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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #50 on: April 04, 2014, 10:06:59 AM »
why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?

Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
I don't recall where you live, but yes, I am sure the state of KS public school system could absorb the 210 private schools, which serve 42,000 students, without any expansion.

That would be about 130 students per district. I think they would probably manage ok.
Do you have kids in school? Pretty sure they are already struggling with not being able to hire enough teachers.

I don't have kids at all.
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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2014, 11:40:46 AM »
why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?

Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
I don't recall where you live, but yes, I am sure the state of KS public school system could absorb the 210 private schools, which serve 42,000 students, without any expansion.

That would be about 130 students per district. I think they would probably manage ok.
Do you have kids in school? Pretty sure they are already struggling with not being able to hire enough teachers.

If only there were a work force of recently laid off private school teachers.  Never going to solve that I guess.  welp

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2014, 12:49:41 PM »
Sometimes I drive on the Turnpike. Can I get a credit for the time that I was not driving on the public roads?

NO, you benefitted from goods and services being delivered to you on public roads

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2014, 12:55:30 PM »
I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.

I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use. 

I don't have a problem with this.


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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2014, 01:09:35 PM »
I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.

I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use. 

I don't have a problem with this.

Public education provides an enormous benefit to everyone. It's a better benefit than trash and roads, anyway.

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2014, 01:14:18 PM »
What about people who home school their kids? Do they get a credit?

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2014, 01:14:57 PM »
I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.

I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use. 

I don't have a problem with this.


Public education provides an enormous benefit to everyone. It's a better benefit than trash and roads, anyway.


I understand that. The credit should expire upon graduation.

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2014, 01:16:28 PM »
What about people who home school their kids? Do they get a credit?

I say they should at least be eligible for a partial credit since no tuition is involved. 

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2014, 01:35:01 PM »
Sometimes I drive on the Turnpike. Can I get a credit for the time that I was not driving on the public roads?

NO, you benefitted from goods and services being delivered to you on public roads

Yeah, but the people who I am paying to provide those services already paid their taxes to cover their use of the roads.

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2014, 01:39:20 PM »
Private schools are a luxury and if someone wants them, they can pay out of pocket.  As has been mentioned, whether I have kids or not I pay into the school system as educated young people are a benefit to society.  Subsidizing private school allows parents to not pay for the net benefit of society while still extending that benefit to their children.

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2014, 01:43:20 PM »
Private schools are a luxury and if someone wants them, they can pay out of pocket.  As has been mentioned, whether I have kids or not I pay into the school system as educated young people are a benefit to society.  Subsidizing private school allows parents to not pay for the net benefit of society while still extending that benefit to their children.

well put, chicat

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2014, 03:00:51 PM »
I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.

I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use. 

I don't have a problem with this.

to your first, this is a meta argument from people who want our government to look like Somalia instead of the organs and instituions which built America into the greatest country ever on the face of the world

second, you'd have to be pretty damn foolish, damn near stupid to think the tax credits being offered are in line with the amount of money the individual pays to public education.  hint, its not a dollar in dollar out system.
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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2014, 05:40:09 PM »
why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?

Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
I don't recall where you live, but yes, I am sure the state of KS public school system could absorb the 210 private schools, which serve 42,000 students, without any expansion.

That would be about 130 students per district. I think they would probably manage ok.

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2014, 06:05:21 PM »
slightly OT but we should just get rid of public schools period. problem solved.

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2014, 06:17:23 PM »
get rid of public schools

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2014, 07:12:17 PM »
slightly OT but we should just get rid of public schools period. problem solved.

What problem is solved?

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2014, 08:02:06 PM »
slightly OT but we should just get rid of public schools period. problem solved.

What problem is solved?

you could like choose a school for your kids and not pay for anyone else's kids' education. So to answer your question...all problems are solved.

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2014, 09:13:52 PM »
I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.

I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use. 

I don't have a problem with this.

to your first, this is a meta argument from people who want our government to look like Somalia instead of the organs and instituions which built America into the greatest country ever on the face of the world

second, you'd have to be pretty damn foolish, damn near stupid to think the tax credits being offered are in line with the amount of money the individual pays to public education.  hint, its not a dollar in dollar out system.

Well I'm not sure how you arrived that I'm somehow pining for some  pro-Somali structure, or whatever.. I still believe in increased public education funding, and especially at the University level where real economic gain can be found.

You're right the proposal is too high, maybe a 500-700 dollar credit would be more reasonable..

I'm trying to find a win-win here for those who support public education (me), and those who choose to educate elsewhere.

If it doesn't exist how about an interest deduction for loans taken out on private prep school?

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2014, 09:16:14 PM »
Sometimes I drive on the Turnpike. Can I get a credit for the time that I was not driving on the public roads?

NO, you benefitted from goods and services being delivered to you on public roads

Yeah, but the people who I am paying to provide those services already paid their taxes to cover their use of the roads.

Well good luck just strictly driving the turnpike throughout your living existence.

Quit being dumb.

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2014, 11:27:58 PM »
slightly OT but we should just get rid of public schools period. problem solved.

What problem is solved?

you could like choose a school for your kids and not pay for anyone else's kids' education. So to answer your question...all problems are solved.

Well, you still haven't identified any problems that need solving.

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #70 on: April 05, 2014, 01:49:05 AM »
slightly OT but we should just get rid of public schools period. problem solved.

What problem is solved?

you could like choose a school for your kids and not pay for anyone else's kids' education. So to answer your question...all problems are solved.

Well, you still haven't identified any problems that need solving.

This would create a market where you'd see more schools that are okay with teaching kids Jesus rode dinosaurs.

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #71 on: April 05, 2014, 02:30:22 AM »
What's wrong with that??
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #72 on: April 05, 2014, 08:22:57 AM »
public parks are sooooooooooooo crowded, the government should give a park to just me and my friends

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #73 on: April 05, 2014, 08:29:58 AM »
What about people who home school their kids? Do they get a credit?

They get a deduction for bringing weirdos into our world.

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Re: Tax Credits for Private Schools
« Reply #74 on: April 05, 2014, 09:14:17 AM »
How could anyone possibly care whether a child's state allotment goes to one school over another. Public schools let out of district kids enroll everywhere for the very reason of grabbing that allotment. Why shouldn't private schools be able to do the same?

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