major bowls receive the at large spots. Rather than "compelling matchups" ie. perennial powerhouses

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Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

She's probably a really smart lady and likes sports.

I guess if there's going to be anyone on the committee who's completely impartial it would be her, and given that she stays well informed I guess there wouldn't be a problem.

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Essentially, what I would want would be for the committee to just list the top ten teams and then match up 1vs4 and 2vs3 for the CFP, and then have the next highest teams on the list that aren't automatic bids for major bowls receive the at large spots.

This is exactly what they are doing.  However, I do see your concern if KSU is an at-large/ pushed out of Sugar for a semi and a Duke/Wake Forest type make it as an at-large/get pushed out of the Orange Bowl for a semi, they'll go out of their way to match us up.
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Essentially, what I would want would be for the committee to just list the top ten teams and then match up 1vs4 and 2vs3 for the CFP, and then have the next highest teams on the list that aren't automatic bids for major bowls receive the at large spots.

This is exactly what they are doing.  However, I do see your concern if KSU is an at-large/ pushed out of Sugar for a semi and a Duke/Wake Forest type make it as an at-large/get pushed out of the Orange Bowl for a semi, they'll go out of their way to match us up.

Ok yeah, sorry for my misread. I didn't see that "The committee also will use its rankings to determine which teams should be placed in top-tier bowl spots not contracted by particular conferences." I think I just expected K-state to get crap on by this in someway as per usual.

And I have to say even though I think 8 is the perfect number for a playoff, this system should be sooo much better.

 :cheers: to fairness in college football.

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I hate most kstate fans and the 'poor me' attitude

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Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

She looks killer in a bikini

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Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

She loves football and is an awesome person.


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Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

she understands football better than you could ever hope to.

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Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

she understands football better than you could ever hope to.

Easy there killer, just asking a question.

She just seemed like kind of a random member with no ties to the NCAA.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2014, 05:11:37 PM by hippocraticoaf »

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Condi Rice is a well connected war mongering oil bitch!!

As for EMAW, just win and you're in!

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Condi rice haters are horrible people
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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I wonder how many college football games these people on the committee will watch this year?  How many are they expected to watch?

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Condi rice haters are horrible people

she's just gonna make a bunch of emotional picks :curse:

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I wonder how many college football games these people on the committee will watch this year?  How many are they expected to watch?

Honestly this.  I don't thing I've ever really thought this through before.  Do the people that do the rankings heavily rely on sports reporting?