SYS's stance 2/7/14

[Lefty]

SYS, I trust your stance on the game of college basketball and I'd like to hear your opinion on a couple of items:
-the shape of the Big 12 compared to other leagues
-the 13-14 KSU squad and key player evaluations
-who do you enjoy or dislike player wise in the big 12?

[Spracne]

You can almost hear the shuffling of voluminous dossiers...

[steve dave]

what a stupid thread

[Lefty]

trying to generate some basketball talk. worded it badly. i miss the old sys and often wonder why he became jaded towards ksu.

[MakeItRain]

[deputy dawg]

 

[kso_FAN]

sys has posted in numerous threads and many times about these very questions.

I don't get the "sys is jaded toward ksu" thing, nor do I think there was an "old sys".

[Lefty]

sys has posted in numerous threads and many times about these very questions.

I don't get the "sys is jaded toward ksu" thing, nor do I think there was an "old sys".

going off memory it seemed when the jamar/curry/frank incident happened sys lost his love for KSU and then proclaimed that ISU was his new team. I probably have that wrong and perhaps I'm looking for incite into sys's opinion of the new ksu regime.

[sys]

i haven't watched as much college basketball this year as a i did in most past years, which is a big part of why i haven't posted as much on college basketball.  i've only seen a few non big 12 games, and haven't seen as many big 12 and kstate games as i usually do.

i've posted what thoughts i do have here and there, but i'm sure it's been easy to miss them.  summarized:

i have no real thoughts on non big 12 teams and/or how kstate compares to other teams (other than, by now, their kenpom rating is probably fairly accurate - discounting however much you think is appropriate for opponent ft% and opponent 3fg%).  i think the big 12 is a little overrated by the rpi, and all of the big 12 will probably benefit from that at selection time.  i think the combo of spradling & southie form a surprisingly useful pg between the two of them.  i think gippy is great, and i feel stupid for thinking the team would suffer from only having one good post when osu demonstrated all last year that one good post is usually enough.  i think thomas is very fast, i think njohnson is a very good on ball defender (for a 150 lb freshman).  i used to hate the other johnson, but now i more feel sorry for him and hope he transfers to a nice university somewhere quiet.  i think foster is a fantastic shooter and is also better at basically everything else than i thought he'd be (but is still a pretty poor defender and probably will never be much better than big 12 average).  i think embiid is an amazing player and i love watching him.

i may have more thoughts, but i can't recall them all at the moment.  thanks for asking.

[Lefty]

i haven't watched as much college basketball this year as a i did in most past years, which is a big part of why i haven't posted as much on college basketball. i've only seen a few non big 12 games, and haven't seen as many big 12 and kstate games as i usually do.
i've posted what thoughts i do have here and there, but i'm sure it's been easy to miss them.  summarized:

i have no real thoughts on non big 12 teams and/or how kstate compares to other teams (other than, by now, their kenpom rating is probably fairly accurate - discounting however much you think is appropriate for opponent ft% and opponent 3fg%).  i think the big 12 is a little overrated by the rpi, and all of the big 12 will probably benefit from that at selection time.  i think the combo of spradling & southie form a surprisingly useful pg between the two of them.  i think gippy is great, and i feel stupid for thinking the team would suffer from only having one good post when osu demonstrated all last year that one good post is usually enough.  i think thomas is very fast, i think njohnson is a very good on ball defender (for a 150 lb freshman).  i used to hate the other johnson, but now i more feel sorry for him and hope he transfers to a nice university somewhere quiet.  i think foster is a fantastic shooter and is also better at basically everything else than i thought he'd be (but is still a pretty poor defender and probably will never be much better than big 12 average).  i think embiid is an amazing player and i love watching him.

i may have more thoughts, but i can't recall them all at the moment.  thanks for asking.

how do you not watch every second of at least a KSU game? job/life permitting of course. i can't miss a second, even if it's via a dvr recording at midnight. there is no way i could simply look at advanced stats and develop a keen sense of a team's play. major kudos to those who can do that.

you didn't mention Westicles and evaluation of his play.

I agree that the big 12 is a bit overrated by RPI and glad it should benefit when selection time comes.

[sys]

how do you not watch every second of at least a KSU game? job/life permitting of course. i can't miss a second, even if it's via a dvr recording at midnight. there is no way i could simply look at advanced stats and develop a keen sense of a team's play. major kudos to those who can do that.

you didn't mention Westicles and evaluation of his play.

I agree that the big 12 is a bit overrated by RPI and glad it should benefit when selection time comes.

i can't develop a keen sense of a team's play from advanced stats either.  they just provide a nice overview, and some objectivity.  for a variety of reasons, i just haven't been as interested in kstate bball this year as in most past years.  my interest has picked up in the last couple of weeks though.  i'm very much looking forward to the next couple of games.

i have a particular bias towards players like iwu.  tall, very active perimeter players that can't shoot.  so i'm predisposed to like him, and i do.  i'm not sure how much he helps the team.  it's great that he's all over the place, but not having a shooter at the three is a handicap.  if he could bulk up just a little and defend the post so you play him as your fourth small, i think that might be the most valuable way to use him in the future.  i'll be interested to see if they use two posts next year, with gippy and the big juco, or continue with four smalls.

[michigancat]

hopefully they continue with 4 smalls. It's easily my favorite strategic move oscar has done since he's been here.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

hopefully they continue with 4 smalls. It's easily my favorite strategic move oscar has done since he's been here.

Hopefully, Foster / Westicles continue to find each other for jaw-dropping alley-oop jams.

This is the lone metric by which I will judge the success or failure of this season.

 

[kso_FAN]

hopefully they continue with 4 smalls. It's easily my favorite strategic move oscar has done since he's been here.

Yes, this was a fantastic move and one that helps us as long as he finds the right players. Its an essential part of #brucketball at this point.

[Lefty]

it could be fair to say this next stretch of ball could define oscar's coaching ability. this stretch could squelch the comparisons to frank and finally make provers out of the #BID crowd. that's what i'm most interested in seeing. we saw frank have the ability to continually develop a squad and get better over the year as opposed to regress.

granted this year features more freshman who have hit a wall as opposed to dillardsgate or being forced to sit a game or two or transfer.

i think this stretch and specifically speaking, the Texas and KU games will define this season.

[michigancat]

it could be fair to say this next stretch of ball could define oscar's coaching ability.

No, that would not be fair, at all.

[Lefty]

it could be fair to say this next stretch of ball could define oscar's coaching ability.

No, that would not be fair, at all.

his actual coaching ability will be on full display to beat Texas, to compete against Kansas and to beat @Baylor and @OU.

[Spracne]

it could be fair to say this next stretch of ball could define oscar's coaching ability.

No, that would not be fair, at all.

his actual coaching ability will be on full display to beat Texas, to compete against Kansas and to beat @Baylor and @OU.

I think 2-2 is about as good as you can hope for those games.  I didn't factor in moral victories, tho.

[michigancat]

it could be fair to say this next stretch of ball could define oscar's coaching ability.

No, that would not be fair, at all.

his actual coaching ability will be on full display to beat Texas, to compete against Kansas and to beat @Baylor and @OU.

No, it wouldn't. Unless you are defining "coaching ability" to exclude the most important part of his job (recruiting). It also wouldn't necessarily tell us anything about his "in-game coaching ability" - there's plenty of data in his prior 574 games that can tell us all we need to know about that.

[Lefty]

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No, it wouldn't. Unless you are defining "coaching ability" to exclude the most important part of his job (recruiting). It also wouldn't necessarily tell us anything about his "in-game coaching ability" - there's plenty of data in his prior 574 games that can tell us all we need to know about that.
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yes i was strictly talking about his actual in game coaching ability and more importantly his mid conference adjustments. and his "most important job recruiting" like you said, seems to be doing pretty well so far; but that's another argument.

you also mentioned there's lots of data in his 574 prior games and i couldn't tell if that was a knock on him or not, because that data suggests he's a helluva game coach. you may have been referring to his recent collapse at illinois and that's what i'm alluding to. these next few games will determine if oscar can shake the illinois collapse or if oscar has regained his quality coaching abilities (in game).

[MakeItRain]

hopefully they continue with 4 smalls. It's easily my favorite strategic move oscar has done since he's been here.

Yes, this was a fantastic move and one that helps us as long as he finds the right players. Its an essential part of #brucketball at this point.

Even with the addition of two bigs next year we still won't have the depth of playing 3 out 2 in.

[star seed 7]

i want sys' stance to be a weekly thursday and/or friday thread.

[ChiComCat]

I don't care what the 4 games are, it is probably not fair to judge a coach with a decade of experience over a specific 4 game span

[michigancat]

hopefully they continue with 4 smalls. It's easily my favorite strategic move oscar has done since he's been here.

Yes, this was a fantastic move and one that helps us as long as he finds the right players. Its an essential part of #brucketball at this point.

Even with the addition of two bigs next year we still won't have the depth of playing 3 out 2 in.

There would definitely be enough depth to do it some of the time.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Great thread.

I tried something similar a couple months back but the asshat mods moved it to the pit because they are chickenshit nazis