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in the end, EMAW will always win.
We can avoid WW3 without rendering NATO toothless. We've been doing it for 60 years. On the other hand, allowing oppressive dictators to take over weaker countries while we try to be isolationists sounds exactly like what leads to world wars.
Quote from: ChiCat on July 30, 2016, 06:01:08 PMWe can avoid WW3 without rendering NATO toothless. We've been doing it for 60 years. On the other hand, allowing oppressive dictators to take over weaker countries while we try to be isolationists sounds exactly like what leads to world wars.Overthrowing or trying to overthrow relatively stable, predominantly secular governments in the Middle East sounds like another good way. But really, we've been encircling and poking the hurt bear since the Clinton administration and its quite clear Hillary intends to keep doing it. Sooner or later they were and are going to do something about it.
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on July 30, 2016, 07:08:27 PMQuote from: ChiCat on July 30, 2016, 06:01:08 PMWe can avoid WW3 without rendering NATO toothless. We've been doing it for 60 years. On the other hand, allowing oppressive dictators to take over weaker countries while we try to be isolationists sounds exactly like what leads to world wars.Overthrowing or trying to overthrow relatively stable, predominantly secular governments in the Middle East sounds like another good way. But really, we've been encircling and poking the hurt bear since the Clinton administration and its quite clear Hillary intends to keep doing it. Sooner or later they were and are going to do something about it.you realize the middle east didn't start with Bill Clinton, right? it started with your boy GHW Bush.or is the hurt bear russia? you realize that the cold war started in the 40s, right?
Quote from: treysolid on July 30, 2016, 07:15:43 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on July 30, 2016, 07:08:27 PMQuote from: ChiCat on July 30, 2016, 06:01:08 PMWe can avoid WW3 without rendering NATO toothless. We've been doing it for 60 years. On the other hand, allowing oppressive dictators to take over weaker countries while we try to be isolationists sounds exactly like what leads to world wars.Overthrowing or trying to overthrow relatively stable, predominantly secular governments in the Middle East sounds like another good way. But really, we've been encircling and poking the hurt bear since the Clinton administration and its quite clear Hillary intends to keep doing it. Sooner or later they were and are going to do something about it.you realize the middle east didn't start with Bill Clinton, right? it started with your boy GHW Bush.or is the hurt bear russia? you realize that the cold war started in the 40s, right?First off GW Bush is not "my boy" but I always remember that Bill Clinton tried to gin up a war with Iraq and that Hillary couldn't wait to vote yes to invade Iraq. The encirclement of Russia didn't start 40 years ago.
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on July 30, 2016, 07:18:32 PMQuote from: treysolid on July 30, 2016, 07:15:43 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on July 30, 2016, 07:08:27 PMQuote from: ChiCat on July 30, 2016, 06:01:08 PMWe can avoid WW3 without rendering NATO toothless. We've been doing it for 60 years. On the other hand, allowing oppressive dictators to take over weaker countries while we try to be isolationists sounds exactly like what leads to world wars.Overthrowing or trying to overthrow relatively stable, predominantly secular governments in the Middle East sounds like another good way. But really, we've been encircling and poking the hurt bear since the Clinton administration and its quite clear Hillary intends to keep doing it. Sooner or later they were and are going to do something about it.you realize the middle east didn't start with Bill Clinton, right? it started with your boy GHW Bush.or is the hurt bear russia? you realize that the cold war started in the 40s, right?First off GW Bush is not "my boy" but I always remember that Bill Clinton tried to gin up a war with Iraq and that Hillary couldn't wait to vote yes to invade Iraq. The encirclement of Russia didn't start 40 years ago.selected memory noted.
Overthrowing or trying to overthrow relatively stable, predominantly secular governments in the Middle East sounds like another good way.
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on July 30, 2016, 07:15:43 PMOverthrowing or trying to overthrow relatively stable, predominantly secular governments in the Middle East sounds like another good way. The only reason Trump hasn't been involved in this is because he has absolutely no political experience. The Middle East is a cluster and that is just as much GOPers as Libs.
Who said anything about being afraid of Russia? :shrug
this is an all time low for you john doug
Well, they kind of already have, so . . .
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on July 31, 2016, 03:54:41 PMWell, they kind of already have, so . . .And russia is still a little pissant so my point is really solid.
