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Re: Question for bball historians: Why did Hartman stink after 1981-82???
« Reply #75 on: January 24, 2014, 11:20:48 PM »
I didn't know that nicname, but now I do. That's pretty cool.

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Re: Question for bball historians: Why did Hartman stink after 1981-82???
« Reply #76 on: January 24, 2014, 11:42:14 PM »
Man, that game in Maui. Cats led by 19 in the 2nd half, by 12 with 5 minutes left.

Poor Asbury.

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Re: Question for bball historians: Why did Hartman stink after 1981-82???
« Reply #77 on: January 25, 2014, 08:55:58 AM »
Did you know?

K-State played a nearly annual series with Indiana between 1947 and 1970. I guess Branch McCracken and Jack G/ Tex W. were buds, Cotton F. too. I wonder why they stopped in 1971.  Maybe Bob Knight and Jack H. weren't buds. They did start playing again in 1980, but K-State couldn't beat them.  Indiana was really good most of that time, but KSU starting to be crappy after 82 probably had more to do with that. 

Pretty cool "rivalry" that they had going for awhile.

Scores from the Indiana Media Guide, so an L is a K-State win.

12/14/36 W 60-33 Bloomington

12/15/47 L 53-61 Manhattan

12/16/48 W 56-36 Bloomington

12/16/51 W 58-52 Manhattan

12/22/52 W 80-75 Bloomington

12/13/52 L 80-82 Manhattan

12/7/53 W 92-66 Bloomington

12/21/54 L 74-91 Manhattan

12/10/55 W 96-72 Bloomington

12/15/56 L 77-84 Manhattan

12/7/57 L 61-66 Bloomington

12/6/58 L 79-82 Manhattan

12/14/59 W 67-58 Bloomington

12/5/60 W 98-80 Manhattan

12/9/61 L 78-88 Bloomington

12/21/62 L 72-88 Manhattan

12/9/63 L 84-93 Bloomington

12/5/64 W 74-70 Manhattan

12/13/65 L 76-103 Bloomington

12/13/66 L 69-82 Manhattan

12/11/67 W 89-83 Bloomington

12/9/68 L 83-87* Manhattan

12/8/69 W 102-95 Bloomington

12/5/70 W 75-72 Manhattan

12/23/80 W 51-44 Manhattan

12/19/81 W 58-49 Bloomington

12/18/82 W 48-46 Manhattan

12/21/83 W 56-53* Bloomington

12/22/84 W 70-58 Manhattan

12/10/85 W 78-71 Bloomington

11/23/98 W 71-70 Lahaina, Maui   <---- This game made young nicname super sad.


Jack scheduled games with Arkansas when Sutton got there in '74, and Arky had great teams back then, Pokes stick together.

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Re: Question for bball historians: Why did Hartman stink after 1981-82???
« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2014, 12:28:41 PM »
True story:  Jack Hartman is a native of Dewey, OK, about an hour away from Okie State, where Hartman played collegiate basketball.  Hartman always had an affinity for the Pokes.
Although at this point it probably is just nit-piking but I once worked with a fellow who said his father went to HS with Jack at I thought Shidler OK, which  is on the East side of Kaw Lake on the highway South of Dexter.  Shidler is 100-150 miles West of Dewey but is about an hour from Stillwater while it may be 1-2 hours from Dewey to Stillwater.  Again, I think, but not positive, he was recruited to OSU to play FB and his first job out of college was as an assistant to Coach Iba for the Cowboys BB team, but I cannot remember if Jack actually played basket ball in college.


This is another old geezer story: before he went to Coffey JC, where he won a National JC BB championship, in the 1950's Jack was the HS BB coach at either Plainville or Phillipsburg (one of the "P" towns North of Hays). Can anyone verify that fact and what town it was?

He was the head basketball coach and head football coach at Plainville.

After he retired he did the color analysis for radio.  my wife called him the colorless color man. He was horrible. I mean way worse than coach Z horrible.

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Re: Question for bball historians: Why did Hartman stink after 1981-82???
« Reply #79 on: January 25, 2014, 03:44:36 PM »
Thumbed through a mid 90s yearbook a few weeks ago.  The article on the women's team centered around how Hartman openly hated the women's team when he was the men's coach.
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