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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2014, 08:15:20 AM »
The funniest part of last night was after JT completely missed the front end of two free throws and the crowd was silent.  Then he hit the second one and the crowd and bench erupted like it was a game winning shot.  I think JT is aware that he needs to improve and has his team supporting his progress.

Aside from Marcus' breakaway dunk this was probably the loudest moment of the game. Standing O from several west siders.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2014, 08:16:08 AM »
well I know everyone loves him but he is just a historically bad shooter. As in like we've never had a player shoot this bad ever.

Honestly, its almost reached the point where its so bad it has to be an anomoly. I mean, he can't be a 31% FT shooter. Or 26% on 2s. Its ridiculous.

The only real problem I had last night was when he penetrated along the right side of the lane and got ripped from behind, that's a high school level mistake that he just can't make. He gets caught in situations like that once in a while.

There is no doubt that his speed/quickness can and does impact games, its just all that he brings right now.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2014, 08:20:57 AM »
well I know everyone loves him but he is just a historically bad shooter. As in like we've never had a player shoot this bad ever.

Honestly, its almost reached the point where its so bad it has to be an anomoly. I mean, he can't be a 31% FT shooter. Or 26% on 2s. Its ridiculous.

The only real problem I had last night was when he penetrated along the right side of the lane and got ripped from behind, that's a high school level mistake that he just can't make. He gets caught in situations like that once in a while.

There is no doubt that his speed/quickness can and does impact games, its just all that he brings right now.

When you get a moment. . .I'd be curious how his statistics compare nationally and historically.  I remember hearing that JT had a lot of games in high school where he was scoring upwards of 20 points.  I'm confident his shooting will improve.  I'm just curious if he comes out firing next year, will it be a historic improvement?  Put that on a t-shirt.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2014, 08:51:21 AM »
well I know everyone loves him but he is just a historically bad shooter. As in like we've never had a player shoot this bad ever.

Honestly, its almost reached the point where its so bad it has to be an anomoly. I mean, he can't be a 31% FT shooter. Or 26% on 2s. Its ridiculous.

The only real problem I had last night was when he penetrated along the right side of the lane and got ripped from behind, that's a high school level mistake that he just can't make. He gets caught in situations like that once in a while.

There is no doubt that his speed/quickness can and does impact games, its just all that he brings right now.

When you get a moment. . .I'd be curious how his statistics compare nationally and historically.  I remember hearing that JT had a lot of games in high school where he was scoring upwards of 20 points.  I'm confident his shooting will improve.  I'm just curious if he comes out firing next year, will it be a historic improvement?  Put that on a t-shirt.

I had a moment and he is currently K-State's worst shooter in the last 11 years (among those who played enough to make it to kenpom's stats).

Still, I don't think he's shot nearly enough to rule out this season's shooting as an anomaly. Remember Jamar's free throw shooting early in his career?

What's concerning is our coaches and/or Jevon probably DON'T think it's an anomaly as evidenced by Jevon forcing passes the last couple of games when he should have taken the wide open layup himself. He should be encouraged to shoot, at least at the rim, or he shouldn't be playing at all.


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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2014, 08:55:20 AM »
I would much rather him shoot any shot than get fouled and shoot FTs. His FT shooting is one of the most crazy things I've ever seen in basketball.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2014, 08:55:43 AM »
I love JT and he had a good game today. GTFOOH h8ers

He's a stud.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2014, 09:04:13 AM »
I think it's probably mostly mental. He just needs to keep shooting and to stop thinking that he shouldn't be taking shots, especially layups.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2014, 09:17:39 AM »
I love JT and he had a good game today. GTFOOH h8ers

He's a stud.

two of my favorite posters are spot on here.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2014, 10:14:02 AM »
Offensively, the tried and always true eye test says:  Jevon Thomas-Woof

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2014, 10:27:45 AM »
We've been really spoiled with point guards the last six years.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2014, 10:29:38 AM »
does JT's form look good?  I've never paid attention.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2014, 11:03:36 AM »
Jevon  :love:
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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2014, 11:05:13 AM »
i like jevon, but i am glad that his shooting clownshow may prevent nigel from transferring

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2014, 11:13:47 AM »
cannot wait to bump all this anti-JT threads in two years as Jevon is just clown suiting fools on the bball court.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2014, 11:17:09 AM »
i like jevon, but i am glad that his shooting clownshow may prevent nigel from transferring

I still don't get this. I'd rather have either Nigel or Jevon transfer and see how thos new SG does and let Foster have some time running the point.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2014, 11:19:59 AM »
i like jevon, but i am glad that his shooting clownshow may prevent nigel from transferring

I still don't get this. I'd rather have either Nigel or Jevon transfer and see how thos new SG does and let Foster have some time running the point.

my lbbiq feelings mostly have to do with nigel's hair

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2014, 11:23:25 AM »
i like jevon, but i am glad that his shooting clownshow may prevent nigel from transferring

I still don't get this. I'd rather have either Nigel or Jevon transfer and see how thos new SG does and let Foster have some time running the point.

What has MF shown that makes you think he can play PG? His ball handling needs to improve dramatically.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2014, 11:26:27 AM »
cannot wait to bump all this anti-JT threads in two years as Jevon is just clown suiting fools on the bball court.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2014, 11:26:37 AM »
i like jevon, but i am glad that his shooting clownshow may prevent nigel from transferring

I still don't get this. I'd rather have either Nigel or Jevon transfer and see how thos new SG does and let Foster have some time running the point.

What has MF shown that makes you think he can play PG? His ball handling needs to improve dramatically.

His TO Rate's better than both Jevon and Nigel (while admittedly dribbling across half court less), and he kind of plays as a "combo". I'm far more concerned with getting another offensive threat on the floor than Foster splitting time @PG. Are you like worried about his ability to dribble while calling out a play or something?

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #44 on: February 20, 2014, 11:43:44 AM »
i like jevon, but i am glad that his shooting clownshow may prevent nigel from transferring

I still don't get this. I'd rather have either Nigel or Jevon transfer and see how thos new SG does and let Foster have some time running the point.

What has MF shown that makes you think he can play PG? His ball handling needs to improve dramatically.

His TO Rate's better than both Jevon and Nigel (while admittedly dribbling across half court less), and he kind of plays as a "combo". I'm far more concerned with getting another offensive threat on the floor than Foster splitting time @PG. Are you like worried about his ability to dribble while calling out a play or something?

A SG's turnover rate is lower than a PG's?

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2014, 11:59:57 AM »

His TO Rate's better than both Jevon and Nigel (while admittedly dribbling across half court less), and he kind of plays as a "combo". I'm far more concerned with getting another offensive threat on the floor than Foster splitting time @PG. Are you like worried about his ability to dribble while calling out a play or something?

He is a "combo guard" who should never play more than 5 mpg at PG because his strength is playing off of the ball.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2014, 12:06:00 PM »

His TO Rate's better than both Jevon and Nigel (while admittedly dribbling across half court less), and he kind of plays as a "combo". I'm far more concerned with getting another offensive threat on the floor than Foster splitting time @PG. Are you like worried about his ability to dribble while calling out a play or something?

He is a "combo guard" who should never play more than 5 mpg at PG because his strength is playing off of the ball.

Well that's dumb and limiting. He's A LOT like Pullen, and I think he could be used in a really similar way. I'd say he has a lot of strengths, one of which is pick and roll: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1938110-meet-kansas-states-marcus-foster-ncaa-basketballs-most-underrated-freshman

 I mean it would be great if Jevon wasn't the worst shooter in KSU history, but for now I'd rather give Marcus 15 minutes at PG, 15 at SG than have the worst shooter in KSU history on the floor.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2014, 12:13:03 PM »
Its amusing that this comment isn't hyperbolic at all.

Jevon wasn't the worst shooter in KSU history,

Foster as PG is interesting, I wonder if oscar is considering it. oscar does seem like a "true PG" type of guy.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2014, 12:15:01 PM »
Its amusing that this comment isn't hyperbolic at all.

Jevon wasn't the worst shooter in KSU history,

Foster as PG is interesting, I wonder if oscar is considering it. oscar does seem like a "true PG" type of guy.

I'll admit I didn't go past 2003, but figured I was close enough.

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Re: Why is Jevon playing?
« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2014, 12:38:22 PM »
i don't think it'd help the team to play him at pg, but it'd be great for foster.
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