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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #350 on: July 14, 2014, 09:53:13 PM »
Does anyone have cliffs on why sodomy is viewed as immoral? I know the bible had some story about the sodomites and the entire city died or something, I don't know, is that it?

Seems pretty flimsy.

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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #351 on: July 14, 2014, 09:55:12 PM »
Not a fan of sodomy, personally
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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #352 on: July 14, 2014, 09:59:35 PM »
Not a fan of sodomy, personally

Doesn't make it immoral.

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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #353 on: July 14, 2014, 10:03:19 PM »
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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #354 on: July 15, 2014, 10:24:48 AM »
Does anyone have cliffs on why sodomy is viewed as immoral? I know the bible had some story about the sodomites and the entire city died or something, I don't know, is that it?

Seems pretty flimsy.

Because it is intercourse that is not specifically for procreation (With the exception of Lawyers, HA HA HA HA HA HA H).
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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #355 on: July 15, 2014, 01:40:33 PM »
Does anyone have cliffs on why sodomy is viewed as immoral? I know the bible had some story about the sodomites and the entire city died or something, I don't know, is that it?

Seems pretty flimsy.

Because it is intercourse that is not specifically for procreation (With the exception of Lawyers, HA HA HA HA HA HA H).

does it say that in the bible?

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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #356 on: July 15, 2014, 01:51:17 PM »
Does anyone have cliffs on why sodomy is viewed as immoral? I know the bible had some story about the sodomites and the entire city died or something, I don't know, is that it?

Seems pretty flimsy.

Because it is intercourse that is not specifically for procreation (With the exception of Lawyers, HA HA HA HA HA HA H).

does it say that in the bible?

Anal sex between a man and a woman is not specifically addressed in the bible, actually.
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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #357 on: July 15, 2014, 01:55:54 PM »
Does anyone have cliffs on why sodomy is viewed as immoral? I know the bible had some story about the sodomites and the entire city died or something, I don't know, is that it?

Seems pretty flimsy.

Because it is intercourse that is not specifically for procreation (With the exception of Lawyers, HA HA HA HA HA HA H).

does it say that in the bible?

Anal sex between a man and a woman is not specifically addressed in the bible, actually.

neither is oral.  So, all allowed.

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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #358 on: July 15, 2014, 02:00:21 PM »
I assumed that the story of Sodam and Gomorah discussed it given that they are both considered bad and "sodomy".  :dunno:


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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #359 on: July 15, 2014, 02:02:31 PM »
Does anyone have cliffs on why sodomy is viewed as immoral? I know the bible had some story about the sodomites and the entire city died or something, I don't know, is that it?

Seems pretty flimsy.

Because it is intercourse that is not specifically for procreation (With the exception of Lawyers, HA HA HA HA HA HA H).

does it say that in the bible?

Anal sex between a man and a woman is not specifically addressed in the bible, actually.

neither is oral.  So, all allowed.

The term sodomy can be used for any sex besides penis in vagina. Not sure if the Bible is only referring to anal in that story though.

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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #360 on: July 15, 2014, 02:05:54 PM »
how do swimming pool squeezers factor in to this?

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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #361 on: July 15, 2014, 02:10:40 PM »
The term sodomy derives from the biblical story, but the term and its meaning post-date the bible.  It is clear that the bible condemns any type of sexual relations outside of marriage, but the "unnatural" acts referenced in the story of Sodom & Gomorrah and elsewhere probably refer to gay sex.  I don't know of anything in the bible that actually condemns anal/oral sex among consenting married adults. 
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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #362 on: July 15, 2014, 02:23:04 PM »
how do swimming pool squeezers factor in to this?

Does not lead to procreation therefore immoral.

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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #363 on: July 16, 2014, 01:00:04 AM »
Pete already gave the definitive explanation for this sitch boys and girl.  CASE CLOSED!

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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #364 on: July 16, 2014, 02:41:04 AM »
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The term sodomy derives from the biblical story, but the term and its meaning post-date the bible.  It is clear that the bible condemns any type of sexual relations outside of marriage, but the "unnatural" acts referenced in the story of Sodom & Gomorrah and elsewhere probably refer to gay sex.  I don't know of anything in the bible that actually condemns anal/oral sex among consenting married adults.

Ok, so why does the bible consider being gay immoral? I'm learning a lot here guys, never read the bible and haven't really ever contemplated religion more than superficially.

Not that I'm against religion or anything,I guess I'm just indifferent, but if they have some awesome explanation as to why being gay is "wrong" then maybe I can be swayed. I don't buy it being unnatural though, it exists in other species and is pretty clearly not a "decision".

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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #365 on: July 16, 2014, 04:00:19 AM »
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The term sodomy derives from the biblical story, but the term and its meaning post-date the bible.  It is clear that the bible condemns any type of sexual relations outside of marriage, but the "unnatural" acts referenced in the story of Sodom & Gomorrah and elsewhere probably refer to gay sex.  I don't know of anything in the bible that actually condemns anal/oral sex among consenting married adults.

Ok, so why does the bible consider being gay immoral? I'm learning a lot here guys, never read the bible and haven't really ever contemplated religion more than superficially.

Not that I'm against religion or anything,I guess I'm just indifferent, but if they have some awesome explanation as to why being gay is "wrong" then maybe I can be swayed. I don't buy it being unnatural though, it exists in other species and is pretty clearly not a "decision".


Like Sprac said, biblically any sex outside of marriage is a big  :nono:. I don't think sodomy refers in any specific way to gay sex. As far as I can tell, sodomy is a group of morally detestable things that were going on at the time in Sodom ie. not housing the needy, forcing yourself upon others, sloth, gluttony, idol worship, at the time. Basically Sodom and Gomorrah (not the cities' real names) and some other towns in the area were involved in all sorts of nasty stuff. I question Lot offering his daughters to these angels so they wouldn't go have orgies with the mobs outside, it goes against my own moral compass, but at least he offered these angels a place to stay so they wouldn't get butt-raped (imo, one of the real sins of Sodom).

The other part of the bible that supposedly really goes after gay sex is Leviticus, but I think that has more to do with it messing up the male-dominated order of society. The rules and regulations given to the Levites were totally manly. Like, women weren't even supposed to be privy to them or know they exist. Not in a bad way to women. That is just how the Levites believed they were supposed to run their crap. Obviously if dudes were hooking up with dudes it would be a) outside of marriage b) equating men with women, and that wouldn't jive with the structure of society, just like a lot of stuff the Levites were instructed to do or not do.

Perhaps the reason that gay sex was considered wrong (if it was) is because it is idolizing pleasure.

Who knows.

I don't think homosexuality is "normal" though. It's definitely not uncommon, or as uncommon as people might have wanted to believe throughout history. Still, in a species where sex is mate fun and attractive for the purpose of making forwarding the species more likely to happen, gay sex doesn't really serve that purpose.

There's probably some inherent need that society has or purpose that gay people serve, to populate the celibate priesthood?  Something else? :dunno:

Lastly, this whole thing about choice is pretty easy, at least imo, to figure out. People definitely don't have a choice as to whether they're attracted sexually to men, women, fat people, beautiful people, etc., but they definitely have a choice whether or not to act on their attraction.
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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #366 on: July 16, 2014, 06:19:17 AM »
I'm not going to put words in your mouth, nic, but that last phrase you use often leads down a shitty road. Would you suggest that such people choose to repress some such attractions if they don't fit within a societal norm?
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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #367 on: July 16, 2014, 07:52:11 AM »
I'm not going to put words in your mouth, nic, but that last phrase you use often leads down a shitty road. Would you suggest that such people choose to repress some such attractions if they don't fit within a societal norm?

I wouldn't suggest anything.
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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #368 on: July 16, 2014, 08:28:15 PM »
The newly weds have a strange sex life from what I have gathered from my convos with them.  One example, they havn't had sex in about a year.  They aren't very fair to each other as well.  Like one does oral but the other refuses to give it back.  I figured they would be gettin jiggy wit it like erry day.   :dunno: 

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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #369 on: July 16, 2014, 08:32:04 PM »
Like one does oral but the other refuses to give it back.     :dunno:

Sounds like they've got this marriage thing down pretty well :rimshot:
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« Reply #370 on: July 16, 2014, 08:50:36 PM »
I see what you did there.   :thumbs:

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« Reply #371 on: July 17, 2014, 09:38:10 AM »
The newly weds have a strange sex life from what I have gathered from my convos with them.  One example, they havn't had sex in about a year.  They aren't very fair to each other as well.  Like one does oral but the other refuses to give it back.  I figured they would be gettin jiggy wit it like erry day.   :dunno:

So you had a conversation with your brother and his husband about their sex life? Seems awkward.

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« Reply #372 on: July 17, 2014, 10:12:32 AM »
Like one does oral but the other refuses to give it back
I feel their pain.  :frown:

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« Reply #373 on: July 17, 2014, 10:14:36 AM »
The newly weds have a strange sex life from what I have gathered from my convos with them.  One example, they havn't had sex in about a year.  They aren't very fair to each other as well.  Like one does oral but the other refuses to give it back.  I figured they would be gettin jiggy wit it like erry day.   :dunno:

So you had a conversation with your brother and his husband about their sex life? Seems awkward.
When Ms. Wacky and I go have drinks with my uncles, they seem to do this a lot too. Not so much my uncle, but his partner. It's awkward when my straight friends talk about it, but their stories are pretty comical. :drink:
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Re: oaf is against the gay lifestyle
« Reply #374 on: July 17, 2014, 10:17:59 AM »
The newly weds have a strange sex life from what I have gathered from my convos with them.  One example, they havn't had sex in about a year.  They aren't very fair to each other as well.  Like one does oral but the other refuses to give it back.  I figured they would be gettin jiggy wit it like erry day.   :dunno:

So you had a conversation with your brother and his husband about their sex life? Seems awkward.
When Ms. Wacky and I go have drinks with my uncle, they seem to do this a lot too. Not so much my uncle, but his partner. It's awkward when my straight friends talk about it, but their stories are pretty comical. :drink:

At first I thought you were saying that Ms. Wacky was telling your uncle about your sex life.  :lol: