The game began there.

[sonofdaxjones]

When ku started to exploit the whole Naismith thing (and it was cool that Dr. Naismith the PE teacher who apparently wasn't really all that impressed with basketball in relative terms, was at ku) a lot of eyebrows went up with all the bullet points that were being printed in the Media Guides and glossy brochures over in Lawrence.

[kso_FAN]

Oh, one last thing, Naismith considered Basketball a "hobby sport"   

The invention of basketball was not an accident. It was developed to meet a need. Those boys simply would not play 'Drop the Handkerchief.'

[Trogdor]

The invention of basketball was not an accident. It was developed to meet a need. Those boys simply would not play 'Drop the Handkerchief.'

Why not?

[Brock Landers]

Oh, one last thing, Naismith considered Basketball a "hobby sport"   

The invention of basketball was not an accident. It was developed to meet a need. Those boys simply would not play 'Drop the Handkerchief.'

So basketball isn't even a hobby sport.  It was developed as some sort of punishment.

[MakeItRain]

Football started in Manhattan ks

So did the civil rights movement cuz king sr

  black history month is for you guys to learn about us too

[MakeItRain]

Naismith developed and expanded the game at Kansas.

Not only did the YMCA have a huge part in spreading basketball around the world, but WWI and the North American soldiers that fought in it are also frequently given credit for spreading the game throughout the world.

Phog also created the NCAA tournament.

The tournament, organized by the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), was created during 1939 by the National Association of Basketball Coaches, and was the idea of Ohio State University coach Harold Olsen

The sport of basketball has origins in Lawrence, KS.

The first official college basketball game was played on January 18, 1896 between the University of Iowa and the University of Chicago.  The final score was 15-12, with the visiting Chicago team the victors.

On February 9, 1895, the first intercollegiate 5-on-5 game was played at Hamline University between Hamline and the School of Agriculture, which was affiliated with the University of Minnesota.[9][10] The School of Agriculture won in a 9–3 game.

Lots of interesting stuff out there. All trolling aside, the fact that Naismith/Fogg were there is really cool, but honestly the whole "it was founded here" thing is way overblown. It was both founded and spread by the YMCA more than any other entity. Also Naismith telling Phog you can't coach basketball is pretty great.

[WavetheWheat]

This guy clearly played at KU, right?

[BIG APPLE CAT]

how many dr peppers do our guys the ksu wild wildcats have in drop the handkerchief? (serious question)

[OregonSmock]

No one is denying that the YMCA was integral in developing and expanding the game of basketball.  So was KU.  The first stage of the sport of basketball can be traced back to KU.  The guy who invented the sport coached at KU and created our basketball program.  The guy who made basketball an official olympic sport and created the NACB coached at KU. 

What more do you want?


 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I don't know if this is luked or not, but there is not one mention of Kansas in the entire wikipedia entry for "the history of basketball".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_basketball

I think I'll check Snopes next.

[OregonSmock]

I don't know if this is luked or not, but there is not one mention of Kansas in the entire wikipedia entry for "the history of basketball".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_basketball

I think I'll check Snopes next.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball

While the YMCA was responsible for initially developing and spreading the game, within a decade it discouraged the new sport, as rough play and rowdy crowds began to detract from the YMCA's primary mission. However, other amateur sports clubs, colleges, and professional clubs quickly filled the void. In the years before World War I, the Amateur Athletic Union and the Intercollegiate Athletic Association of the United States (forerunner of the NCAA) vied for control over the rules for the game. The first pro league, the National Basketball League, was formed in 1898 to protect players from exploitation and to promote a less rough game. This league only lasted five years.

Dr. James Naismith was instrumental in establishing college basketball. His colleague C.O. Beamis fielded the first college basketball team just a year after the Springfield YMCA game at the suburban Pittsburgh Geneva College.[8] Naismith himself later coached at the University of Kansas for six years, before handing the reins to renowned coach Forrest "Phog" Allen. Naismith's disciple Amos Alonzo Stagg brought basketball to the University of Chicago, while Adolph Rupp, a student of Naismith's at Kansas, enjoyed great success as coach at the University of Kentucky.

[ydarg2012]

I don't know if this is luked or not, but there is not one mention of Kansas in the entire wikipedia entry for "the history of basketball".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_basketball

I think I'll check Snopes next.

If Wikipedia confirms KU had nothing to do with it. . .then 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I don't know if this is luked or not, but there is not one mention of Kansas in the entire wikipedia entry for "the history of basketball".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_basketball

I think I'll check Snopes next.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball

While the YMCA was responsible for initially developing and spreading the game, within a decade it discouraged the new sport, as rough play and rowdy crowds began to detract from the YMCA's primary mission. However, other amateur sports clubs, colleges, and professional clubs quickly filled the void. In the years before World War I, the Amateur Athletic Union and the Intercollegiate Athletic Association of the United States (forerunner of the NCAA) vied for control over the rules for the game. The first pro league, the National Basketball League, was formed in 1898 to protect players from exploitation and to promote a less rough game. This league only lasted five years.

Dr. James Naismith was instrumental in establishing college basketball. His colleague C.O. Beamis fielded the first college basketball team just a year after the Springfield YMCA game at the suburban Pittsburgh .[8] Naismith himself later coached at the University of Kansas for six years, before handing the reins to renowned coach Forrest "Phog" Allen. Naismith's disciple Amos Alonzo Stagg brought basketball to the University of Chicago, while Adolph Rupp, a student of Naismith's at Kansas, enjoyed great success as coach at the University of Kentucky.

So the birthplace of college basketball is Geneva College in Pittsburgh. I wouldn't spread that around Lawrence.

[Tobias]

[stobblebobby]

No one is denying that the YMCA was integral in developing and expanding the game of basketball.  So was KU.  The first stage of the sport of basketball can be traced back to KU.  The guy who invented the sport coached at KU and created our basketball program.  The guy who made basketball an official olympic sport and created the NACB coached at KU. 

What more do you want?


 

Not so much more but less. Beems we're not discrediting KU's place in basketball history. It is definitely significant. The Naismith part of that claim though, is just hilarious and overblown.

When it came to the KU basketball team, Naismith just didn’t have interest. He didn’t attend the Jayhawks’ practices, and his attention during the 115 games he coached was diverted by the fact that he served as the referee in most of those games. A common quote attributed to him is, “You can’t coach basketball, you just play it.”

http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/james-naismith-kansas-worst-basketball-coach-ever

[Cire]

"cradle of super duper racist basketball coaches"

[pissclams]

When it came to the KU basketball team, Naismith just didn’t have interest. He didn’t attend the Jayhawks’ practices, and his attention during the 115 games he coached was diverted by the fact that he served as the referee in most of those games. A common quote attributed to him is, “You can’t coach basketball, you just play it.”

http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/james-naismith-kansas-worst-basketball-coach-ever

well that would explain why he sucked so badly as a coach

[Gooch]

Adolph Rupp coached at my high school. You don't see me claiming all things Kentucky basketball.

[Phil Titola]

Aggieville created Fake Pattys Day...and that my friends is a FACT like the sun and earth rotational movement. 


Its so weird he bold blued one paragraph and completed skipped over the 1st one where it actually explains where it started. 

[Trogdor]

Im bout to straight pwn some bitches with some knowledge

[Cire]

college basketball began in springburgrence, USA

[scottwildcat]

No one is denying that the YMCA was integral in developing and expanding the game of basketball.  So was KU.  The first stage of the sport of basketball can be traced back to KU.  The guy who invented the sport coached at KU and created our basketball program.  The guy who made basketball an official olympic sport and created the NACB coached at KU. 

What more do you want?


 

Not so much more but less. Beems we're not discrediting KU's place in basketball history. It is definitely significant. The Naismith part of that claim though, is just hilarious and overblown.

When it came to the KU basketball team, Naismith just didn’t have interest. He didn’t attend the Jayhawks’ practices, and his attention during the 115 games he coached was diverted by the fact that he served as the referee in most of those games. A common quote attributed to him is, “You can’t coach basketball, you just play it.”

http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/james-naismith-kansas-worst-basketball-coach-ever

Game.Set.Match.

[Trogdor]

No one is denying that the YMCA was integral in developing and expanding the game of basketball.  So was KU.  The first stage of the sport of basketball can be traced back to KU.  The guy who invented the sport coached at KU and created our basketball program.  The guy who made basketball an official olympic sport and created the NACB coached at KU. 

What more do you want?


 

Not so much more but less. Beems we're not discrediting KU's place in basketball history. It is definitely significant. The Naismith part of that claim though, is just hilarious and overblown.

When it came to the KU basketball team, Naismith just didn’t have interest. He didn’t attend the Jayhawks’ practices, and his attention during the 115 games he coached was diverted by the fact that he served as the referee in most of those games. A common quote attributed to him is, “You can’t coach basketball, you just play it.”

http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/james-naismith-kansas-worst-basketball-coach-ever

Game.Set.Match.

[deputy dawg]

Your efforts at rational discussion about the origin of basketball is futile.  When KU, institutionally, spreads information or misinformation, there is an autonomic response among their fan base for acceptance and repetition.  KU is spending, what, $19 million for a building to house the rules of basketball (drafted in Springfield, Illinois) to showcase a game that KU pretends was invented at KU.  They are going to say they that the University of Kansas is the cradle of basketball, whether it's true or not.  Beems, as entertaining and occasionally as independent thinker that he is, is part of the fan base that accepts what KU says as gospel.  You are going to encounter A LOT of people in the arc of Kansas between Topeka and Overland Park that will not accept any contention that basketball was invented anywhere other than KU. 

[Trim]

If the YMCA birf'd basketball, fair to say that Strut 'N Cut was integral in the development too.