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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2014, 12:56:46 PM »
Agree with sys. The only way Foster even stands a shot at the NBA is if he plays PG. He'd have to practice all offseason to even make that a remote possibility. But you still have Nigel and Jevon coming in, so only half his time would be spent there.

I've heard oscar isn't planning on playing Foster and Edwards at the same time, though. He likes the idea of always having one of them in the game at SG, so the other team can't take a break at any point during the game. So I doubt we see Foster at PG.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2014, 12:59:16 PM »

Honestly, its almost reached the point where its so bad it has to be an anomoly. I mean, he can't be a 31% FT shooter. Or 26% on 2s. Its ridiculous.


Well, do we have his highschool stats? 

The idea of JT is nice.  But, seeing as how close most of our Conference road games have been, we simply can't afford to have him on the floor in the last 5-10 mins of the game.  Yes, he penetrates, initiates contact, draws fouls.  He's a good passer.  But, F me, "blowing by" the defender doesn't mean crap when he's not converting 3/4 of his layups and he's missing 7/10 freethrows. 

Maybe it's an anomoly, but I can't remember the last time I saw a player hit backboard wide left on a FT.  I mean, that's f'n unconscionable.  The little cat halftime performers shoot better than that and most of them are 8 years old.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2014, 01:00:23 PM »
i don't think it'd help the team to play him at pg, but it'd be great for foster.

I think it would help if he was taking minutes away from Nigel or Jevon, but probably wouldn't help much if he was taking minutes away from an average PG.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #53 on: February 20, 2014, 01:33:05 PM »
I think it would help if he was taking minutes away from Nigel or Jevon, but probably wouldn't help much if he was taking minutes away from an average PG.

who are you making room for at the 2, 3 or small 4?  it's not a question of replacing johnson/thomas minutes with foster minutes, foster is going to be on the court either way.
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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2014, 01:35:16 PM »
I think it would help if he was taking minutes away from Nigel or Jevon, but probably wouldn't help much if he was taking minutes away from an average PG.

who are you making room for at the 2, 3 or small 4?  it's not a question of replacing johnson/thomas minutes with foster minutes, foster is going to be on the court either way.

Yeah, he's already playing 72% of the minutes as a FR. Also makes the Edwards comment above from Stevesie interesting, if Edwards is any good they will have to be on the floor at the same time.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2014, 01:38:03 PM »
I think it would help if he was taking minutes away from Nigel or Jevon, but probably wouldn't help much if he was taking minutes away from an average PG.

who are you making room for at the 2, 3 or small 4?  it's not a question of replacing johnson/thomas minutes with foster minutes, foster is going to be on the court either way.

Edwards or the other freshman (assuming they're decent). And I'd like either Nigel or Jevon to stick around, just not both.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2014, 01:39:24 PM »
Edwards probably isn't all that good.

I would think that Edwards will be about like this year omari.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2014, 01:43:07 PM »
Edwards probably isn't all that good.

I would think that Edwards will be about like this year omari.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2014, 01:50:26 PM »
Edwards or the other freshman (assuming they're decent). And I'd like either Nigel or Jevon to stick around, just not both.

what would make you think edwards/freshman (the thin shooter freshman, you mean?) would be better than johnson/thomas?
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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2014, 02:01:57 PM »
Edwards or the other freshman (assuming they're decent). And I'd like either Nigel or Jevon to stick around, just not both.

what would make you think edwards/freshman (the thin shooter freshman, you mean?) would be better than johnson/thomas?

Edwards has shown he isn't the worst shooter of all time, for one.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #60 on: February 20, 2014, 02:03:55 PM »
Edwards has shown he isn't the worst shooter of all time, for one.

not so far from it.
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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #61 on: February 20, 2014, 02:05:50 PM »
Edwards or the other freshman (assuming they're decent). And I'd like either Nigel or Jevon to stick around, just not both.

what would make you think edwards/freshman (the thin shooter freshman, you mean?) would be better than johnson/thomas?

Edwards has shown he isn't the worst shooter of all time, for one.
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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2014, 02:13:10 PM »
Agree with sys. The only way Foster even stands a shot at the NBA is if he plays PG. He'd have to practice all offseason to even make that a remote possibility. But you still have Nigel and Jevon coming in, so only half his time would be spent there.

I've heard oscar isn't planning on playing Foster and Edwards at the same time, though. He likes the idea of always having one of them in the game at SG, so the other team can't take a break at any point during the game. So I doubt we see Foster at PG.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2014, 02:16:06 PM »
Edwards has shown he isn't the worst shooter of all time, for one.

not so far from it.

Edwards' EFG has been 44.8 and 47.1.  Jevon is currently at 26.2.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2014, 02:17:06 PM »
I think it would help if he was taking minutes away from Nigel or Jevon, but probably wouldn't help much if he was taking minutes away from an average PG.

who are you making room for at the 2, 3 or small 4?  it's not a question of replacing johnson/thomas minutes with foster minutes, foster is going to be on the court either way.
 



Yeah, he's already playing 72% of the minutes as a FR. Also makes the Edwards comment above from Stevesie interesting, if Edwards is any good they will have to be on the floor at the same time.

I think Foster and Edwards will be on the court together and could be on the court together a lot.   Its not that hard to have them both start, and have rotation plan where 1 is always on the court.   

I could see Foster playing a little bit at PG next year.  Especially if Jevon/Nigel show next year, that them combining for 40 minutes isn't the best thing for the team .   Tay was the backup PG last year when Angel rested.... and Tay was not a PG.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2014, 02:18:13 PM »
Edwards' EFG has been 44.8 and 47.1.  Jevon is currently at 26.2.

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so play johnson.
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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2014, 02:25:58 PM »
Edwards' EFG has been 44.8 and 47.1.  Jevon is currently at 26.2.

:sdeek:

so play johnson.

he can't play 40 minutes a game. At least I pray to God in Heaven that he can't.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2014, 02:30:56 PM »
Could see Edwards be the sixth man but get starting minutes. Westicles or Edwards will get the bulk of the minutes at the 3. I think it depends on Westicles's development.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2014, 02:37:36 PM »
Edwards' EFG has been 44.8 and 47.1.  Jevon is currently at 26.2.

:sdeek:

so play johnson.

he can't play 40 minutes a game. At least I pray to God in Heaven that he can't.

looks like i see a couple of ksu hoops fans having fun.  a lot of fun.  go cats.

also, JT will come around.  next season.


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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2014, 02:37:51 PM »
Edwards probably isn't all that good.

I would think that Edwards will be about like this year omari.




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Edwards got those numbers using double the possessions.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2014, 02:38:53 PM »
Edwards has shown he isn't the worst shooter of all time, for one.

not so far from it.

Edwards' EFG has been 44.8 and 47.1.  Jevon is currently at 26.2.

:sdeek:

DeAndre Kane his soph/jr years at Marshall =  47.3% 2pt, 24.9% 3pt, and only 56.5% FT
Kane this year at Isu = 51.6% 2pt, 34.3% 3pt

Kane seems to have benefitted from being in a good offensive system. Why can't Edwards do better in a better offensive system

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2014, 02:41:32 PM »
Edwards got those numbers using double the possessions.

edwards has shot enough threes that it's pretty easy to conclude he's not a good shooter.  with johnson, and especially thomas, the data are less numerous, and thus less convincing.
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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2014, 03:01:01 PM »
Edwards got those numbers using double the possessions.

edwards has shot enough threes that it's pretty easy to conclude he's not a good shooter.  with johnson, and especially thomas, the data are less numerous, and thus less convincing.

how many attempts are required to make a definite conclusion?

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2014, 03:27:48 PM »
how many attempts are required to make a definite conclusion?

whatever the number is, it's more than 11.
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