Author Topic: Malaysia Airlines (Read 122415 times)

steve dave · « **Reply #925 on:** March 28, 2015, 08:15:12 AM »

yeah, if there was some obvious and easy solution that would be nice but I don't think there is. at least not without large expenditures. and unfortunately cost is always going to be a factor to everyone.

slobber · « **Reply #926 on:** March 28, 2015, 09:52:56 AM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2015, 07:48:37 AM

If the control center could override planes they would become the ultimate target.

Die Hard 2: Die Harder(?)

wabash909 · « **Reply #927 on:** March 28, 2015, 10:00:32 AM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2015, 07:48:37 AM

If the control center could override planes they would become the ultimate target.

Militarize it. We have remotely piloted drone stikes originating every day from classified locations in the United States.

mocat · « **Reply #928 on:** March 28, 2015, 10:07:27 AM »

No thanks

mocat · « **Reply #929 on:** March 28, 2015, 10:07:51 AM »

Things are fine the way they are in the US.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #930 on:** March 28, 2015, 10:15:49 AM »

Good grief. Militarize every commercial flight? It is a wonder some of you muster the courage to leave your bedroom every day.

Brock Landers · « **Reply #931 on:** March 28, 2015, 10:30:33 AM »

***Warning, tinfoil hat alert***

The same technology used to override a plane's controls because of a sick/incapacitated/crazy pilot could also be hacked into and used for nefarious purposes.

***It is now safe to remove your tin foil hats***

This is a bad idea

wabash909 · « **Reply #932 on:** March 28, 2015, 10:58:42 AM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on March 28, 2015, 10:15:49 AM

Good grief. Militarize every commercial flight? It is a wonder some of you muster the courage to leave your bedroom every day.

Militarize an override system to thwart catastrophic terrorism acts in emergency situations.

I know, real tinfoil stuff here, folks.

But hey, if ain't broke don't fix it.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #933 on:** March 28, 2015, 11:21:14 AM »

Let's (triple? Quadruple?) the cost of every ticket because of a one off event that did not even defeat the procedures already in place in the US. yep, sounds well reasoned and proportional.

Don't forget to get an extra month's rations and extra fuel for your back up generator for your back up generator in case Armageddon comes. Can't be too careful.

wabash909 · « **Reply #934 on:** March 28, 2015, 11:35:24 AM »

Sorry for the insane conspiracy ideas, everybody. I have on my dumb and expensive hat today.

I mean, encrypted guidance technology like what is used in the 400 remotely piloted drone strikes in the past five years alone from the US is pretty wackadoodle stuff.

More than likely a 9-11 event will probably never happen again so why even bother.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #935 on:** March 28, 2015, 11:38:23 AM »

If there is anyone that knows about efficiency and low-cost solutions, it is military contractors.

Looks like we finally made our skies safe and affordable for all. Wrap this one up.

wabash909 · « **Reply #936 on:** March 28, 2015, 11:40:40 AM »

You're right. Commerical air safety is fine the way it is.

As long as stewardesses can barricade the cabin with a drink cart we're good!

Kat Kid · « **Reply #937 on:** March 28, 2015, 11:41:39 AM »

I have a new innovation, let's make all commercial airline travel so unaffordable that no one flies. PROBLEM SOLVED!

wabash909 · « **Reply #938 on:** March 28, 2015, 11:42:09 AM »

By the way, I just penned a letter to Elon Musk telling him how hair brained of an idea self driving cars are. What a total dumbass.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #939 on:** March 28, 2015, 11:45:19 AM »

How complicated could it be? Only 90,000 flights a day to be RC'd by some air traffic controllers.

michigancat · « **Reply #940 on:** March 28, 2015, 11:49:16 AM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on March 28, 2015, 11:45:19 AM

How complicated could it be? Only 90,000 flights a day to be RC'd by some air traffic controllers.

They would fly themselves, obviously.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #941 on:** March 28, 2015, 11:50:53 AM »

Maybe just have all the pilots work from home to RC those bad boys? Could probably get teenagers to do it and pay them half as much once we get a few kinks worked out.

wabash909 · « **Reply #942 on:** March 28, 2015, 11:53:22 AM »

I know, because some sort of remote guidance (like autopilot) that can be activated in the event of a terrorist act is the same as remotely piloting 90,000 commerical flights a day.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #943 on:** March 28, 2015, 11:56:31 AM »

Quote from: wabash909 on March 28, 2015, 11:53:22 AM

I know, because some sort of remote guidance (like autopilot) that can be activated in the event of a terrorist act is the same as remotely piloting 90,000 commerical flights a day.

Don't forget the secret override of the override in case the terrorists infiltrate the remote control. Then the double secret override of the override/override that only the most senior stewardess will have via a set of controls in the rear bathroom.

You cannot be too careful when it comes to air safety.

wetwillie · « **Reply #944 on:** March 28, 2015, 12:00:04 PM »

There arent remotely close to 90,000 commercial flights a day in the US.

wabash909 · « **Reply #945 on:** March 28, 2015, 12:01:59 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2015, 12:00:04 PM

There arent remotely close to 90,000 commercial flights a day in the US.

Sounds good, though.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #946 on:** March 28, 2015, 12:11:15 PM »

You are right. 30,000?

Trim · « **Reply #947 on:** March 28, 2015, 12:19:36 PM »

I don't get airplane terrorism. It kind of made sense when the goal was to hijack the plane to the terrorists' home and have a bunch of hostages, but not if the goal is to kill a lot of people at once.

But a PSA campaign to terrorists explaining how there's more efficient targets would be counterproductive to safety at large.

wetwillie · « **Reply #948 on:** March 28, 2015, 12:21:58 PM »

it isnt about killing the most people FWIW.

OB_Won · « **Reply #949 on:** March 28, 2015, 12:37:30 PM »

A locked out pilot has a memorized code to get back in the cockpit, but it takes a minute or so to override, thus giving pilot(s) inside time to barricade the door in case of terrorism. Bathrooms inside cockpit would be great, but purchasing or remodeling an entire fleet of airliners would skyrocket costs. USA must have two personnel inside cockpit at any time, but not all governments have same rules (Germany). This still doesn't prevent one pilot from overpowering another via deadly force.

Remote flying of planes is already being researched and investigated. However, what happens when a remote pilot goes off the reservation? Or the computer system gets hacked? Who has oversight/authority over foreign inbound/outbound flights?