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How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« on: April 17, 2014, 03:28:42 PM »
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Ok, so I was discussing this with a few friends who are familiar with European soccer and this was what we came up with.

In similar fashion to the Premier league as I understand it, each of the major leagues would have some small timey leagues as their "minor leagues" (This could be D2, D3, etc).  After every season the best team from the lower leagues would move up one division and the lowest teams would move down.  This would allow for the maximum amount of competition at the highest level.  In this case KU could move down a year, win a bunch games and then when their program was ready move up into the elites. 

Because of home and aways as it were it might need to be a two year cycle instead of a one year cycle.  If this were the case it might also need to be a two team shift down or up based on a compilation of the two years of performance. 

What do you guys think?


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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 03:30:24 PM »
It would just be the same 2 or 3 teams moving every year
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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 03:30:57 PM »
I think they should just expand the playoffs to 16 teams.

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 03:32:42 PM »
They should consider axing some full fbs members.
 

Ok, so I was discussing this with a few friends who are familiar with European soccer

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 03:37:48 PM »
D1 football is great. Love it.

If it's not broke, don't fix it I always say.

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2014, 03:40:39 PM »
It would just be the same 2 or 3 teams moving every year

Which is possible.  The issue arises there that recruiting would become difficult and it would be hard to maintain prestige for the schools dropping down a division. 

But. . . would winning at a school like KU in football for a few years and being nationally ranked in their division boost their fanbase support more than if they had no wins in D1?


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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2014, 03:41:28 PM »
I think they should just expand the playoffs to 16 teams.
8 and I agree. There is no reason for more.
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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2014, 03:46:51 PM »
I think they should just expand the playoffs to 16 teams.
8 and I agree. There is no reason for more.
I agree. College Basketball is pud to win a championship in. In College Football, you would never ever have team 9-16 win a championship. Even if it is only 4 games they would have to win verses the 6 that you have to win in B-Ball.

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2014, 03:49:16 PM »
8 teams would fit withing their "elite bowl rotation" too.  If you made it 16 teams what other two bowls would you move up to be an elite bowl?

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2014, 03:55:44 PM »
4 is rough ridin' fine for the playoffs

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2014, 03:59:32 PM »
4 is rough ridin' fine for the playoffs

I don't think we will know this for sure until it happens.  Too many variables IMHO

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2014, 04:00:48 PM »
4 is rough ridin' fine for the playoffs

4 is worse than 2. It should be 16. That way you can put the best few teams in it and fill the rest out with autobids. The best teams don't get byes, but they don't exactly have hard games, either.

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2014, 04:02:22 PM »
Quote from: Arsenal
sorry about your scholarship Michael, we dropped to d2 and we're gonna have to axe your schollie and 48 others

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2014, 04:02:41 PM »
8 teams would fit withing their "elite bowl rotation" too.  If you made it 16 teams what other two bowls would you move up to be an elite bowl?

I would separate the playoffs from the bowls completely. Travel logistics would be hard for fans to work out in a neutral site playoff scenario. It would be much better to just give the best teams home field advantage and play the championship game at a neutral site.

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2014, 04:06:06 PM »
8 teams would fit withing their "elite bowl rotation" too.  If you made it 16 teams what other two bowls would you move up to be an elite bowl?

I would separate the playoffs from the bowls completely. Travel logistics would be hard for fans to work out in a neutral site playoff scenario. It would be much better to just give the best teams home field advantage and play the championship game at a neutral site.
Yes, this. But maybe alot 25% to opposing fans instead of whatever it is now. But man, can you imagine a playoff game in BSFS. I would yell scream and prolly crap all over the place with excitement.
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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2014, 04:12:54 PM »
We would have had 2 home playoff games in 2012. :drool:

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2014, 04:27:57 PM »
I agree. College Basketball is pud to win a championship in.

Yeah, clearly, much easier as evidenced by all of the parity in college basketball.

The last 20 seasons have produced 13 different winners and 6 first time winners, and 5 teams winning multiple titles in that 20 season time frame.

In the same 20 season time frame college football has had 14 different winners, 5 first time winners, and 6 teams winning multiple championships within those 20 years.

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2014, 04:27:59 PM »
Quote from: Arsenal
sorry about your scholarship Michael, we dropped to d2 and we're gonna have to axe your schollie and 48 others

Very good point. . .perhaps a clause that if you're recruited at d1 level you are guaranteed X. X being whatever would work across the board such as free education and meal plan.  The difference being that if you are in D1 you also make a salary based on D1 levels.  The way to make it work would be to have D2 talked about and played up on TV/media as much as D1

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2014, 04:33:06 PM »
Should go back to BCS system.  It was perfect and pretty much always matched up 1 and 2.

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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2014, 04:37:22 PM »
Should go back to BCS system.  It was perfect and pretty much always matched up 1 and 2.

Well the playoff just needs to do what the BCS does and just reset the teams after the semifinal and make one #1 and the other #2. That's exactly how the BCS did it, just matched the teams deemed #1 & #2 up right before the last game is played. College basketball and baseball could do the same thing too :dunno:

"Oh you are the last two teams? Okay you're 1 and you're 2, good luck!"

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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2014, 04:40:51 PM »
Should go back to BCS system.  It was perfect and pretty much always matched up 1 and 2.

Well the playoff just needs to do what the BCS does and just reset the teams after the semifinal and make one #1 and the other #2. That's exactly how the BCS did it, just matched the teams deemed #1 & #2 up right before the last game is played. College basketball and baseball could do the same thing too :dunno:

"Oh you are the last two teams? Okay you're 1 and you're 2, good luck!"

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Re: How to fix D1 football as initiated by paked EMAWs
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2014, 04:47:03 PM »
I agree. College Basketball is pud to win a championship in.

Yeah, clearly, much easier as evidenced by all of the parity in college basketball.

The last 20 seasons have produced 13 different winners and 6 first time winners, and 5 teams winning multiple titles in that 20 season time frame.

In the same 20 season time frame college football has had 14 different winners, 5 first time winners, and 6 teams winning multiple championships within those 20 years.

can you site this?  the only ones i see are florida in 96 (and fsu in 93, colorado in 90 for slightly over 20 years). 
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2014, 04:49:20 PM »
can you site this?  the only ones i see are florida in 96 (and fsu in 93, colorado in 90 for slightly over 20 years).

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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2014, 09:45:00 PM »
Should go back to BCS system.  It was perfect and pretty much always matched up 1 and 2.

Well the playoff just needs to do what the BCS does and just reset the teams after the semifinal and make one #1 and the other #2. That's exactly how the BCS did it, just matched the teams deemed #1 & #2 up right before the last game is played. College basketball and baseball could do the same thing too :dunno:

"Oh you are the last two teams? Okay you're 1 and you're 2, good luck!"
They should've used the BCS to determine the top 4 and seeding instead of a selection committee.


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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2014, 04:34:49 AM »
I think 8 team playoffs will be the perfect number. 5th best team through at least the 7th can generally make cases that they're the best team in the country. Once you get into the 9-10 range I don't think you can really make that case any more.